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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:42 pm
How about have heads of house recommend a single person from each of their houses based on participation in guild affairs instead of biggest post count?
Have each head write up a brief summary on what made said people earn special attention, and sit down and discuss who wins the cookie. If the heads can't agree on which one was THE best, draw a lot to decide which of the best of the best actually wins.
Also, thanks for announcing the rules, though if you could sticky the feedback and delete/slash move the old stuff, that'd be keen.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:58 pm
I think that I like that...now we just need to get people to participate. My Ravenclaws have all but vanished lately...I just hope the new batch of Sortees helps out in that aspect.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:47 pm
ninja
Just dropping in...
Top Poster:
Well, I'm not sure what you guys have been doing for the top poster (I used to just keep a record of it, so that person could feel extra spiffy about themselves). But, if you think about it, a good deal of the time when someone writes one response at a time it means they're on more frequently. (or at least that is what I would do). If you can get on only around a certain time of the day, then it makes sense to just put all your responses together. But a person who is on more frequently will have a wider chance of talking to a wider variety of members on a more conversational level and less of a sending letters in the mail level (if that makes any sense...). Also, I think that when I leave little posts (which, admittedly isn't really that often) it's usually because I'm there and I'm paying attention, I just can't think of anything to say. I want the people in the conversation to know I'm paying attention and that they aren't alone in their thoughts. As to spam, it sounds like you need a Filtch more than you need to get rid of the top-poster spot. Spamming (including playing games incorrectly) is not supposed to be allowed in the guild, I do believe the rule was that you would get a warning and if you continued you would be banned. (It's hard to get the top-poster's spot if you've been banned). Also, don't sell those who spend their time in Spinner's End so short. This isn't exactly just a place for Harry Maniacs to discuss Harry, it's a place where people who all enjoy the magical world that J.K. has invented can talk to each other and spend time together. We are all similar in some ways and the most obvious is Harry.
So I think that if you guys are giving out awards for activity, you should have both a top poster and a most active student. The most active student can be chosen by the head of that house and the head can take recommendations if a student/prefect/other head would like to give them. I do believe that in the H. Monthly I gave out awards for every issue to my writers. One was for the most words written for the issue. I'm pretty sure that one was called the "Chief Chatter" or maybe the "Big Blabber" or something... well... you could do just that. The Chief Chatter would be the most active and the big blabber would be the most posts. I just don't like things that depend on other's interaction. I love the idea of being as democratic as possible, but waiting for the a response from people who did not volunteer for the job in order to make a decision had just always ended in stress an tears for me when working with this guild... and most other aspects of life, actually.
Of course I don't expect anyone to take my thoughts to heart, I just thought I'd give my input on the topic...
3nodding
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:42 am
Uhm hello this is a place to ask right question question question
I wanna ask, where or what is the subforum that we can talk about daily life or about HP or a place we can talk about fun things, cause i cant find it ???
