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Is TF2...on sale by itself? I learned my battlechest is too much now.

I know Portal is on sale by itself too.
Both TF2 and Portal are on sale on their own, at $20 each.

So if you want both, DEFINITELY get the Orange Box. Even if you never play Half-Life, you'll still have payed the same. Personally, when I seem to be running out of things to play, I'm going to mod Half-Life to use the Portal gun.