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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:45 am


I haven't figured out how to move posts to new threads, but it's looking like this may be a great candidate for its own Health Care thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:13 pm


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I haven't figured out how to move posts to new threads, but it's looking like this may be a great candidate for its own Health Care thread.

There's a little arrow in the bottom left of the screen for mods that can move threads around. I had way too much fun messing around with all the new buttons when Kia promoted me. blaugh


To Chi: Welcome! I actually have thought about optometry before, but I don't know much about it. Would I have to do lots of eye surgery?

Neuf: It's high paying in part because you have to go insanely into debt to get there and spend such a huge chunk of your life in miserable residency. xp

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:39 pm


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To Chi: Welcome! I actually have thought about optometry before, but I don't know much about it. Would I have to do lots of eye surgery?
There is a common confusion among people about what an optometrist does as opposed to an optician and an opthamologist:

Optician: Sells glasses, fits frames, some can make lenses themselves. This is sort of the sales side of eyeglasses. Some states require a liscensed professional (2 yr degree), while others do not.

Optometrist: Gives general eye exam, treats ocular disease with eyedrops and (in most states) oral medications, checks the health of the eye, can specialize for certain ocular dysfunctions. This is really like the general practitioner of the eyes, and like GPs they can specialize in certain types of people (pediatrics, glaucoma specialists, vision therapy, etc.). This is a 4 year degree with an optional but reccommended 1 yr residency, and you do become a certified Dr. afterward (O.D., D.O. is a doc of osteopathic medicine). The first two years are just like med school. In fact, half of my profs teach at NYU most days. The second two years are spent with hands on work in the clinic, or offsite at nearby satillite clinics.

Opthamologist : Surgeon specialized for the eyes. Removes cataracts, performs LASIK and other vision correction, fixes other ocular issues that require microsurgery. Opthamologists can also give eye exams, but most of them like surgery and are more skilled at it, so they hire an optometrist to do consultation work under them. Opthamology requires 4 yrs medical school and a 4 year residency, and you go to a normal med school. It is just like becoming a surgeon, but in the last year or so, you specialize. At least, that is my understanding. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

One of the downsides to optometry is that there are only 16 schools in the country. The one in Missouri is in St. Louis, and most of the schools are in big cities (Boston, NYC, Chicago, Houston, etc.). The plus side is that it is a very rewarding field with one of the highest job satisfaction ratings, the competition is still high but not as ridiculous, and most of the schools have small class sizes so you really get close to your collegues. You can become an optometrist and also have a life too, which is something that sometimes cannot be said about some medical professions. It all just depends on what you want out of a career.

...plus, on a Jewish sidenote, the chances of you encountering a dead Jewish body while being an eye doctor are very, very slim, so you can easily become an eye doctor as a Kohen without any halakhic issues. In fact, my prof for optics is a Kohen and that was one of the reasons he went into optometry. smile

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You're still in high school, right? My suggestion is to start a major in biology once you get into college, although biochem will work for an undergrad degree. If your school has a pre-med tract, that would be good too. Talk to your advisor about your options for med school and otherwise, and realize that you really don't need to make a decision about it until your junior year of undergrad. Until then, all of the bio classes you took already count toward any med school, so there is no need to freak out. I would also suggest looking into observing some people when you are in college if you can.

I'm so long winded. I was supposed to go a half-hour ago...
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:57 pm


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And Res, I get that whole business with my family. They roll their eyes every time I tell them I don't want ham on my sandwich...or anywhere near my food. biggrin

YES! Or they'll think it's HILARIOUS when they say they got me a sub for lunch and made a point of putting ham and swiss on it, then get all upset when I tell them nooooope, will not eat!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:36 am


It's easier to deal with the 'friends' and relatives who think it's cute to give you stuff they know you can't eat. You can just tell yourself, "Well, they're being jerks because this is new to them. They were like this when I first got this haircut, too. We always tease each other."

What's hard is when you have to look into the eyes of the grandfather who went fishing and caught the catfish, cleaned it, brought it home, cooked it just the way you used to love it, arranged it so nicely with the side veggies, and then can't understand why you can't accept this offering of love. That's the hard part about keeping kosher when your family or friends don't live the same way you do.

Please, anyone who's considering conversion, or considering becoming ba'al t'shuvah: Don't make a hasty vow that you'll regret later. Think about what you're giving up, and no, I don't just mean the food, but the social and familial connections that may not get made again.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:19 pm


I have been thinking about connections with my family after I convert recently.
See, I have a friend whose older sister wanted to convert. When her family found out, there were arguments and a lot of hurt feelings, especially on the sister's part. I felt badly for her; this is what she wanted, and they were basically telling her that her happiness did not matter if it meant being Jewish. I think the way her family took it was the beginning of giving up on it.

As for me, most of you know my family is southern...and baptist. I really don't think my parents have a problem with it, because we've talked about it. Of course, when I do actually make that step and start the process, they might change their mind. (I doubt this though.) The real problem lies with my grandparents on both sides. My dad's mom is from central Arkansas where prejudice of all people who aren't WASPs is still pretty prominent. My mom's parents are from Missouri, (not very southern) but despite being Zionists probably wouldn't take well to having a Jew in the family. Not to mention the whole slew that will come with my marriage. xp

I love my family, and I would never want to hurt them, but I feel this is something I was meant to do: ham and all. We all make tough decisions, and I think eventually they'll all come around and remember I'm still the same person, I just practice a religion and spirituality that makes me feel happier and more fulfilled than I've ever felt in my brief life.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 pm


Well kingpin, only one thing to do...

Tell your parents your intentions.

The sooner they hear the news, the sooner they will get over it.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:09 pm


My parents will be fine, I can tell. They want me to be happy, but I know a lot of people who think I don't know what happy is, I'm too young to make a decision like this, etc. Eh, whatever.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:27 am


I dont know about you guys but i live in the south and im the only jewish person in my grade and i dont know ANY Jewish kids my age emo
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:28 am


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I dont know about you guys but i live in the south and im the only jewish person in my grade and i dont know ANY Jewish kids my age emo

Heh- I'm similar; there's very few Jewish people where I live. Hopefully nobody where you live is Anti-Semitic, though!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:08 pm


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Awesome Uchiha Sasuke
I dont know about you guys but i live in the south and im the only jewish person in my grade and i dont know ANY Jewish kids my age emo

Heh- I'm similar; there's very few Jewish people where I live. Hopefully nobody where you live is Anti-Semitic, though!

except it sorta is plus it doesnt help having a locker #666 in 6th grade and being the only jewish girl
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