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Saddleseat, The BIG LICK

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Do you like the BIG LICK!??
No, I do NOT
71%
 71%  [ 5 ]
Yes, its BEAUTIFUL and AWESOME!
28%
 28%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 7


WolvenYoukai

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:20 pm


I want to talk about a style of riding...
Well, saddleseat, but not exactly.

I've only just learned what the name of it actually was called. But I've still known of how it's ridden..
I'm fine with the normal riding of saddleseat, but when it comes to the new 'craze' its just dissapointing...
The BIG LICK, is what people are shooting for!!!

Well not me, I hate that disgusting look
It's deformed, its gross, it looks so unnormal and unnatural.
It's looks so very strainful, and it doesn't seem the horses like it
And those shoooooes!
THEY ARE AWFUL!

Here are some pictures of 'the big lick'

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But you must realize, pictures don't show the true hideousness...
Watch these videos, and see the true horror...
Saddleseat BIG LICK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWM-VCCS09g&feature=related THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO TO SHOW HOW TERRIBLE IT IS >.<
As well as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyxVSoqd18&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObdQ20cOFw&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D5BHup2GBE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q2g2j_tkPs&feature=related

And now compare it to REAL Saddleseat Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deN7-SoRIJI&feature=related

Now some sites on this
Written oppinions on big lick
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g161/defrostindoors/image21411.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bridlepath.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/bridlepath-hall-of-shame-the-big-lick-twh-industry/&h=258&w=353&sz=24&hl=en&start=29&um=1&tbnid=5J640Bjpi1zO-M:&tbnh=88&tbnw=121&prev=/images?q=Big+Lick+Saddleseat&start=18&ndsp=18&um=1&hl=en&sa=N

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.chron.com/hoofbeats/archives/pads.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.chron.com/hoofbeats/archives/walking_horse_stuff/&h=300&w=178&sz=52&hl=en&start=47&um=1&tbnid=gsH7dzlcN9N2OM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=69&prev=/images?q=Big+Lick+Saddleseat&start=36&ndsp=18&um=1&hl=en&sa=N

Now, what do YOU think about the BIG LICK!!!!!??
PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:41 pm


Personally, I'm not a fan of the big lick or of walkers in general- yes they can be comfortable trail mounts but I leave it at that. Give me a sturdy pony any day.
I did ribbons for the Eastern Classic a couple years ago at Quentin. While soaring (using chains or chemicals) is illegal and cruel, there are humane way so creating that artificial reach. The walkers are bred to move like that- albeit with less "drama". A good rule of thumb to see if a horse as been 'enhanced' is to draw a line out straight from underneath his chest, typically in normal movement, their knees do not go past that line.

I'm not a huge saddleseat fan to begin with, but I understand it more now that I'm at a barn that actually rides it.

Oh, and the Big Lick is not new by any means unless you mean in the last two centuries relative to the entire history of mankind. The big lick has been around pretty much as long as the breed has if not before. Having flouncy horses was a big deal for plantation owners and such. The breed and class history is actually pretty interesting.

GreenePony


Nilou

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:26 am


I used to ride Big Lick horses- some of them DO like their jobs! I actually brought this topic up on this very forum a year ago...maybe more, maybe less. smile (Topic)

As always rep'ing the Arabs:

Pure Bred Arabs- ENGLISH PLEASURE

1/2 Arab Regionals

And some Morgans for balance:

Morgans in Conn.

And just so you can see how they naturaly move:

Morgan Halter/Conformation Presentation

Arabian Most Classic Class
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:00 am


I think it looks pretty silly, and not at all horselike in my opinion.

GogglesMandatory


AriaStarSong

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:44 am


Nilou - you'll have to forgive my ignorance in the English Pleasure and saddleseat world, but is that actually considered "Big Lick"? I have a friend who is studying to be a very who used to show arabs in english pleasure, she knows her stuff and wouldn't have done anything that would have caused permanent damage to them. Although the high action of the front legs is still not "natural", the horses do seem to be enjoying their jobs and the movement is free and fluid, unlike a lot of the "Big Lick" TWH with the extremely exaggerated action in the front end and the painful, staggering gait behind. But that's just what I've observed from videos and such. I've never really been involved in this world in the least.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:08 am


While Arabs do have the front end motion (which can be quit dramatic with out artificial aids) only walkers have the "Big Lick"

Arabs have the own set of peculiarities (I ride at a big well known arab barn)

GreenePony


Nilou

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:35 am


Even though Arabs & Morgans don't have what is considered to be a "Big Lick" I brought them up b/c people feel sorry for the Walkers who go thru the training to get the Big Lick but they don't know anything about what goes on in the other breeds.

It's true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but there are things going on behind the scenes of EVERY discipline.

I have been in the horse industry longer than 1/2 the people on this BB have been alive. lol I am 3rd generation horse breeder/trainer/trader. I have seen alot in my day.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:23 pm


I don't see how ANYONE can find that attractive in any way. It does not look natural/ its not natural. I've seen a full TWH in a feild and she was not walking like that. I know the little head bob thing is natural. But those videos look like they're walking on their hindquarters and kicking their front legs. I don't see how anyone would do that on purpose with no training.

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