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 Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:06 pm
I've been doing a lot of research, and in that time I've come across a few articles on nude beaches, which lead me to the lifestyle of nudism. According to my research, it's purpose is to live a lifestyle in harmony with nature, expressed through social nudity, and characterized by self-respect of people with different opinions and of the environment. In addition to the freeing aspects of going sans clothing, there are also some health benefits(such as getting more sun across the whole of the skin and giving it more of the nutrients it needs). But of course, there's also the taboos associated with this low clothed way of life, some of those being the typical line of thought that a nude boy and girl will soon get it on, it will lead into more devious things, and the fact that some people weren't meant to be seen naked, among other things.
My question to you all, is what do you think of Naturalism, and would you ever go full blast and rip off all your coverings?
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:58 pm
Eh, that idea amuses me in a way that people under delusions tend to do.
..Not that I'm against naked women, but that's not the point. The point is, I disagree with Naturalism.
Naturalism's purpose is to 'live a lifestyle in harmony with nature'. What it doesn't seem to take into account is evolution and the fact that human beings are unique (And sorry to those who don't believe in evolution, but...Wait, what am I saying? If you don't believe in evolution you need to brush up on your sciences! scream ): plants, mammals and virtually every living orgasm that isn't human is forced to adapt to their environment. Is there a drought? Then the wildlife that live in that ecosystem need to adapt in some way, shape, or form- or die trying. Ice age? They need to adapt, or die; in limited cases they can do what humans can, but not with our ingenuity or scale.
Humans are unique in how we rarely, if ever, need to adapt: instead of us changing, we change our environment. Is there a drought? We drill a deeper well for underground water, or we capture moisture in the air, or we conserve water, or we dig some irrigation shenanigans to bring distant water to our land. Or we import it from far away.
Ice age? We wear clothes! Imagine that!
As for the health benefits of going nude, I agree completely that walking nude in the sun helps our body synthesize Vitamin D. Unfortunately, our bodies only need about 10 - 15 minutes in the sun twice at least two times a week with Vitamin D supplements- and that's on our arms, hands, shoulders, face, OR back without sunscreen- but you really should do that whether or not your a nudist. However, the health detriments include moles (Which can lead to cancer), skin cancer (Which can lead to more cancer), sunburn (Which can lead to peeling, moles, and then skin cancer), and that overtanned, wrinkled look when you get older- think that old woman in 'There's Something About Mary' (Which may not lead to cancer, but you won't be a very eligible bachelor/ette). Being a nudist would also be very difficult (But funny to watch) in places that get cold. Like anywhere that isn't near the equator. The smart thing to do would be to put on sun screen; but that'd be as natural (And as smart) as wearing clothes, which- to me, anyways- reveals just how intelligent Naturalism is.
Look, I'm sorry that I'm so caustic when it comes to things like this. I hate to seem so heartless and inconsiderate, so i'll give you a challenge: most of us are currently in wintry conditions, right? Go nude for a day. I'm dead serious; and I don't just mean 'walk around the house nude'. Uh-uh; go nude outside in the 40* (At best) weather and see how fast you dive for warm, soft clothing. Take that '10 - 15 minute walk' as natural as you can be and you'll probably find out the hard way why most people wear clothing- because it's an intelligent thing to do.
So, to answer your question (At least, speaking for myself), I think Naturalism is retarded. And the only way I would ever go full blast and take off my clothes is when I bathe and when I'm getting intimate with an attractive femme.
Oh, and if I haven't irked anyone with this post? I think that butch lesbians are funny as all hell. XD Yeah, I'm feeling really wicked tonight.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:02 am
I think I'm going to have to take the opposing opinion to my esteemed guild-mate above. I think that naturalism, while in safe and appropriate places, can do wonders for you.
In fact naturalism isn't just restricted to sunbathing or beaches. We Wiccans do most of our ceremonies "skyclad" which means naked and nude, as they are separate things. And as a nature based religion it does help us feel closed with the earth.