Once more i want to inform that spinner ends is full with house elf trying to sum their post, most of the latest post have the same name and there some people who answer it wrong (accidentally or not) and just continue it after jadams or my friend movie tell him/her, movie say she will pm iceewitch about this, but i think i'll post it here so more staff will hear it, so is there something that could be done, cause this guild suppose to be fun right to relieved from our stress question question question
And about sorting hat, i've got a friend (i cant tell you) who is sorted into the house he/she hate, then after he/she complaint and didnt sorted into the house he/she preferred he/she just didnt post again, i think resorted is a good one, but it's so not right, it's like you cant choose teacher for a class, but still try hard to get A right. (sorry about my grammar redface )
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:49 am
Question: Are we keeping that Hogwarts Express or deleting it? I say delete it because it wasn't used that much. (Of course that's my fault because I accidentally deleted the Coming to Hogwarts train)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:57 am
PhilbertTenderbean How about have heads of house recommend a single person from each of their houses based on participation in guild affairs instead of biggest post count? Have each head write up a brief summary on what made said people earn special attention, and sit down and discuss who wins the cookie. If the heads can't agree on which one was THE best, draw a lot to decide which of the best of the best actually wins. Also, thanks for announcing the rules, though if you could sticky the feedback and delete/slash move the old stuff, that'd be keen. I like that idea also. It's soemthing I've been thinking about but the only problem with that would be this: Some people don't participate in events, but they participate in discussions. Leaving it to only events or common rooms leaves out a lot of people who post elsewhere in the guild. Next term we nee to concentrate on getting members to chat with one another in the common rooms and other places. However for the time being, how will we weed that stuff out? I like your idea and it's defintely something we can start using now, and update it as we move on. Quidditch: It's done. Last time I ran out of time and had to leave, but I did it just now. I also updated the name of the subforum. Obviously for the next two weeks I can't play a real big role in anything. Some things that are listed in my duties may not be performed and I apologize in advance for it. Speaking on updates: I need a moderator (Love, perhaps?) to update the Entrance Hall. Not everything needs to be updated, only class lists (HoHs, prefects, and DHs) and teachers and stuff like that. If you aren't sure what to do then don't fret about it or PM me for more information.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:00 am
KT's idea fits better, and it makes more sense. It's kinda like the MVP award in basketball.
Time is short for me and I want to answer Hana's post so if you guys continue discussion on this I'll pop in tomorrow and offer more in-depth insight! (I plan to be present in the guilds for at least an hour tomorrow!)
EDIT: With every question something else comes up. So I want to propose this: Once term is started and moving along how about we work on two levels of Clean Up? One level will be the Banning processes and memberslist redo similiar to what happened this summer. The other level will be strictly for guild updates (threads and such) and cleanup. I know it seems redundant but when we are only focusing on those two things it'll seem a whole lot easier. However don't stop working on the changes you're working on now.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:13 am
Hana Milova Uhm hello this is a place to ask right question question question I wanna ask, where or what is the subforum that we can talk about daily life or about HP or a place we can talk about fun things, cause i cant find it ??? Once more i want to inform that spinner ends is full with house elf trying to sum their post, most of the latest post have the same name and there some people who answer it wrong (accidentally or not) and just continue it after jadams or my friend movie tell him/her, movie say she will pm iceewitch about this, but i think i'll post it here so more staff will hear it, so is there something that could be done, cause this guild suppose to be fun right to relieved from our stress question question question And about sorting hat, i've got a friend (i cant tell you) who is sorted into the house he/she hate, then after he/she complaint and didnt sorted into the house he/she preferred he/she just didnt post again, i think resorted is a good one, but it's so not right, it's like you cant choose teacher for a class, but still try hard to get A right. (sorry about my grammar redface )
Yes. (Sometimes the moderators discuss big issues in the guild here too though) The subforum you are referring to is the Heard it in the Hallway subforum (Discussion). We realized our rules were a bit strict, and also that since the series was over there wouldn't be too many more HP topics that people weren't bored about to discuss. The rules have been updated, so when you visit that subforum please read the Annoucement there. Also random posts about Daily Life should be directed here. It's our Off-Topic Chat thread. Any other questions you have about subforums can be answered in Post Four of the Entrance HallNot sure if I understand but if I am right you're complaining about spam right? Spam can consists of posting in a thread and not following the rules of that thread. If it's spam you're complaining about then please PM me the name of the member, as well as a link to the spam posts. Re-sorting is not an option. If that member didn't try to make the best of the situation then that's not good. Sorting shouldn't be about the houses' reputation. Get to know the members in the house before decisions such as those are made. If your friend's problem was with a specific member or such, then it could have been reported to Professor_Adonis.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:00 pm
