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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:18 am
Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. Empress_Kat Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi I think I might put Vernon in Hufflepuff. Like I said before, I think Hufflepuff's are very group oriented (that's where the loyalty part comes in). Vernon obviously thinks of himself as being part of a "normal people" group, and is threatened by anything that goes against his idea of that group. Also, he seems to value hard work, though he doesn't expect it from Dudley. You don't know how much I disagree with this. Yes, he thinks of himself as the "normal group" but Hufflepuff's don't mind other groups. Vernon hates wizards, he hates people different from him. Therefore he won't work in Hufflepuff. Plus, he doesn't even give other groups the benfit of the doubt, which Hufflepuffs do.
I dissagree. Quite often, Hufflepuffs aren't all nice and fluffy. Second year, they practically gang up on Harry. They tend to support the 'good' side, but they are definitely not always accepting of whichever side they don't flock too. I think Vernon would fit in Hufflepuff, not perfectly, but no one ever fits perfectly, anyway. Either that, or Gryffindor. We know he's very brave. Not intelligent, but that's not a requirement for Gryffindor, really. A giant breaks down the door to his hut-on-a-rock and instead of running and hiding, or giving in, he stood up for himself. Stupid but brave = Gryffindor. The only reason they were mean to him that year was because they thought he was attacking people. He entire school thought so. And when they weren't too nice to him in his 4th year was because he took the glory away from them. I've been re-reading all the books. Each time the Hufflepuffs were mean to Harry was because they had a reason to. Vernon hates wizards, I mean straight out hates them. No matter what they did to help him he would hate them. If you'll remember right after Hermoine got attack the hufflepuffs were really sorry for thinking it was him, knowing he would never attack her. They went right back to being Harry's friend. Vernon wouldn't do that. Even if a wizard saved his, and his wifes.Just because most Hufflepuffs are okay with other groups doesn't mean the worst Hufflepuffs might not be. In one of its most negative forms, loyalty to a group can mean hatred of other groups. I don't think most Hufflepuffs have that negative aspect, but some might. And to expand on my reasons for Vernon being a Hufflepuff, he obviously cares that other people who he considers "normal" accept him as being normal as well. He doesn't want to deviate from the group. Perhaps Vernon doesn't exhibit all the traits of a Hufflepuff, particularly fairness. However, like Empress Kat said, no one (or at least most people) don't fit perfectly into any House. I mean, would you say Crabbe and Goyle are cunning? Yes, but they would do anything to achive what they want. We know that cus' they even made themselves look like girls. I don't think Malfoy told them what the end was but they did it all the same. Anyways. On to Vernon. Yea, so there has to be some hufflepuffs like that. But Hufflepuff isn't the only place that's going to have loyal people, is it? LIke it said in the book most people from Slytherin turn of the be or help the dark wizards. Bellatrix is, I think, from slytherin and she's very loyal to Voldemort. She had to deal with all those dementers . s**t, I have to go. I'll finish when I can get on again. My point about Crabbe and Goyle is that they don't have every Slytherin trait, so just because someone doesn't have every trait associated with a House doesn't mean they can't be in that House. Loyalty is a main characteristic of Hufflepuff, but that doesn't mean that people of other Houses can't exhibit it (After all, Cedric was brave, Percy's ambitious, and Hermione's smart). And just because they can doesn't mean that we shouldn't use loyalty to put someone into Hufflepuff. Obviously there's always the possibility that someone might have been or would be in a House you wouldn't expect (If we didn't know Hermione's House, we'd probably put her in Ravenclaw, for example), but because we don't know what House they were/would be in for sure, the only real way to categorize them is by the main traits associated with the House. To use the fact that people of other Houses have a trait as an argument for why someone shouldn't be in a House associated with that trait completely defeats our method of putting people into a House in the first place. Also, as an aside, I want to reiterate that Vernon also seems to value hard-work, which is another Hufflepuff trait.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:00 am
No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:24 am
Homigwtf. Poppet. No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T If you weren't done, then why did you post? You could have just saved what you wrote in a file or e-mail or something.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:23 pm
KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T If you weren't done, then why did you post? You could have just saved what you wrote in a file or e-mail or something. For one, I was on a school computer. Two, my a** was about to be grass cus' a teacher saw me on this site. The computers are for "school use only". Three, I'm not gonna type all that and not post it. D: By the time I got home I would forget everything that I typed. Does that answer you questions?
