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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:20 am
SD Paul Prospero Because, spam posts are what people who are posting alone can manage most of the time. Asking for help isn't an immediate fix to the problem. You STILL HAVE TO GET to your potential partner, and that's even IF someone takes an interest in role playing with you. Furthermore, they completely ignored the depressed members who, quite literally, CANNOT manage perfect posts because depression causes a lack of interest and functionality. I myself suffer from longterm effects from two battles with cancer, as well as depression. It's exhausting to even try and dish out three sentence. I've typed up at least fifty posts since my haitus, but never posted a single one because they were awful. And, with the new literacy force added, I'm tempted to quit because I have no ability to be what P:ER defines as a "perfect" role player. It's like they're intentionally ******** with the people with problems while making the guild a better place for people who don't. I know that's not the case, but that's what it's like. Also, the whole purpose of Sketch and Balm Mushrooms is to, quite literally, GIVE POKEMON MOVES THEY DON'T NORMALLY LEARN. This includes legendary moves. I had so many plans for this that would be used towards Teito's plot, but now I have to dump them because a few people who don't have legendary moves felt offended and decided to take it out on everyone else. Realistically, our creative rights haven't been tarnished, but that's exactly what it feels like. I'm all for literacy, but in a guild where character interaction isn't an enforced rule, forcing people to be more literate than they can handle is flat out rude. I, for one, will not be following that rule with joy. I'll still follow the rule, but I will grumble and complain as I do. This IS NOT a refusal to comply. I work seven days a week under an extremely homophobic boss who is pushing me to my limits in hopes that I'll quit, and I may or may not have cancer for the third time in four years. That stress, combined with depression and exhaustion, is more than enough ground to be pissed that I have to exceed my mental limits just to please people who have never shown any interest in communicating with me or my character, excluding Lia. ...So, writing up 3-5 sentences is hard for a post, but you can write up four paragraphs as to why it's a chore no problem?
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:19 am
That's because a) I'm being myself instead of a character that's his own person in a sense, b) I know what I wanted to say, and c) I had a decent few hours of sleep, so.... Either way, typing up an opinionated novel is different than typing a post that relies on creativity, which actually does require more effort.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:19 am
Go make your own guild. Please. We've told people this before, and now, I will post this here, and try make it very, very clear, that we DO NOT MIND if people want to literally copy and paste as much or as little of this guild if they want, so they can make their own guild. We did not make this guild to be as big and as popular as we can. We are trying to create a community that we want to rp in, and if you disagree with it, please go make your own. We are tired of the 'misunderstandings', and I'm sure others are, too-- if you and your friends, and those 'four people' who will likely leave go make your own guild, I'm sure others will join. We'd be happy for them, because all we want to do is enjoy rping as best we can, with others who can take the time to try and understand the rules, and politely discuss them, instead of taking everything personally, and posting in the ooc to complain, rather than give simple feedback in the poll that is quite literally designed for that. Because we've mentioned before, we don't mind discussing things, and we've made several, several feedback polls specifically to check in with people on things, and we've made adjustments due to feedback before. And if you make another guild, and we really hope you do, we will be happy to inform everyone of it and encourage them to join if they like it. It's not like we want people to only be in our guild, we're happy to mention others and encourage people to join. I don't want another "Fine, whatever" response. If this continues, we'll just ask those who continue to tell us how we're being tyrants, and how less appealing our guild is, and how negative things are instead of discussing things, to leave.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:44 am
Ok, so Im with Sonic on this. Regardless of what life issues may be going on you should still be able to make the proper post. It has said on the front page since day one what the proper way of posting is. If you joined the guild not thinking that it applied to you then you are wrong. Im a Fugitive Recovery Agent and former Police Officer. Kou what foes that have to do with anything? Stress, like all of us it means stress. I see things on a daily basis that no person should ever have to see, make choices that no one my age should have to make. Ive been shot at spit on and even stabbed. I really dont want to hear a sympathy story because I could tell you things that you would only normally see on TV. Hell Ive even had to arrest people, as FRA, whom were in need of medical care. Call me heartless, cold or cruel, but I show no sympathy for anyone whom doesnt follow the rules. So that being said, I agree with my friend Loon. If you cant follow rules that are not new(it says in the update) then leave and make your own guild. You can make it as loose and carefree as possible
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:31 am