IceeWitch For next tem will anyone mind if we opened up the Teacher Feedback (and Term award) thing? I still need to make some last minute modifications though. PhilbertTenderbean ... In the above circumstances, does Jim get 5 post counts added? Does he get 20 more for agreeing to any and all discussions without actually giving any input at all? rocket zombie I'm one of those who don't contribute much either though, but it's hard to just continually talk about Harry Potter as much as I do love the series. Plus i'm a perfectionist, so if I have a fact or something wrong I feel incredibly stupid. :'x PhilbertTenderbean We're also holding a practice game right now, and everyone is invited to play. All heads of house are considered captains for this practice game, so if you haven't read up on the rules yet, I recommend you do so that you can post when it's a captain's turn! Hana Milova Uhm hello this is a place to ask right question question question I wanna ask, where or what is the subforum that we can talk about daily life or about HP or a place we can talk about fun things, cause i cant find it ??? Hana Milova Once more i want to inform that spinner ends is full with house elf trying to sum their post, most of the latest post have the same name and there some people who answer it wrong (accidentally or not) and just continue it after jadams or my friend movie tell him/her, movie say she will pm iceewitch about this, but i think i'll post it here so more staff will hear it, so is there something that could be done, cause this guild suppose to be fun right to relieved from our stress question question question Hana Milova And about sorting hat, i've got a friend (i cant tell you) who is sorted into the house he/she hate, then after he/she complaint and didnt sorted into the house he/she preferred he/she just didnt post again, i think resorted is a good one, but it's so not right, it's like you cant choose teacher for a class, but still try hard to get A right. (sorry about my grammar redface ) IceeWitch Question: Are we keeping that Hogwarts Express or deleting it? I say delete it because it wasn't used that much. (Of course that's my fault because I accidentally deleted the Coming to Hogwarts train)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:41 pm
About the new teachers: Stricter guidelines? Perhaps. Deny all first-years the post of teacher? Perhaps not.
Sometimes a person, first year or not, has a decent grasp on some subject in the HP world and the ability to share it in a clear and timely manner...that person should be given the opportunity to do so. Not all first-years are going to be completely ignorant, or utter slackers in updating classes.
Besides, at the current activity rates first years are going to be most of those active. Limiting the range sort of limits our choices.
Could we take teachers on a case-by-case basis at least for this term? Perhaps implement a sort of PM'd interview between a Mod and an applicant if there are slight doubts or if it's a new teacher to get a more candid, in-depth idea of what they're planning.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:37 pm
Yeah, I just want to get a better idea about the teachers because I don't want to see anymore house points being removed because a teacher didn't do their job.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:06 pm
I didn't like seeing that, either.
Perhaps we should put a 'safety net' in there. Once a teacher loses a set number of points due to continual non-updates, their classroom is immediately shut down so no more points may be lost.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:28 pm
Alutian Angilwingz Alutian Angilwingz IceeWitch For next term will anyone mind if we opened up the Teacher Feedback (and Term award) thing? I still need to make some last minute modifications though.
Sometimes a person, first year or not, has a decent grasp on some subject in the HP world and the ability to share it in a clear and timely manner...that person should be given the opportunity to do so. Not all first-years are going to be completely ignorant, or utter slackers in updating classes.
Besides, at the current activity rates first years are going to be most of those active. Limiting the range sort of limits our choices.
Could we take teachers on a case-by-case basis at least for this term? Perhaps implement a sort of PM'd interview between a Mod and an applicant if there are slight doubts or if it's a new teacher to get a more candid, in-depth idea of what they're planning.
Perhaps we should put a 'safety net' in there. Once a teacher loses a set number of points due to continual non-updates, their classroom is immediately shut down so no more points may be lost.
Not sure what you're talking about for loosing points. I can't even think of a way that students could loose points in a class from the teacher being flaky... get jipped, maybe... Anyways, I thought we thought up some requirements for teachers a little before I went missing??? Or maybe it was just on my 'To-Do' list... sweatdrop I could have sworn we at least discussed it... But as to first-year teachers: I can't help but agree that it isn't fair that they teach when they haven't even taken any classes. (unless they took their house elf classes...) And no matter what the year, you never know who will end up a good teacher and who wont. Every new teacher is a gamble. Personally, I think you should need to be a second year or higher, but who knows what the results of that could be. Are you guys still using the application in the staff room?
