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 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:15 pm
Actually, his reasoning is from the bible. That's what he learned.
Just because it isn't exactly from himself, though I suppose it actually is because that's what he believes, doesn't exactly make it not debating. Yusono posted a lot of stuff about love being chemical, how is that debating and the bible isn't? The bible is just a different point of view which is something people are seemingly forgetting. And I don't think getting angry at someone for putting "#######" over "********" is debating. I thought it was rather rude. He doesn't like swear words so he changed a quote, which isn't editing a post.
~ I Love Tommy ~
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:25 pm
|| w e l c o m e 2 P o l l s P a r a d i s e ||I don't like a lot of things I see that I end up quoting but I don't go back and change them to #'s. It's a waste of time to me and it's a part of what someone said. I always thought it was disrespectful.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:33 pm
not to be rude;
but isn't debate all about comparing and asserting viewpoints?
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:50 pm
Sad_Sad_Kiddie not to be rude;
but isn't debate all about comparing and asserting viewpoints?
Exactly.
~ I Love Tommy ~
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:51 pm
Sensay Sasuke It's a sin. The BIBLE says not have same sex realationships in anyway. I personally don't think it should happen but hey ya know what am I to do i not into politics. I still do not see where the Bible says not to be gay : / . Everyone just says that it does but I never see any quotes to go with it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:55 pm
Le_newtype Sensay Sasuke It's a sin. The BIBLE says not have same sex realationships in anyway. I personally don't think it should happen but hey ya know what am I to do i not into politics. I still do not see where the Bible says not to be gay : / . Everyone just says that it does but I never see any quotes to go with it.
"The Bible clearly and consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of his or her own choice."
~ I Love Tommy ~
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:18 pm
// Leviticus:
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Actually, this is pretty interesting.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm
It shows us how that quote could be interpreted other than just Gay=Bad.
In any case, the Bible has no credibility to say what is right and what is wrong.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:35 pm
Kyle Riley
Actually, his reasoning is from the bible. That's what he learned.
Just because it isn't exactly from himself, though I suppose it actually is because that's what he believes, doesn't exactly make it not debating. Yusono posted a lot of stuff about love being chemical, how is that debating and the bible isn't? The bible is just a different point of view which is something people are seemingly forgetting. And I don't think getting angry at someone for putting "#######" over "********" is debating. I thought it was rather rude. He doesn't like swear words so he changed a quote, which isn't editing a post.
~ I Love Tommy ~ [ However he actually stopped debating after page three and just continued to state his point of view and nothing else. When other's challanged his point of view he couldn't support it so he reverted to just saying his view over again, that's what I'm upset about. He has basically stopped debating and just gone into arguing.
He is also getting uppity about us not beign able to prove our points when we provide more information then he does. I'm not trying to be rude but I seriously don't believe he is actually debating.]
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:41 pm
// That means we have won. >:3
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:58 pm
Wormmon kuntrykid Wormmon kuntrykid Wormmon If you can't handle a few curse words, then get out of the debate forum.
Love is love. That is what you're arguing about in the terms of homosexuals. Obviously you missed my point.
Gays can love each other just as heterosexual couples can. neutral A man looks at a woman and says "I love you" when he loves her. Everyone is okay with this. But when a man says "I love you" to another man, half the population looks at them like they are freaks. Why is it different? Because they are two males? Pfft. The only way I can see someone not happy with gay people being in love where because they are homophobics.
Don't ever edit my posts no matter what words I use either. I find it disrespectful.
You should know what love is and doesn't matter who is in love with who after seeing your profile and seeing that you have a girlfriend. 1. I just see curse word as unneeded and disrespectful. It's not like I was freaking out about it. 2. stressed I'm debating that homosexuals don't actually love each other. 3.I never said that homosexuals were freaks! That's what no-one seems to get. I'm just saying that I disagree with their beliefs. 4.I'm not homophobic... I'm good friends with someone who's bi. 5. I didn't edit your post. You see where you did the "#######"? That's called editing someone's post. rolleyes Bi is a bit different. You probably are better being friends with that person because you still know the fact that even though they like the same sex, they like the opposite as well. Debating about homosexuals being in love with each other is basically the same thing about arguing what kinds of love is there. It's love. I don't understand why you don't think two men or two women can love each other. They are humans. All humans have the ability to love someone. If they want to be with that person for the rest of their life until the day they die, they are in love. Just like a man and a woman. All that's different is their sex. Nothing else. I didn't edit that. rolleyes I believe that bisexuality is as wrong as homosexuality. There ARE different kinds of love. And that's one of the things I'm debating. How else would the stupid #######'s get there if I originally have the word "#######"? You went back and changed it to type in the stupid #. That's called editing somebody else posts. No matter how much of it you do. But you know, whatever. And read my other post. I didn't edit it!!!!!! I have a system on my computer that does that.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:00 pm
Kyle Riley kuntrykid 2. stressed I'm debating that homosexuals don't actually love each other.
I take that to offence...
It doesn't matter if you don't agree with our beliefs. You have no right to say I can't possibly love the person I do love.
~ I Love Tommy ~ I'm sorry but I don't know a less rude way to say it. I'm just saying that I don't believe you can love another male.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:01 pm
[colored.rain] Kyle Riley kuntrykid 2. stressed I'm debating that homosexuals don't actually love each other.
I take that to offence...
It doesn't matter if you don't agree with our beliefs. You have no right to say I can't possibly love the person I do love.
~ I Love Tommy ~  You are my one and only love
I also take that to offense.
How could you say that the love for the same sex
is not real? I honestly don't get how a person could be
so close minded.
I'm happily in love with my girlfriend.
Are you saying that my emotions are not real?
The one I treasure most I'm saying that I don't think you're in love, I think you're in like.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:12 pm
~Demonic Muffin~ You are contradicting yourself and telling people that they're form of love and their beliefs are wrong left and right, and I'm getting tired of it. =/ Keep it up and you'll be asked to stay out of this forum for a bit. So you're wanting to kick me out of the debate forum... for debating?
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:15 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:17 pm
yusono [ Oh well now you have just went into illogical babble Kuntry Kid.
Here is some info. Love is actually a chemcial thing that happens to humans when it happens. It's much like other chemical things that happen to us, like depression, anxiety, and excitement. I personally don't like the fact that love is all chemical but it's true, there is studies and reports. In those studies and reports homosexuals have the same sensory response was those who are hetrosexuals. Ergo they feel love too, because that's what love is: a chemical response.
A non scientific thing you can mentally chew on: Hetrosexuals do a lot of the same things that homosexuals do when they are in love. They feel the same thing. So if they have the same response, or show the same symptoms how can homosexuals not love each other.
I would really like it for you to present actual reasons why you think this, because what I have seen thus far was you just saying that they can't love each other. All I've seen is your view, not supported, and bible stuff.] I believe that "like" is a chemical thing but "love" is more. Even people who aren't in love can do the same things as those who aren't. It's kind of hard to provide actual reasons when dealing with the very complex human mind.
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