Koukaze Ok, so Im with Sonic on this. Regardless of what life issues may be going on you should still be able to make the proper post. It has said on the front page since day one what the proper way of posting is. If you joined the guild not thinking that it applied to you then you are wrong. Im a Fugitive Recovery Agent and former Police Officer. Kou what foes that have to do with anything? Stress, like all of us it means stress. I see things on a daily basis that no person should ever have to see, make choices that no one my age should have to make. Ive been shot at spit on and even stabbed. I really dont want to hear a sympathy story because I could tell you things that you would only normally see on TV. Hell Ive even had to arrest people, as FRA, whom were in need of medical care. Call me heartless, cold or cruel, but I show no sympathy for anyone whom doesnt follow the rules. So that being said, I agree with my friend Loon. If you cant follow rules that are not new(it says in the update) then leave and make your own guild. You can make it as loose and carefree as possible Where did he say this rule doesn't apply to him...? Because, all I see are points being made as to why asking for help/partners isn't an immediate or even permanent fix and stating condions that can make posting as an alternate persona can be difficult. Either way, he has the right to be pissed about it. Also, if you actually read the italicized part of his post, he clearly says he will obey the rule. Even if not happily. So, please. Don't go around putting words into his mouth. Also, Chris is a former Marine, so don't go trying to compare horrors with him. It's not a contest. You've both experienced horrors, you're both suffering for it. We get it. He's not trying to get a pass on the rules; he's trying to get the mods to see their rules can make things difficult for certain members. The mods wanted and encouraged opinions, so they got them. If they take offense to those opinions, even though there was no name calling or mod ridicule or anything other than a few caps locked words to emphasize points....Well, tough. It's a risk people take when they ask/encourage others to share opinions. They can't punish someone for answering their calls. So, please. Would you kindly just drop the subject? And, I'm addressing everyone at this point. Go watch something funny on YouTube or have some cake and ice cream or whatever you do to make yourself happy and just....Calm down and get back to the silence of no chaos. There's really no point to this fight. In fact, it's outright ridiculous. What's done is done, even if it's not agreeable to everyone.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:33 pm
CLCyrus Where did he say this rule doesn't apply to him...? Because, all I see are points being made as to why asking for help/partners isn't an immediate or even permanent fix and stating condions that can make posting as an alternate persona can be difficult. Either way, he has the right to be pissed about it. Also, if you actually read the italicized part of his post, he clearly says he will obey the rule. Even if not happily. So, please. Don't go around putting words into his mouth. Let me stop you right there. I never said that he felt the rule didnt apply to him. I simply said that if he joined feeling the rule didnt apply to him then he was wrong. Also, you quite clearly mossed the whole point of my rebuttal. It was simply that even with the stress that I have in my personal life that I manage to meet guild rules and guidelines with my one character. You know not to mention, once again for the umpteenth time, THE RULES HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE START! Its not about if you follow the rule or not, its the way that you go about following it that is the issue. Its the clear disregard for the rule that the reiterated it because its being ignored. CLCyrus Also, Chris is a former Marine, so don't go trying to compare horrors with him. It's not a contest. You've both experienced horrors, you're both suffering for it. We get it. He's not trying to get a pass on the rules; he's trying to get the mods to see their rules can make things difficult for certain members. Im not even going to address this because I wasnt comparing horror stories in the slightest. Im not suffering and Im not one of those members because I have followed the rules since day one. CLCyrus The mods wanted and encouraged opinions, so they got them. If they take offense to those opinions, even though there was no name calling or mod ridicule or anything other than a few caps locked words to emphasize points....Well, tough. It's a risk people take when they ask/encourage others to share opinions. They can't punish someone for answering their calls. They wanted pre opinions before the fact. They got them. They are thinking of general fairness as a whole not because some group of friends come in and think they can bully their way into getting what they want. Its also quite apparent that you lot have had other issues in the passed, based off some personal research I have done myself on the matter CLCyrus So, please. Would you kindly just drop the subject? And, I'm addressing everyone at this point. Go watch something funny on YouTube or have some cake and ice cream or whatever you do to make yourself happy and just....Calm down and get back to the silence of no chaos. There's really no point to this fight. In fact, it's outright ridiculous. What's done is done, even if it's not agreeable to everyone. Aaaaaaand this... The defuser. Guess what? It doesnt work that way, you cant fire back and expect people to just drop it. It most certainly doesnt work that way. My not a mpd or crew and therefore will show no remorse and hold nothing back. Every word every sentence I will pick a part if you continue on. This while thing right here? It isnt even me trying to be rude bit Loon gave you an option so you can take it or you can stay but if you stay I dont want to have to waste my time dealing with simple bickering from a group of people that disagree with what mods say. Let me give you an example. A Highway Patrolman pulls you over. You were clearly speeding. He asks you if you think he should give you a ticket or a warning. Very upright and rudly you declare that you feel you need to receive a warning because you werent actually speeding. He walks away runs your license and insurance and comes back. He tells you that based off your attitude he has decided to give you a ticket. He writes it up and goes about his day. You complain, yeah, but does it change anything? Nah not really you have to just suck it up and pay the fine and make sure next time you follow the rules of the road. So like Loon has said if you dont like it then leave
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:15 pm
Again....This argument is continuing because someone can't just drop the subject even after being asked. The reason the OOC is so cluttered with s**t is because people can't let go. Myself included, I know.
