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SpiralRasengan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:02 pm


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Heating the air under your feet? WHY HAD I NOT THOUGHT OF THAT? Ahaha too much of magick for me to handle.

But using energy as a solid form? I'm heard of constructing psi-balls into like shapes then programming them to float off and maybe bump someone in the head but using it as a weapon? Ahaha, I wouldn't completely count on that...

Okay, I'm not sure whether you resurrected a dead subject or not, but I'll run with it. sweatdrop

Psi-weapons are completely feasible (made some myself). Psi-weapons have the ability to effectively cut a person's energy, making it hard for them to concentrate, lowering their output, and causing headaches and possible internal complications. However, making it deal physical damage is just a form of psychokinesis, so I'll leave that alone.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:43 pm


I've seen threads, and a few (short) e-books or paper or something about the energy weapon things. According to accounts, it's possible to make a mace/hammer and smash thin glass with it, or chop a wick off a candle/paper in half that's dangling with an energy sword. I think there was something about a whip, and I probably mixed something up, but again, google it.

The heating enegy under your feet thing seems unlikely to work, as I would expect it to kind of move up around you. I think any effect would be virtually unmeasurable unless it was done under some serious lab conditions with a device that was desired to jump to a certin height and blah blah blah.

Personally, for anything I would intend to use against someone else, I wouldn't go for the energy weapons if that's involved in anyones hidden agenda of knowledge to pursue, or something....

Dorian Requiem


BaNaNa_blend

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:57 pm


fluffysteel2
I'm recycling this thread for the endangered species being killed each day by internet abuse.

book's got another conflicting issue that i need an opinion on. it's like 140 something pages now, but school's starting so i have less time to write because i can't stay up in my creative hours.


first: can energy be used and solidified or compacted enough to the point someone could use it like an acctual sword/whip/knife?
and if so what effect would it have on someone physical body and soul.

second: does using the word s**t seem like a bad thing? i've kept it toned down to crap, damn, b*****d, and pissed off, so i don't really want to get to fowl mouthed.

oh and if you mastered something like pyrokinesis could you use it to super-heat oxygen below you as you jump to make you jump higher since oxygen expands when heated? and if so, how high would you get boosted?

ALSO: lots of the posts on the first page are from the other topic i had posted here. thanks guys, i'm glad you help me. smile

Any luck?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:49 pm


There really aren't any absolutely true answers I can offer you, but I might as well offer my opinion.

fluffysteel2
first: can energy be used and solidified or compacted enough to the point someone could use it like an acctual sword/whip/knife?
and if so what effect would it have on someone physical body and soul.

I don't believe so. At least, not literally in the way you're speaking of.

fluffysteel2
second: does using the word s**t seem like a bad thing? i've kept it toned down to crap, damn, b*****d, and pissed off, so i don't really want to get to fowl mouthed.

I don't have any problem with most kinds of profanity. There are words that can be personally offensive to people, but "s**t" is not one of them. Words that can be considered racist, sexist, or otherwise personally offensive are the ones I can justify people not liking. "********", "damn", "s**t', and other similar words have no logical reason to offend. At least no more so than their "lesser" alternatives. However, like most slang, it is frowned upon in a book you'd like to be listed close to "reference".

fluffysteel2
oh and if you mastered something like pyrokinesis could you use it to super-heat oxygen below you as you jump to make you jump higher since oxygen expands when heated? and if so, how high would you get boosted?

Most things expand when heated. If you don't mind doing a bit of research, look into the actual physics of launching a rocket. I mean NASA-sized, not the ones you build in your backyard.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:47 pm


I think that if you had the psychokinetic ability to heat air to that extent you'd be better off using your ability to lift yourself off the ground, rather than making it complicated.

From a physics standpoint, that air is going to expand in every direction from the point of heating. That means unless you focused it through a jet of some kind it would be a highly inefficient way to create lift. Like Dras said, look into how we launch rockets into space.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:38 pm


Obscurus
I think that if you had the psychokinetic ability to heat air to that extent you'd be better off using your ability to lift yourself off the ground, rather than making it complicated.

From a physics standpoint, that air is going to expand in every direction from the point of heating. That means unless you focused it through a jet of some kind it would be a highly inefficient way to create lift. Like Dras said, look into how we launch rockets into space.


see this is the problem i was having with the story. i have refrained from the explanation of the heat expansion because i wasn't sure which would be able to lift you higher or slow your decent more

my first plan was to compact a decent amount of air into a psi ball, then super heat it like you would regularly.

my second was to make a similar idea, except heat the air into a cylinder shape letting it escape downwards, but i assume that would take more energy.

