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 Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:03 pm
I've read and heard about this concept, and have been intrigued by it. Potentially, it could encourage many, many kids to get off their collective backsides and DO WORK. But on the flipside, it could cause kids to start rings of hiring nerds to do their papers, and such, effectively making a corporation out of getting a grade. If this concept is applied to other things could be a cause for kids to maybe make a change. as well as cause a change, in how they see and do things. What do you all think?
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:08 pm
I've never heard about how this has ever encouraged people to write a term paper.
But I do know that the underground term paper trade has been around for a very long time (at least long enough for teachers and professors to know that some people are lazy, rich, and crazy enough to do this), and in my opinion, putting trust in a total stranger to write an A paper if I give him $100 (or whatever the projected cost may be) is riskier and stupider than bungee jumping without double-checking all the equipment. Not only is it possible that the teacher or professor or whoever will suspect plagiarism, but how can anyone have a guarantee that they will "get their money's worth" out of the deal?
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:09 pm
I think that, at the very least, I will serve to "remove the chaff from the wheat" so to speak. Putting those that actually learn on a higher level than those who don't.
Which will, ultimately, serve to widen the span between the upper and lower class. Depending on where you are and how you serve to benefit from such a world will color this system either "good" or "bad."
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:23 pm
~zzang~ Depending on where you are and how you serve to benefit from such a world will color this system either "good" or "bad." Not necessarily. This class system would appear to be based on distributing power, and material wealth does not HAVE to be distributed proportionately to power. Plato, for instance, who had a very similar idea believed the wise (and educated) upper class rulers shouldn't be able to own any material possessions apart from life's bare necessities so they could perform their governing duties without being tempted to act on greed and self-interest.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:27 pm
I like that idea... but unless there was a profound rewiring of the political system at large it could never function.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:03 pm
~zzang~ I like that idea... but unless there was a profound rewiring of the political system at large it could never function. Not to mention a wild shift in political ideals (somehow, support for a system that would mostly resemble an oligarchy must outweigh support for democracy) and that it would be very, very difficult to to find people smart/wise enough to be a part of this upper class, anyway.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:23 am
Yes but it would also be profoundly difficult to maintain.
...For some reason I'm reminded of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:22 pm
No. Dear god no.
Kids need to learn that getting good grades is UP TO THEM, and that good grades will only BENEFIT THEMSELVES so that they can go to college and get a good amount of schooling that can land them a job that pays well. Hell, if you pass high school with a moderate GPA you're FAR more likely to get a good job than if you drop out in grade school or flunk out and sit around at home.
If kids want money, they can do chores, take care of neighborhood pets while people are on vacation or get a small summer job here and there.
Good work ethic is for YOUR BENEFIT. If you turn 18 and your parents don't want to deal with you, they can kick you out to fend for yourself.
So no, money for grades is not a good idea. Taking your kid out to celebrate a good report card and getting pizza or something is a good way to recognize the achievement, but giving someone money simply seems like a baldfaced bribe.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:52 pm
Andrew Ryan I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... .. Rapture. ..Hey, I like Bioshock, too. =B~
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