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fakestreet

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:03 am


doubledammit
i played in the local ravnica opening draft and was sort of disappointed with the outcome....seems like its build r/w in draft or your gonna lose...


i beg to differ.
R/W can come out fast and strong with the right cards but G/W or G/B will come out in the mid-late game. to draft R/W well, you need all the evasion creatures with the removal to back it up otherwise, G/anything will run over it really fast.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:19 am


fakestreet
doubledammit
i played in the local ravnica opening draft and was sort of disappointed with the outcome....seems like its build r/w in draft or your gonna lose...


i beg to differ.
R/W can come out fast and strong with the right cards but G/W or G/B will come out in the mid-late game. to draft R/W well, you need all the evasion creatures with the removal to back it up otherwise, G/anything will run over it really fast.


you have a good point but there are only a few r/w cards you need to win in draft.
-sunhome enforcer
-preferably sunforger (helps alot)
-lightning helix
-boros fury sheild
those will win you a draft right there.(I watched it happen)

doubledammit


fakestreet

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:15 pm


doubledammit
fakestreet
doubledammit
i played in the local ravnica opening draft and was sort of disappointed with the outcome....seems like its build r/w in draft or your gonna lose...


i beg to differ.
R/W can come out fast and strong with the right cards but G/W or G/B will come out in the mid-late game. to draft R/W well, you need all the evasion creatures with the removal to back it up otherwise, G/anything will run over it really fast.


you have a good point but there are only a few r/w cards you need to win in draft.
-sunhome enforcer
-preferably sunforger (helps alot)
-lightning helix
-boros fury sheild
those will win you a draft right there.(I watched it happen)


3/4 of the cards you named aren't common therefore you can't be expected to always get them. i will not argue they're bad but if you're basing the strength of a limited archtype on its uncommon/rare cards, there is a flaw.

let me give you an equivalent G/W cards with your specs and compare
- Watchwolf
- Glare of Subdual (or Crown of Convergence)
- Selesnya Guildmage
- Selesnya Evangel
what you have here are first picks and a bomb that just wins game. the problem is you probably don't get to draft all of them at the same time unless you're really lucky.

now if you compare red commons vs green commons (no sense arguing over white most of the time since it's the shared color), you'll find that green commons have a lot more staying power. i'm not saying red is worse or anything, it's just a different style of play.
sample red first picks
- Galvanic Arc
- Viashino Fangtail
- Skyknight Legionnaire
sample green first picks:
- Siege Wurm
- Bramble Elemental
- Selesnya Evangel

from 3-4 drafts, i have witnessed that a solid G/W will most likely roll over a solid R/W. i say this b/c i was the R/W player with 3 Fangtail, 2 Galvanic Arc, etc. and i can't deal with a Siege Wurm on the table they convoked on turn 4.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 pm


doubledammit
i played in the local ravnica opening draft and was sort of disappointed with the outcome....seems like its build r/w in draft or your gonna lose...

I have been to 2 ravnica drafts and the first time I played w/g and went 1/3. The second time I went w/r and won. This weekend I'm going to another one and I will probably go u/b because those are the only 2 I haven't drafted yet. And a red card that really helped me in the draft was Sell-Sword Brute I drafted 3 of him and every game got him out on turn 2. Three others were Galvanic Arc (obviously), Rally the Righteous (I got 2) and Skyknight Legionnaire (I got 3).

Megamanxlink


doubledammit

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:35 am


fakestreet
doubledammit
fakestreet
doubledammit
i played in the local ravnica opening draft and was sort of disappointed with the outcome....seems like its build r/w in draft or your gonna lose...


i beg to differ.
R/W can come out fast and strong with the right cards but G/W or G/B will come out in the mid-late game. to draft R/W well, you need all the evasion creatures with the removal to back it up otherwise, G/anything will run over it really fast.


you have a good point but there are only a few r/w cards you need to win in draft.
-sunhome enforcer
-preferably sunforger (helps alot)
-lightning helix
-boros fury sheild
those will win you a draft right there.(I watched it happen)


3/4 of the cards you named aren't common therefore you can't be expected to always get them. i will not argue they're bad but if you're basing the strength of a limited archtype on its uncommon/rare cards, there is a flaw.

let me give you an equivalent G/W cards with your specs and compare
- Watchwolf
- Glare of Subdual (or Crown of Convergence)
- Selesnya Guildmage
- Selesnya Evangel
what you have here are first picks and a bomb that just wins game. the problem is you probably don't get to draft all of them at the same time unless you're really lucky.

now if you compare red commons vs green commons (no sense arguing over white most of the time since it's the shared color), you'll find that green commons have a lot more staying power. i'm not saying red is worse or anything, it's just a different style of play.
sample red first picks
- Galvanic Arc
- Viashino Fangtail
- Skyknight Legionnaire
sample green first picks:
- Siege Wurm
- Bramble Elemental
- Selesnya Evangel

from 3-4 drafts, i have witnessed that a solid G/W will most likely roll over a solid R/W. i say this b/c i was the R/W player with 3 Fangtail, 2 Galvanic Arc, etc. and i can't deal with a Siege Wurm on the table they convoked on turn 4.



touche' im just sayin that the draft(s) i went to every time R/W won it. the first time i went B/U and got womped btw and i had the perfect draft deck with the exception of rares (glimpse and Szardek). and the last one i went to G/W got second (beat by R/W). i dont know, maybe people just need to wait for the next set in the block to come out(i wanna play with the rakdos).
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:15 am


The G/B mill decks are nasty theres a rare B/G called Glimpse the Unthinkable witch mills your top 10 cards of your opppents deck.