EDIT: thought when you said physics it would be complicated, but turns out i already knew about that in school. ^_^

so what im thinking is the psi ball could be programmed as a container for the hot air and when the fizzle starts moving faster and bouncing thus expanding, it would expand the psi ball?


as for the metaphysical sword, i couldn't find anything that covered it that well, so i went out and made one and hit my brother in the stomach with it, without his knowledge because I'm weird and i don't let my family know I'm into this type of s**t.

but around forty seconds later, he complained of stomach pains and went to the bathroom to vomit.

could have been coincidence so I'll have to test it again three more times, on a person I've told, a person i haven't told, and an animal.
hopefully it'll work, otherwise ill have to do some other things.



also, anyone happen to know which lab they keep the small pox virus sample in? i doubt they let the public know that but thought I'd ask.

that's all for now.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:30 pm


fluffysteel2
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I think that if you had the psychokinetic ability to heat air to that extent you'd be better off using your ability to lift yourself off the ground, rather than making it complicated.

From a physics standpoint, that air is going to expand in every direction from the point of heating. That means unless you focused it through a jet of some kind it would be a highly inefficient way to create lift. Like Dras said, look into how we launch rockets into space.


see this is the problem i was having with the story. i have refrained from the explanation of the heat expansion because i wasn't sure which would be able to lift you higher or slow your decent more

my first plan was to compact a decent amount of air into a psi ball, then super heat it like you would regularly.

my second was to make a similar idea, except heat the air into a cylinder shape letting it escape downwards, but i assume that would take more energy.

EDIT: thought when you said physics it would be complicated, but turns out i already knew about that in school. ^_^

so what im thinking is the psi ball could be programmed as a container for the hot air and when the fizzle starts moving faster and bouncing thus expanding, it would expand the psi ball?


as for the metaphysical sword, i couldn't find anything that covered it that well, so i went out and made one and hit my brother in the stomach with it, without his knowledge because I'm weird and i don't let my family know I'm into this type of s**t.

but around forty seconds later, he complained of stomach pains and went to the bathroom to vomit.

could have been coincidence so I'll have to test it again three more times, on a person I've told, a person i haven't told, and an animal.
hopefully it'll work, otherwise ill have to do some other things.



also, anyone happen to know which lab they keep the small pox virus sample in? i doubt they let the public know that but thought I'd ask.

that's all for now.


Like I said before, I think that if you have the ability to make psi cylinders that can contain the heat and direct it downwards and all that then you would probably be better off just lifting yourself with telekinetic force. Seems less complicated.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:10 pm


fluffysteel2
as for the metaphysical sword, i couldn't find anything that covered it that well, so i went out and made one and hit my brother in the stomach with it, without his knowledge because I'm weird and i don't let my family know I'm into this type of s**t.

but around forty seconds later, he complained of stomach pains and went to the bathroom to vomit.

could have been coincidence so I'll have to test it again three more times, on a person I've told, a person i haven't told, and an animal.
hopefully it'll work, otherwise ill have to do some other things.



also, anyone happen to know which lab they keep the small pox virus sample in? i doubt they let the public know that but thought I'd ask.

that's all for now.

Yeah, I got about the same response from my "test associate" (read: Guinea Pig) back when I did it before. The difference was I did more of an overhead swing so he got a headache and lost his balance a bit.

As for the lab, it's either not containing the smallpox or it's been shut down, I think.

SpiralRasengan


DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:31 am


fluffysteel2
also, anyone happen to know which lab they keep the small pox virus sample in? i doubt they let the public know that but thought I'd ask.


Lab with smallpox? I'm pretty sure there are multiple. Many for research. Many for bioweapons. Many for bioweapons research.

May I ask why?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:18 pm


I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.

Dorian Requiem


SpiralRasengan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:03 pm


Dorian Requiem
I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.

The only problem is that it really has no effect on a normal inanimate object. Since the effect is derived from essentially splitting a person's aura/chi/whatever in half, using it on an inanimate object is like trying to swim up Niagra Falls: You can try all you want, but you won't get much in the way of results.

All the damage done is easily repairable though (for the most part), although it would take a bit of time to get back to full capacity, depending on the damage.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:34 pm


Dorian Requiem
I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.


i don't really need to know how it affects inanimate objects because it's like fifth priority right now, but i was planning on testing it out eventually.

same with the healing thing. i hadn't thought of that part because it wasn't really important at the time but i suppose the test subjects shouldn't get like perma-hurt from it. XD

on another note, I've been experimenting with the newly brought up debate over whether it's easier to use telekinetic energy to lift yourself up or just create that whole expanding psi ball thing.

so far, the expanding psi ball hypothesis isn't working as great as I'd want it to, and the telekinesis isn't working at all if I'm doing it right. i plan on doing more trials and making more errors, but i think I'll start testing out lifting up my shoes with me in them. personally, i don't even think I'll be able to lift up that much weight ever with TK, but ill try with say a fly on a piece of paper.

EDIT: oh yeah and spiral it's still going to have an effect on inanimate objects. the psi sword doesn't just like hurt your soul though it would be an interesting concept. I'm trying something more like condensing a psi ball into a flat elongated shape for some experiments. it would be something like using a psi ball to move a paper or moving a psi wheel.

for other experiments now though I'll attempt to make one of those soul cutting psi blades you described. it sounds much more bad a**, and i think it would be better due to it being less noticeable.

fluffysteel2


SpiralRasengan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:22 pm


fluffysteel2
Dorian Requiem
I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.