Angilwingz Hana Milova Once more i want to inform that spinner ends is full with house elf trying to sum their post, most of the latest post have the same name and there some people who answer it wrong (accidentally or not) and just continue it after jadams or my friend movie tell him/her, movie say she will pm iceewitch about this, but i think I'll post it here so more staff will hear it, so is there something that could be done, cause this guild suppose to be fun right to relieved from our stress question question question
And if there's a bit of an spamademic breaking out, come back. If that's the case, then we probably need to find ourselves a new Games Keeper; Survivor isn't around anymore... sweatdrop
IceeWitch Hana Milova And about sorting hat, I've got a friend (i cant tell you) who is sorted into the house he/she hate, then after he/she complaint and didn't sorted into the house he/she preferred he/she just didn't post again, i think resorted is a good one, but it's so not right, it's like you cant choose teacher for a class, but still try hard to get A right. (sorry about my grammar redface ) Re-sorting is not an option. If that member didn't try to make the best of the situation then that's not good. Sorting shouldn't be about the houses' reputation. Get to know the members in the house before decisions such as those are made. If your friend's problem was with a specific member or such, then it could have been reported to Professor_Adonis.
sweatdrop I was re-sorted...well actually transferred, from Ravenclaw. If a person starts out seeming to fit in one house and then slowly finds they might be happier in another house, I think there should be steps that person can take to switch. I don't agree that someone can switch just because they didn't get their preferred house (especially if it's because that's who they want to be rather than who they really are). I think there should regulations, example: the person has to stick it out for at least one term, they have to get their Head's permission/approval, the permission/approval from the Head of the House they want to switch to, and maybe even a referral from another mod or member of one or both of the two houses being switched in and out of.
I am glad Angil is putting the house questions back in. There used to be two questions; Which house would you least like to be in and why? & Which house would you most like to be in and why? That way we can take the person's preferences into account. I find that people don't get nearly as upset about not being in a certain house so long as it's not the one they really didn't want to be in. Hehe...this makes me think of a comic Angil made for the H.Monthly... whee
Remember this Angil?  Oh, and Demarest stayed around for a good long while... 3nodding Angilwingz IceeWitch Question: Are we keeping that Hogwarts Express or deleting it? I say delete it because it wasn't used that much. (Of course that's my fault because I accidentally deleted the Coming to Hogwarts train)
^That was the original plan for the Hogwarts Express...It was a transition thread, something to make it a bit easier for the mods to set up the next semester, we didn't want to have to make anything more complicated than it already was, and I thought it would have been cool to keep a copy of the avi's of everyone who was there and putting it in a "past trips" post so that we could see how we've all changed... 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:46 pm
ninja
...I think that it would be cool if we started doing Chocolate Frog Cards...
3nodding
I can already think, off the top of my head, of a fairly long list of people to put on them:
Pinkie
[Shorty]
(the past heads)
RubyRays
Dragons375
Marllie
Reese_Roper
Eowuclya
Celestial
Me
(the recent heads)
Adonis
Icee
Angil
Miss Love Tantei
Alutian
Juni
(other popular/important/loyal people)
DevilsDarkAngil
Grey_Temerity
& Iviticus_88
mystic_emerald
Animekitty47
Volupuous_Jon
GeoStorm
Daine Salmalin
redpopsicles
Queeneb
animefreak
Charlie
RayneFlower
Maybe Hope and Figgy
And I know more have been made since I've been gone...
3nodding
I think it would be really neat...
no idea where it would go...
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:45 pm
@KT: In regards to the teacher/loss of point issue, last term we took away points from teacher's houses if they weren't updating their classes. It was supposed to be an incentive for teachers to get with the program, because after the first week of term, barely any classes had anything up.
Thought-bubble, I think it would be much better to propose the idea of having backup teachers, I talked about this with Icee once, I think. Instead of saying "Such and such class position has been filled" perhaps we can allow multiple apps for one class. First come first serve. However if the first teacher proves stagnant, teacher two can jump in and get the ball rolling.
Also... could you people quit talking about opening up the discussion forum? I already updated the rules there over a week ago, its just that nobody's been taking advantage of it *taps foot expectantly* stare
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