But, seriously. This entire argument is ridiculous. ENOUGH. It started over a single comment that didn't even say much. It was literally one sentence about how it can, and probably will, affect the member base. It's done. Opinions stated, rules modified, drama had. Move on already.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:27 pm
Alright, alright.
Let's stop. If people want to respond or continue the discussion, move to PMs.
Koukaze is right, in that it's not fair to argue, and then tell people to drop it, so that they look like the bad guy if they respond, which they have the right to.
However, Jewel's also right; the ooc has dealt with too much argumentative crap as it is.
I stand by everything I said in my post, and I still disagree strongly with what initiated this, but if anyone wants to discuss it, we can move it to PMs. Let's move things forward, and in the future, once things become a back and forth, I will try and intercept quickly and ask the same things.
The public of the guild does not need to deal with this, and while I hate moving things to PMs as a mod because it looks like things are trying to be covered up, I will, in the future, make mention of sending messages so that people know something's being addressed, and leave it at that.
Let's try and shift the subject along.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:35 pm
"size=size" is not a valid code, lucifer....
so! i'm doing great! got a puppy. pitbull. named her cocoa. she's a sweetheart. absolutely loves to cuddle and follow daddy around.
my cousin visited for a few days. went to oceans of fun with her. neighbor scared us half to death by knocking on the kitchen window while we did dishes. broke my favorite bowl....damn jump reflex. spent a lot of time watching Cry Reads on YouTube with her. she's into some spooky stuff, man.
so....yeah. that's been my life. i might start a YouTube channel myself sometime. glad to see everyone focused on the part of my post that means jack squat over the fact that one of our members is sick, which seems a lot more important. priorities! yay!
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:36 pm
I will help with making the OOC feel more like the OOC again.
Finally got around to posting in Mt. Moon again, decided to battle something in Kanto and of course, it's a Paras. Why a bug pokemon for my character who is scared of them? I went this way to help him avoid bugs. In Forests he never runs into bug pokemon, but a mountain is where I thought he'd do great with all his water pokemon. lol
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:49 pm
..... Quoting from the homepage of Random People of Tomorrow, please leave the drama at the door.
And also I love you Virgina, but you can't be doing that. C'mon.
Anyways, I've kinda been thinking about restarting my Omega Ruby, but I realized I still have the original GBA cartridges, where I can give Pokemon rude and obscene names. My sister is already ahead of me with that. O:
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:49 pm
Crush Crush I will help with making the OOC feel more like the OOC again.
Finally got around to posting in Mt. Moon again, decided to battle something in Kanto and of course, it's a Paras. Why a bug pokemon for my character who is scared of them? I went this way to help him avoid bugs. In Forests he never runs into bug pokemon, but a mountain is where I thought he'd do great with all his water pokemon. lol I just imagine an army of Paras going "You came to the wroooong neighborhood boy" xD
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:01 pm
Sonic Lazar Crush Crush I will help with making the OOC feel more like the OOC again.
Finally got around to posting in Mt. Moon again, decided to battle something in Kanto and of course, it's a Paras. Why a bug pokemon for my character who is scared of them? I went this way to help him avoid bugs. In Forests he never runs into bug pokemon, but a mountain is where I thought he'd do great with all his water pokemon. lol I just imagine an army of Paras going "You came to the wroooong neighborhood boy" xD That is so true with evil bugs, plus his own pokemon will make him fight it, might make him want to move a lot quicker through the mountain. That might actually lead me into catching my Legendary, so it might be a good thing. Luckily I have a flying type, so this will be a short battle.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:13 pm
Helping with putting in nicer comments.
So, for a while I've been trying to get the gumption (and the good enough excuse) to do those thirty posts in a forest or cave with Sable so she could grab a Big Mushroom. Kept burning out after certain points, though, and had kept insisting to myself that eventually, I'd get it. With traveling with Spec's character and the fact that we both need to get two badges (preferably three) from a region fairly quickly, though, I've kinda put that plan on the backburner, at least until we get through Misty and possibly Surge.
Well, with these new achievements I figured, since I'm waiting a bit, I might as well update the lists for my characters and update the post on their profiles for stuff I still need to claim for them. Stuff like horoscope Pokemon, event items, and just stuff I haven't had an opportunity to introduce yet. Well, upon fixing that to also include the event items, I noticed that sitting right in Sable's unclaimed items list is a Big Mushroom. XD So that marks off one thing to worry about for now.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:29 pm
LUCIFER!!! STOP MAKING MISTAKES!!! "color=blank" is NOT a code!! come on, man!
gumption? what's a gumption?
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