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well, i see marriage as a social institution concerning only one man and one woman. this is because of how perfectly men and women fit and how both were created different and thus have different ... roles (i can't think of a better word). like, i see men and women as equal, yeah? but at the same time, i believe that God created males and females in such a way that males have a tendency to lead whereas women have the tendency to want someone to lead them. now don't try and say that you don't, because i won't believe you razz . now, a majority of the time, homosexual men will be more feminine, and homosexual women will be more masuline (not saying all the time). i've noticed also that when two lesbians are in a relationship, one will take a more masculine role (not basing my opinion solely on this, but my sister saw an obvious lesbian couple: one was completely butch and the other was drop-dead gorgeous.). this is because that women want someone to lead and when there is no one to lead, one of them will have to. as for gay men, i haven't really noticed that one guy will be masculine and the other feminine, but then again i haven't observed many gay male relationships.

anyway, i don't know if that was a a rabbit trail or not, but my point is that men and women were made for each other because of their personalities and tendencies. therefore, marriage should only be between one man and one woman (polygamy is stupid and only evokes jealousy).

now why do i want to butt into your life? well, if you recall another analogy that i have made, if someone one cared for felt that the person was doing something wrong or unhealthy, than the first would try and turn the friend from what they were doing. savvy? in Christians this is amplified especially for unbelievers because of the severe consequences.

So you assume two women and two men are created exactly alike and are therefore incompatible? Goodness, what are all these crazy people doing with friends of the same gender? How dare they not conform to their roles!

Chauvanist much? Being a man yourself, you might be inclined to think that you are in a superior position and are thusly the leader in any form of co-ed relationship just as I, as a woman, am inclined to think that I am much more complex than any male (though that is not true), but that is not sufficient reason--much less proof that women follow and men lead. If that be the case, then why are there so many female teachers? Why are there so many women in charge of family budgets? Why are there so many women now, due to gender equality, advancing to some of the highest positions in the corporate world? Why are there men who do menial tasks and take orders from superiors without question? Why are there timid men period?

That's nice, 'cause there are times that I do indeed enjoy being lead. Not by a man, but by my girlfriend in our relationship. She is the more timid of both of us, but we really have interchangable "roles" if you can be so bold as to say that each person is to assume a set role in every single relationship. My tendency, however, personally... is to be outgoing and to lead, especially in larger groups. Many women might not have the tendency to follow at all, and plenty of men have a tendency to be lead from time to time as well.

A majority, eh? Odd, where are you getting these statistics if I might inquire? And no, flipping the channel on to coverage of the recent gay pride parades around the nation is not proof enough--because you have failed to take in to consideration that more than half the population of the gay community are still in the closet.

You've noticed this? How many lesbian couples have you had the chance to sit down and observe their behavior? Or are you just judging by style of clothing? Interesting that the one or two lesbian couples that you have identified as such due to your stereotypes have suddenly been nominated to represent every single lesbian--or even most lesbians in the world. Do you realize that you recognize these people as lesbians because they are exactly as you imagine them to be? You haven't the slightest clue how many girls you have probably assumed were only friends when they could have actually been lesbians. Do not confuse transgender with gay, please.

Now, you assume that women, by default, want to be lead, and that they must step out of their natural elements, chop off all their hair, rip the sleeves off of their Led Zeppelin t-shirt, and assume the role of a male? You don't get much interaction with women, do you? Dominance and submissiveness is not gender specific, and you are deluding yourself if you disagree.

Nor have you observed any lesbian relationships, have you? There's a huge difference between observation and watching a couple on TV or seeing some random two people who you assume to be gay, and then drawing conclusions about their personalities based on their appearance.

This is barely touching the "Adam and Steve" argument here. You may think that men and women were made for one another--and for all reproductive intents and purposes, this is true--however, a positive assertion != truth in the negative. Macaroni noodles... and cheese were made for eachother, let's assume. So, therefore, cheese should be used in nothing else, nor should macaroni noodles.

Would "stay the ******** out of my life" convince you otherwise? You are obviously missing the point that I am in love. Nothing you can say will make me suddenly up and leave my girlfriend of four years, and threats of Hell and the likes not only make you look foolish for directly disobeying your own damn Messiah's teachings in making such threats, but it makes me want to throttle you a little bit more every day.

Again:
-I don't feel my relationship is unhealthy.
-I do not fear Hell because I do not believe in it's existence.
-I am as bold as to claim that I love my girlfriend more than you love God.
-No religious reasoning will ever make me second guess my relationship with my lover. I am a ******** Satanist.

I will defiantly have a ceremony performed publically uniting my girlfriend and I in the future should the laws not change--because any ceremony is legal, the issue is the financial aspects. Homophobes are bothered by the idea of two same-sex lovers actually being affectionate instead of purely mindlessly lusty. Continuing to ban gay marriage will not keep gay affection from occuring.

This is so offensive, I honestly can't respond to it now. Maybe in a day or so.

Enjoy.

Kinda OT, but Pirate, how do you feel about the term "queer" for homosexuals?

so, can we add "queer" to the nickname thread, or is that a bit too far? wink

I'll take it. 3nodding *Is a queer, queer girl.*