GreenRose25


fakestreet

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:24 pm


GreenRose25
The G/B mill decks are nasty theres a rare B/G called Glimpse the Unthinkable witch mills your top 10 cards of your opppents deck.


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get your facts straight before posting <_<
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:35 pm


YAY!! I'm going to another Ravinca: CoG draft today. blaugh I think I'll go U/B or B/G. I hope I do well. The last one I went to I won so heres to hoping.

Megamanxlink


fakestreet

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:22 pm


Megamanxlink
YAY!! I'm going to another Ravinca: CoG draft today. blaugh I think I'll go U/B or B/G. I hope I do well. The last one I went to I won so heres to hoping.


personally, i don't go into a draft hoping to go a certain color. i just look at what is given to me and pick accordingly.
i usually try G or B unless something really strong of another color is constantly being passed to me however.
i need to work on my draft reading skill <_<
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:57 pm


Lord Yawgmoth
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/887


So who thinks there'll be a cycle of allied colored lands like that in Ravnica? I for one think those are the best lands wizards has printed since the fetch lands of Onslaught. 3nodding

Just wanted to be the first to show everyone the awesomeness.
The new duel lands are fetching extremely high-prices. I pulled a foil Watery Grave last week, and you should have seen what all I got for it. A partial list includes:
2xWrath of God
4xSwords To Plowshares
4xEternal Witness
3xRancor
1xDCI Foil Rancor

And that's just a few of them.

Anyway, Ravnica kicks the crap out of Mirrodin and Kamigawa, which, sorry to offend anyone but, I thought were two of the worst sets in Magic's History. I mean, in Mirrodin, you could only play a)Ravager Affinity or b)Anti-Affinity. Well, that's all you could play after Skullclamp was banned anyway. And Kamigawa was just Onslaught with different tribes. Besides, it didn't even match Onslaught.
So, Ravnica really roaring in my blood system right now.

Priest_Phoenix


Flightless_Dragon

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:06 pm


Priest_Phoenix
Lord Yawgmoth
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/887


So who thinks there'll be a cycle of allied colored lands like that in Ravnica? I for one think those are the best lands wizards has printed since the fetch lands of Onslaught. 3nodding

Just wanted to be the first to show everyone the awesomeness.
The new duel lands are fetching extremely high-prices. I pulled a foil Watery Grave last week, and you should have seen what all I got for it. A partial list includes:
2xWrath of God
4xSwords To Plowshares
4xEternal Witness
3xRancor
1xDCI Foil Rancor

And that's just a few of them.

Anyway, Ravnica kicks the crap out of Mirrodin and Kamigawa, which, sorry to offend anyone but, I thought were two of the worst sets in Magic's History. I mean, in Mirrodin, you could only play a)Ravager Affinity or b)Anti-Affinity. Well, that's all you could play after Skullclamp was banned anyway. And Kamigawa was just Onslaught with different tribes. Besides, it didn't even match Onslaught.
So, Ravnica really roaring in my blood system right now.
I have to agree with you on your last point and after seeing the posts so far I might even grab a box.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:32 pm


fakestreet
Megamanxlink
YAY!! I'm going to another Ravinca: CoG draft today. blaugh I think I'll go U/B or B/G. I hope I do well. The last one I went to I won so heres to hoping.


personally, i don't go into a draft hoping to go a certain color. i just look at what is given to me and pick accordingly.
i usually try G or B unless something really strong of another color is constantly being passed to me however.
i need to work on my draft reading skill <_<

Its just that I have been to a couple already and just felt like going U/B but, sadly we put off the draft till Nov. 7th. If I would've come across any other rares I would've done a different deck but, I'm gonna try for a U/B deck.

Megamanxlink


AFK Masturbating

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:55 pm


fakestreet
Megamanxlink
YAY!! I'm going to another Ravinca: CoG draft today. blaugh I think I'll go U/B or B/G. I hope I do well. The last one I went to I won so heres to hoping.


personally, i don't go into a draft hoping to go a certain color. i just look at what is given to me and pick accordingly.
i usually try G or B unless something really strong of another color is constantly being passed to me however.
i need to work on my draft reading skill <_<


I usually bogart the rares first when drafting! xd
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:45 am


Angelic Celestia
fakestreet
Megamanxlink
YAY!! I'm going to another Ravinca: CoG draft today. blaugh I think I'll go U/B or B/G. I hope I do well. The last one I went to I won so heres to hoping.


personally, i don't go into a draft hoping to go a certain color. i just look at what is given to me and pick accordingly.
i usually try G or B unless something really strong of another color is constantly being passed to me however.
i need to work on my draft reading skill <_<


I usually bogart the rares first when drafting! xd

There's nothing wrong with rare drafting. I do it all the time. ninja

Megamanxlink


GreenRose25

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:00 am


dimir guild ROCKS ALL HAIL THE MILL POWER!!!!! But why did they make such good cards. They should have at least put some limits on the cards.
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