EDIT: oh yeah and spiral it's still going to have an effect on inanimate objects. the psi sword doesn't just like hurt your soul though it would be an interesting concept. I'm trying something more like condensing a psi ball into a flat elongated shape for some experiments. it would be something like using a psi ball to move a paper or moving a psi wheel.

for other experiments now though I'll attempt to make one of those soul cutting psi blades you described. it sounds much more bad a**, and i think it would be better due to it being less noticeable.

Plus you get to say "I will destroy your soul!" and be telling the truth! xd
(seriously though, if you do that without a good reason, I'd have to hunt you down and stop you. >.>)

So you're probably making a different thing than I did. I made one specifically to mess up people's energy, whereas you made one more to deal damage equally between physical and psychic energy.

Also, have you tried disconnecting it from your body? Like making an arrow, or a ghost sword instead of a "normal" sword?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:43 pm


SpiralRasengan
fluffysteel2
Dorian Requiem
I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.

EDIT: oh yeah and spiral it's still going to have an effect on inanimate objects. the psi sword doesn't just like hurt your soul though it would be an interesting concept. I'm trying something more like condensing a psi ball into a flat elongated shape for some experiments. it would be something like using a psi ball to move a paper or moving a psi wheel.

for other experiments now though I'll attempt to make one of those soul cutting psi blades you described. it sounds much more bad a**, and i think it would be better due to it being less noticeable.

Plus you get to say "I will destroy your soul!" and be telling the truth! xd
(seriously though, if you do that without a good reason, I'd have to hunt you down and stop you. >.>)

So you're probably making a different thing than I did. I made one specifically to mess up people's energy, whereas you made one more to deal damage equally between physical and psychic energy.

Also, have you tried disconnecting it from your body? Like making an arrow, or a ghost sword instead of a "normal" sword?

curses. you all leave me with more experiments to perform then the last time i visit the page. mad
it's cool though i have like six notebooks i won't be using for school.

on a personal note, could anyone tell me the meaning behind a dream a friend of mine had? i could PM you with the details if need be but he described it basically;
everything had a yellow tint,
he had a third eye that was yellow and black,

(oh and proving i no longer need my medication because I'm sane!)

He told me of a few events where he closed his eyes to either rest them, go to sleep, or just happened to close his eyes, and he could still see his surroundings and everything perfectly fine.

in your face Dr. sternbourge > razz

but yeah there's more details to the story that he said he wouldn't feel comfortable sharing with me at that moment becuase I'm not great with meanings behind dreams.

fluffysteel2


SpiralRasengan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:52 pm


fluffysteel2
SpiralRasengan
fluffysteel2
Dorian Requiem
I do recognize that living things are better test subjects then inanimate objects, but I would recommend having some idea of a way to fix any damage you do. Ignoring that we likely heal on our own from things like the sword through the stomach thing, it may offset our ability to gauge the results (mostly for repeat tests on a given subject). Alternatively, if the subject has had a previous incident from an alternative source, it may be good to try to heal them anyways for similar reasons, I'd recommend before and after.

Though, that's since it seems we're already doing something (likely considered negative) to an unknowing subject already. Still, if you can effect inanimate objects, that's a good sign, so try testing something like that once and a while.

EDIT: oh yeah and spiral it's still going to have an effect on inanimate objects. the psi sword doesn't just like hurt your soul though it would be an interesting concept. I'm trying something more like condensing a psi ball into a flat elongated shape for some experiments. it would be something like using a psi ball to move a paper or moving a psi wheel.

for other experiments now though I'll attempt to make one of those soul cutting psi blades you described. it sounds much more bad a**, and i think it would be better due to it being less noticeable.

Plus you get to say "I will destroy your soul!" and be telling the truth! xd
(seriously though, if you do that without a good reason, I'd have to hunt you down and stop you. >.>)

So you're probably making a different thing than I did. I made one specifically to mess up people's energy, whereas you made one more to deal damage equally between physical and psychic energy.

Also, have you tried disconnecting it from your body? Like making an arrow, or a ghost sword instead of a "normal" sword?

curses. you all leave me with more experiments to perform then the last time i visit the page. mad
it's cool though i have like six notebooks i won't be using for school.

on a personal note, could anyone tell me the meaning behind a dream a friend of mine had? i could PM you with the details if need be but he described it basically;
everything had a yellow tint,
he had a third eye that was yellow and black,

(oh and proving i no longer need my medication because I'm sane!)

He told me of a few events where he closed his eyes to either rest them, go to sleep, or just happened to close his eyes, and he could still see his surroundings and everything perfectly fine.

in your face Dr. sternbourge > razz

but yeah there's more details to the story that he said he wouldn't feel comfortable sharing with me at that moment becuase I'm not great with meanings behind dreams.

Wait a sec... I've done that before...
I think I'd like to take a look at some info from that dream. neutral

And you can never have too many experiments to preform! FOR SCIENCE! xd
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