Now like I said above it must be reserved for the right times and places. I in no way support people who think it's their right to force nudism upon others, in the form of flashers. The unfortunate truth is that the predominant way of thought in almost all countries is that clothes are a necessity and bare flesh, in certain places, is shameful. While I don't agree, actually I think that entire way of thought is nothing more than sexually stifling and the result of a religion that a disagree with on MANY key points, I also don't think that they are lacking the right to think that way.
But I digress, clothes are a necessity only when the situation demands it. Icy conditions, swampy areas, hiking, formal situations, and harardous areas just to name a few. But if you are in a forest away from the rest of humanity on a mild summer night, or on a beach with many other like minded individuals, well... it's just silly to hold on to your clothing.
(And I refuse to touch your butch lesbian comment.)
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:38 am
I don't feel anything in regard to that. I think being nude is not very practial, but it does convey a sense of freedom. I honestly feel my best when I'm just walking around naked in my room. I feel real nice and stuff. but I don't think being naked all the time is very smart. It's just that our environment doesn't really encourage it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:04 pm
I think of it positive to some extent. Reason being, those uncomfortable with it will undeniably not do it, whereas those who are comfortable with it, would gladly go at it. I'd gladly go all out naked on the street and expose my oh~so sexy that I worked hard for. I didn't get in shape by doing nothing all day and eating all that I could stuff my face with, so I am proud of my health and body. Now, seeing as how this seems completely shallow and egotistical, it's just the same reasoning as anything else you spend a lot of time on and you like to show off; models, supped up cars, equipment you get for raiding on [insert popular MMO here], gardens, knitted outfits and apparels...etc.
Naturalism is of course, to be au naturel, but there is usually, for people who you'd ask if they'd go full out, a sense of self conscience that comes into play. If I'd be the person I was before I was doing hockey, I prolly wouldn't even dare go even in my boxers. My friends wouldn't either. The point is, asking people if they'd go all out will result in a different reasoning in the answers than just in relation to naturalism. Naturalism in itself would be to live that way, and the aspect of self conscience would fade out and you wouldn't really care of what you'd look like in your birthday suit.
Beside, as Lord Vyce said, being nude in our world would not be very practical in itself; think about it, we evolved relying on tools and clothing to keep up one step ahead of the other living creatures. Ditching these things would subjugate us to the environment too harshly. We dont have fur against the cold (most of us anyways, yes I'm looking at you Austin Powers, you hairy beast you!), or increased concentration of melanine in our body to block of sufficient amount of UV rays for a full day's exposure, neither do we have traits that will make us more appreciative mates for the other sex without clothing (no antlers or colored feathers), nor can our skin block harsh dust from high winds (it hurts after a while, trust me).
I prolly was too vague and treaded away from the question in inquiry, sorry sweatdrop .
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:11 pm
Nude... Or clothed... The practicality of being nude comes to mind in the forms of living somewhere that doesnt get too cold or too hot; With me having natural red hair, being a nudist would be very difficult due to the overall chances I have of NOT getting sunburned (Lets just say that I burn in the shade.)
Now true, I would love to be a nudist. Im not ashamed of how I was made, and I would love to just flat out express that im having fun. But on the other side, Cloth's represent Genre's... Perhaps if we dident have such different clothing, we would be more alike? It wouldnt really matter, because people will try to be different, and hated for it. It's so strange about human nature. They want to be different from the "Ordinary", but they reject people who have become "Different"...
*cough* But back onto the main point, I currently stand in the middle. I will wear my boxers in nature, and be damn proud of it. Might even be wearing a cute lil pair of black silky ones with little pink hearts, or maybe I will just wear a white towel with nothing underneath it...
