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Hmmmm....I see......well....HUZZAH then!

I cant remember for the life of me. Ive been going off memory with FFVII stuff in general for so long now its hard to remember everything.

Clotif has been blatantly stated a bunch of times. Cleris just don't like to listen when the words are right there in front of they're faces. You’re also totally wrong about the Koibit thing. Read the link I gave on the last page. Tifa is the lover, girlfriend, sweetheart, and it doesn't mater how many times you try to discredit it as platonic, you will always be wrong. They shouldn't have to mention that she's Cloud's lover, unless people too retarded to put two and two together.

I don't feel like getting into any debate right now...I just want to address one thing though......It's "Nibelheim" not "Nibelham". xd Sorry, I'm a grammar freak.

"There are many dimensions to Tifa's character. She's like a mother, a sweetheart, and a close ally in battle."
- Tetsuya Nomura

Alright, I'm not trying to get too involved in this since I've always been pretty neutral about the whole CloTi and Cleris thing, but I just wanted to point out that the underlined word in bold is very important to consider. I read the whole article and this would be the closest thing to backing up CloTi. Yet, it doesn't. The word "like" indicated that she resembles those things. It doesn't necessarily mean that she is all of those things, since everyone knows that she isn't a mother. She acts as a mother figure, but that doesn't make her an actual mother. I'm not shooting down CloTi and I'm not blindly putting my full support behind Cleris. I'm just giving me two cents, for all it's worth. Unless the word "like" was only being connected to the first trait, which is kind of hard to judge since the quote was only two lines, then there is no official proof that Tifa and Cloud are an actual item. If it is only being connected to "mother", then I'd say that Cloud and Tifa's relationship is a very quiet and slow one. That wouldn't be surprising anyway, since true relationships take a lot of time and commitment. I've spent a lot of time typing this already, so I'm going to stop so I don't go into completely random rants about nothing having to do with the current topic.

But since we're on the topic of that site, thanks for providing it; I had a lot of fun reading it. Is the book available in the US or do I have to order it online somewhere? I saw the part about it being in Japanese and English.

We should just force Nomura to get on here or something. However, people would flood his profile and inbox in an instant. xd Personally, I think they give quotes like that to make the fans think, since there is no "official" pairing. Maybe they do it because they enjoy the fans arguing and dueling to the death over it. The world may never know...

And since I'm not so tired anymore, I guess I could give some more input. Someone can be "like" a boyfriend/girlfriend just by how they act around someone. It's more commonly seen in high school, but there are still situations like that in the real world. Usually, it has to do with that small stage before you officially start going out. You know, like an unspoken or unofficial relationship. I think that Cloud and Tifa have something similar to that. You don't see them making out or hugging each other every other scene. Regardless of what their romantic status is, they care for each other and the respect is definitely there. At the very least, it's a very deep and loyal friendship.

So you say it....Nibel-ham? Hahaha. xd

Wow you just contradicted you're self again pink. Weren't you the one saying that Tifa was a bully and not Cloud's friend.

Look at that last sentence in this description. When their talking about Tifa being a friend it is in reference to the game. And who is the main character in DoC? Vincent.



Nothing really. I don't know why you're so adamant on the Barret thing anyway. Because Barret's living with them that means Cloud and Tifa can't be together romantically. That's just stupid.



Why would the have to mention the lover thing again when they already have. Not to mention that, again, DoC isn't Cloud and Tifa's game, it's Vincents game. Mentioning her love for Cloud that bio would be irrelevant and unnecessary since that's not what the game in-tails. Both her and Cloud are there to back up Vincent because they are his friends. If they weren't his friends then they wouldn't even be there in the first place.



And this little thing is supposed top support Cleris? LOL. So Cloud will never forget her, big deal, he wont forget Zack either.



As for the descriptions. The ones in the booklet for FF7 can't say anything about Tifa being anything more then a friend or else they would be giving away some of the games plot line. In the start of the game Tifa was just a friend but she became more toward the end.



I didn't make that sig that's the way it came when I found it.

"Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together. Everybody would be living back home where they belonged."
- Kazushige Nojima

To deny this would be denying official evidence from one of the creators. Notice, in the first sentence how it says "be" together and not live together. If it said only living together that would be platonic but he said be together.