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 Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:34 pm
This series keeps on getting better and better, doesn't it?
Being the lazy man that I am, I couldn't be bothered to write a long review, but to put in to a few easy words my thoughts on the episode: THAT WAS THE BEST EPISODE EVER! It's well written, gives Rhys something to do, actually succeeds in trying to be sort of disturbing (well, so was Combat, right at the end when Owen smiled), gives the characters some decent, believable development for a change...I could go on.
If Treganna's next episode, Adam (which I'm just about to watch) lives up to this, then she will officially become this show's equivalent to Robert Holmes.
Well, In my eyes, anyway.
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:04 pm
Richard_Swift ogs-chan I'm kinda annoyed they made Owen say "I'm so sorry", that seemed like it was some kind of Doctor Who reference but it was completely unnecessary! I'm not sure it was meant as a reference, but I'm sure every one of us watching was thinking that. Comes to something when people can't appologise without setting off the intertextual alarm bells.
Yeah, the first thing that jumped to my mind (other than 'holy crap, Rhys got shot') was 'that sounds like the Doctor talking'. I mean, it could have just been put in there because it fit, or something.. but it's a bit too close for comfort.
Jack's "What have they done to you" was almost strange to hear from him. Of course, he's seen SO many deaths, and it's this helpless creature crying out.. I seriously thought that Jack had some kind of strange flashback moment (about what/who, I have no clue) when he looked into the creature's eye.
Richard_Swift ogs-chan I'm a bit worried about next/this week (Adam). It could be really good or really bad, but we'll see! Very optimistic here, since it sounds a fun concept and it's got the only writer on the staff I trust at the keyboard.
It looks like it's going to be a pretty good episode, and I have to say now that I think about it, I particularly like Treganna's episodes a *lot*.
Richard_Swift Here's a fun thing - now the accursed Chibnall has been made showrunner for Law and Order: London, then he's very unlikely to still be the showrunner of Torchwood if it gets a third season. That probably means Helen Raynor will get the gig, but wouldn't it be fantastic if Treganna did?
o.O
Law and Order: London..? I'll have to look that up; my mom's a fan of the US versions. ^^
For the most part I can't stand Chibnall's Torchwood episodes...(although for Doctor Who, 42 was pretty well done.) .. Helen Raynor is okay, but I agree that it would be great if Treganna became showrunner. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:12 am
Richard_Swift I rewatched the Master trilogy again last night (The second best one, not Keeper of Trakken, Logopolis and Castrovalva) and what the Doctor should have done is put a little holographic version of himself in Jack's wrist-thingy when he was fixing it. One that could have popped up whenever Jack was about to do something horrid and given him a stern look and a "Oh no you don't..." That's why everyone likes Jack in Doctor Who and feels a bit ill watching him in Torchwood. Because he gets the stern looks and a "Oh no you don't..."s in Doctor Who. It'd be great!
Or, the ever popular 'Stop it!'. It always sounds like he's scolding a puppy or something, never gets old!
Personally I liked this episode. FINALLY WE HAVE AN ALIEN THAT ISN'T trying to destroy/inslave the human race! The CGI on it was a bit weird, though, but it was cute. I took it upon myself to name the alien Wallace. <3
But that was the episode I was looking for, an alien that wasn't a threat and for once they're trying to save it from the humans.
The Jack/Gwen made me completely pissed, though. He's Captain Jack Harkness, intergallactic slut boi! He should NOT be fabling for Gwen! Fling, possibly, because that's his style, some off-handed flirting probably, but 'OhmygoodnessGwenCooperIabsolutelyloveyouandwatchhowangstyIam!' = no. stare
I hope that Rhys gets Retcon'd, no domestics in Torchwood, please. But the 'This is quite homo-erotic' line was fabulous, I thought. xd As well as the quip about eating alien meat wink
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:04 pm
I'm ambivalent towards this episode. Like Fantome de la Opera said, it was good to see aliens who weren't trying to destroy the earth. But, I keep comparing it to Countycide and finding Meat lacking. I'm happy that Rhys knows about Torchwood. I'm curious about how long it' will take before Owen accidentally/on purpose lets it slip that he's slept with Gwen. Ceribri Jack's "What have they done to you" was almost strange to hear from him. Of course, he's seen SO many deaths, and it's this helpless creature crying out.. I seriously thought that Jack had some kind of strange flashback moment (about what/who, I have no clue) when he looked into the creature's eye. My first thought was "the writer's really don't know what to do with Jack's character." Not ten minutes before Gwen's all "So you do have a heart," and now he's communing with alien whales? And, of course, it would have been too convenient to be believable if Jack had prior knowledge of the alien, but at least it wouldn't have been OOC. (Which matters more, to me anyway.) Jack/Gwen just confuses me. Jack's sexuality on Torchwood confuses me, in general. He's supposed to be omni, right? So why does Torchwood!Jack just strikes me as nothing more than an extremely flirty gay guy? In DW, I believed he would have put it to Chan-Tho, all night if she'd been willing. But, I don't think he could muster up a passionate kiss for Gwen (or any other woman, for that matter), no matter how often the show tries to suggest otherwise. If this were American television, it'd be easier to understand: "oh, they're trying for attention by making two male leading characters lovers, but they don't want to piss off the Protestant mothers, so one of the gay characters is secretly in love with the female lead." Am I being naive to think the British tv industry is a bit more open than that? I could totally see Torchwood!harem, tho. They could make a fortune in the porn industry.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:28 pm
Cranium Rinse He's supposed to be omni, right? Not really. He's supposed to be from a culture beyond labels, and 'omnisexual' is a label. Cranium Rinse So why does Torchwood!Jack just strikes me as nothing more than an extremely flirty gay guy? In DW, I believed he would have put it to Chan-Tho, all night if she'd been willing. But, I don't think he could muster up a passionate kiss for Gwen (or any other woman, for that matter), no matter how often the show tries to suggest otherwise. I know what you mean here. John Barrowman, despite being the very archetype of 'extremely flirty gay guy' can certainly play heterosexual romance and desire very convincingly (watching his scenes with Rose, you'd never doubt his rougish intentions) but for some reason that doesn't come across in Torchwood. Maybe it's because Jack/Gwen is so unconvincing just because it's Jack/Gwen, that some of the unconvincing spills over and makes the idea of him fancying any woman a bit absurd. Cranium Rinse If this were American television, it'd be easier to understand: "oh, they're trying for attention by making two male leading characters lovers, but they don't want to piss off the Protestant mothers, so one of the gay characters is secretly in love with the female lead." Am I being naive to think the British tv industry is a bit more open than that? We're very far from the world I know if RTD would sign his name to anything that went down the road of appeasement. When someone once complained to him about there being gay references in Doctor Who, then rather than being consiliatory, he turned round and told her she was a bad mother! So no, whatever's going on, it's very unlikely to be mandated by a desire to avoid pissing people off. The production team's attitude towards people likely to be pissed off by homosexuality is very much "Bring 'em on." I think this comes from nowhere more complicated than lazy following of the conventions of the form. In a show that has a leading lady and a leading man then it's expected that there'll be a romantic element to their relationship. Torchwood's just gone with the flow and done the expected thing, which is a bit of a shame. Unless, of course, the whole Gwen/Jack thing is all set-up for something massively unexpected we've not seen coming. Doubt it, but you never know.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:59 pm
Cranium Rinse But, I keep comparing it to Countycide and finding Meat lacking. I personally thought Meat was far better than Countrycide. By the way, both episodes were aiming for different things, so one shouldn't compare them in that fashion. Countrcide is superior in terms of action and suspense, true, but Meat focused more on the characters than anything else.
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