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:28 am
Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T If you weren't done, then why did you post? You could have just saved what you wrote in a file or e-mail or something. For one, I was on a school computer. Two, my a** was about to be grass cus' a teacher saw me on this site. The computers are for "school use only". Three, I'm not gonna type all that and not post it. D: By the time I got home I would forget everything that I typed. Does that answer you questions?Only kinda. Like I said, you could have saved everything in an e-mail or something (like copy it to the clipboard and go to a more appropriate site until the teacher's gone, then go to some type of e-mail or something and paste and send to yourself). But whatever, you didn't say to not respond to it, so yeah, I responded to it. Edit: I want to apologize for going off-topic.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:40 pm
KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T If you weren't done, then why did you post? You could have just saved what you wrote in a file or e-mail or something. For one, I was on a school computer. Two, my a** was about to be grass cus' a teacher saw me on this site. The computers are for "school use only". Three, I'm not gonna type all that and not post it. D: By the time I got home I would forget everything that I typed. Does that answer you questions?Only kinda. Like I said, you could have saved everything in an e-mail or something (like copy it to the clipboard and go to a more appropriate site until the teacher's gone, then go to some type of e-mail or something and paste and send to yourself). But whatever, you didn't say to not respond to it, so yeah, I responded to it. Edit: I want to apologize for going off-topic. No, my dear, I couldn't. As I said before, I didn't have time. I was about to get in trouble and I can't save anything on a school computer!
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:14 pm
Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. KirikoAkushi Homigwtf. Poppet. No! Don't comment on it yet! I wasn't done writing it! gonk I didn't even have my red font on it. T-T If you weren't done, then why did you post? You could have just saved what you wrote in a file or e-mail or something. For one, I was on a school computer. Two, my a** was about to be grass cus' a teacher saw me on this site. The computers are for "school use only". Three, I'm not gonna type all that and not post it. D: By the time I got home I would forget everything that I typed. Does that answer you questions?Only kinda. Like I said, you could have saved everything in an e-mail or something (like copy it to the clipboard and go to a more appropriate site until the teacher's gone, then go to some type of e-mail or something and paste and send to yourself). But whatever, you didn't say to not respond to it, so yeah, I responded to it. Edit: I want to apologize for going off-topic. No, my dear, I couldn't. As I said before, I didn't have time. I was about to get in trouble and I can't save anything on a school computer!Well, for future reference, you can e-mail yourself on Gaia, so that would have taken like two seconds, but whatever. Like I said, if you're going to post, people are going to respond. It's not like you said not to. By the way, you never finished what you were going to say in the post, anyway... And again, I apologize for being off topic.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:42 pm
Well, now I forgot! It's been awhile snice I posted that. Effin' momery. -emotears-
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:55 pm
I've always wondered about Madame Hooch, the Quidditch lady, and Madame Pomfrey.
I would place Madame Hooch in Ravenclaw. She's too nice to be a Slytherin, and too athletic to be a Hufflepuff (not that I have anything against Hufflepuff--it's just that I don't picture Hufflepuffians as being very buff and athletic). I see Gryfindors as being much more studious, and doing stuff like being Aurors, as opposed to Quidditch teachers.
Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense, I have a very jumbled mind...
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:59 pm
Insomniac090 I've always wondered about Madame Hooch, the Quidditch lady, and Madame Pomfrey. I would place Madame Hooch in Ravenclaw. She's too nice to be a Slytherin, and too athletic to be a Hufflepuff (not that I have anything against Hufflepuff--it's just that I don't picture Hufflepuffians as being very buff and athletic). I see Gryfindors as being much more studious, and doing stuff like being Aurors, as opposed to Quidditch teachers. Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense, I have a very jumbled mind... I'll remember you of Cedric. He was very athletic, and a very good Hufflepuff student.
I think she was in Gryffindor. I don't know why, she just seems like a gryffindor to him. Maybe because the way the treat Neville.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:43 pm
Madam Hooch always struck me as a Hufflepuff, but that might have just been because of the H in her name, lol. I don't suppose we know enough about her or Pomfrey to really put either of them into a House though. I wouldn't be surprised if Madam Pince was a Ravenclaw though, with her love of books.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:36 pm
I'd put Pomfrey in Hufflepuff, definitely. Nothing else makes sense to me. Except, I did once read a good fic where she was Slytherin...
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:06 pm
hmm how about Moody? Not sure if they ever mentioned what house he was in, but I'd say for me its between Slytherin and Gryfindor....He's very brave, as he'd have to be as an auror, but he has the cunning of a Slytherin. Any other thoughts on that?
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