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:15 am
SeroRamai Might even be wearing a cute lil pair of black silky ones with little pink hearts, or maybe I will just wear a white towel with nothing underneath it... kjbUT Dvkbyhjiy;c5evkrbtoi gc Oh, excuse me. I think I vomited in my mouth a l'il. sweatdrop No offense or anything, I'm sure many people who are attracted to other guys with their junk about to fly free would enjoy watching that- but then again, some of us infinitely prefer the female figure. =x It isn't that being nude doesn't feel good when you take your clothes off and move around a bit; that's mostly due to the five-or-so pounds of clothing no longer being there and cool air blowing on things that normally don't have cool air blowing on them. I didn't mention it in my first scathing post, but I'll concede that point in my second scathing post: yes, being nude feels better, if only initially. I wouldn't know from experience, but I'd assume that nudists in constantly-warm weather would be as comfortable as we are with clothes, if only because their climate would rarely change. However, what I'm looking for are the actual health benefits that were mentioned at the beginning of the thread. Wiccans going 'skyclad' are in the clear because it's a part of religion. Which means, according to the wise and intuitive knowledge of ~zzang~ (Which clashes with my wise and intuitive knowledge about as often as Koiyuki's wise and intuitive knowledge), that most Wiccan ceremonies are done sans clothing. 'Kay, so along with certain religious purposes, bathing, and sexing, being nude is much more practical then being clothed. Gotcha. All those bases are covered. But I'm going to disagree a bit more then that, this evening. =D The only appropriate and safe places for Naturalism (At least, in the United States..) is in the privacy of your home or religious group that supports nudism. The only health benefits beyond the cool breeze and the five lbs. of weight off your body are more surface area of sunlight to your skin- and your body needs only so much of that before it turns into sunburn and, eventually, that icky thing we call skin cancer. The wise and intuitive knowledge of Skire suggests that an unwillingness to walk around nude depends on the self-conscious of the person- that someone who's fugly would be a bit less keen on nudism then someone who's the hottest thing since toasted bread- and, to an extent, he's right. He's also correct in the detriments of going nude all the time- I didn't think of high winds, although when I think about it I think I can appreciate the female form without clothing. ;D I dunno'. It isn't that I'm adamantly against nudism and naturalism, somuch as I'm scratching my head wondering why someone would actually try and say that wearing clothes on a regular basis is a bad idea. The benefits are, once more, the cool breeze and the feeling of freedom. The detriments are a lack of defense against the elements, too much exposure to sunlight, the social stigma against social nudism, showing off junk that some people don't want to see, and- worst of all- the very distinct lack of pockets. Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:34 pm
BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:02 pm
Skire BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils. ... xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd xd 'Nuff said. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:04 pm
I'm not comfortable enough with my own body to walk around naked in public, but bravo to those who are. I do like to lay around my own house with no clothes, however.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:14 am
Skire BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils. Who says you can't carry a man purse?
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:46 pm
~zzang~ Skire BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils. Who says you can't carry a man purse? ..Uh..People who aren't attracted to feminine men..? And/or people who want to see him speak with his nostrils..? stare blaugh heart
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:39 pm
BIood Moon ~zzang~ Skire BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils. Who says you can't carry a man purse? ..Uh..People who aren't attracted to feminine men..? And/or people who want to see him speak with his nostrils..? stare blaugh heart Ever seen the movie "Eurotrip"? One of the characters has a theft-protection bag attached to his back/chest/side. =P Besides; I would never go to popular nudist spots. Why? Men go there. Alot of men. I would prefer to go to some scenic spot where nobody goes... lol.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:30 pm
For every pragmatic reason out there, I have to agree with BIood Moon.
However, I personally prefer the nude. On hot days I walk around naked (that was when I used to live in the woods, nowadays it's townsville) I love working in the garden naked, and just laying out in the sun to tan. Summer time is the ideal nude temperature, but I still sleep nude during the winter (in my heated house, of course) and walk around naked in my house all the time. I hate the restrictions of clothing, especially underwear.
But all of that is for comfort reasons. Look at tribes in Africa and in the Amazon region. There's a lot of nudity there, but that's because they're equitorially located, so the less clothing, the better.
I'm a very shallow person, I'm not going to lie. If I've no emotional or physical attachment to some one (aka, strangers on the beach) I don't want to see people naked. I don't mind the female body so much, but I find the male genitalia just plain awkard.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:54 am
Skire BIood Moon Seriously, enjoy carrying your wallet around everywhere you go when you're in da nude. I'll be waiting for when you eventually need to put it down.. twisted I'll carry my wallet in my MOUTH! ...and err...speak with my nostrils. *rip*
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