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 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:28 pm
ah ok. sounds fair.
but i feel like it makes sense. confused it's kind of the same reason i won't eat goat meat. i absolutely hate the smell...makes me want to vomit (no disrespect though sweatdrop i'm not trying to be a jerk celest smile )
meh. it's relative. i think it makes perfect sense, you don't. it's fair. carry on then. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:28 pm
You guys have strayed so far off topic it's... interesting. Not everyone can follow every single rule of religion. So why should we not be able to practice what we can in this changing and evolving world. Religion, many of them, promote thought, love, kindness, all the wonderful ideals that should be practiced more. That's the point of having a religion, other religions are different though. If we sin in the Catholic religion, we aren't following the Bible now are we, but hey, we're still Catholic, then we go to Confession. It's all good in the neighborhood.
Ehehe...
Please get back on topic or change your thread title.
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Jafthasleftthebuilding Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:31 pm
Jaft Please get back on topic or change your thread title. THE JAFT HAS SPOKEN!
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:31 pm
Jaft You guys have strayed so far off topic it's... interesting. Not everyone can follow every single rule of religion. So why should we not be able to practice what we can in this changing and evolving world. Religion, many of them, promote thought, love, kindness, all the wonderful ideals that should be practiced more. That's the point of having a religion, other religions are different though. If we sin in the Catholic religion, we aren't following the Bible now are we, but hey, we're still Catholic, then we go to Confession. It's all good in the neighborhood. Ehehe... Please get back on topic or change your thread title. "Petty religious squabbles" it is ¬_¬. Right. I got my answer a few pages back. And the other party has resorted to starting posts with "******** you". There's not really much more to do, I think. Then again, I could well be wrong.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:31 pm
why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused
i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused
maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:33 pm
~lizzerde~ why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food. Touchy subject. Hence, the crusades. What a bunch of losers we were back then.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:33 pm
Ascott The-Mut-Cat Ascott The-Mut-Cat Ascott The-Mut-Cat I don't react well to some vegetarians... I, myself, beleive that all animals and people are equal... Therefore, we are all game on the scale of the food-chain. There was a girl I knew (not very bright, imo) who became vegetarian because of the videos and stuff she saw online... A lot of them made by the PETA (never liked them)... So I have for a while associated vegetarianism (veganism, especially...) with her... an instant aversion to the idea >_< I'd need more of an explaination on the health-reasons... :/ you can get the same balance of benefits and complications no matter which diet you choose... Cept the "raw foods" diet... that's just funny! Yeah, that's my stance, more or less. Wasn't it you who said "humans are at the top of the food chain"? Yep, we're at the top. If an animal lower down on it thinks it can eat me, it's welcome to try. It might succeed. If so, it doesn't mean that humans as a species are any less low on the food chain; just that the bear/wolf/pig got lucky. ok... is that based on your religious beleifs, or what? What religion are you? Partially on the idea that we're inherently superior; partially on the idea that it took 50,000 or so years of evolution to get to this point, and that we owe it to our ancestors to be the ones eating the other animals. so we inherited superiority? even though, today, I doubt many humans could hunt and kill "prey" even with the aid of hunting tools, while wild animals do it without any technological help...
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:35 pm
~lizzerde~ why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food. No, Lizz, you're right. They way the discussion was carried on was completely irrelevent to the topic. I made a point about my religion stating why some witches were vegtarians, that's it. however, when he started telling sanzo what religion she could and could not follow he took things too far I think. I really don't think there is much left to discuss here.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:36 pm
~lizzerde~ why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food. Eh, I kind of see the relevance, but it didn't need to take over like that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:36 pm
Ascott Jaft You guys have strayed so far off topic it's... interesting. Not everyone can follow every single rule of religion. So why should we not be able to practice what we can in this changing and evolving world. Religion, many of them, promote thought, love, kindness, all the wonderful ideals that should be practiced more. That's the point of having a religion, other religions are different though. If we sin in the Catholic religion, we aren't following the Bible now are we, but hey, we're still Catholic, then we go to Confession. It's all good in the neighborhood. Ehehe... Please get back on topic or change your thread title. "Petty religious squabbles" it is ¬_¬. Right. I got my answer a few pages back. And the other party has resorted to starting posts with "******** you". There's not really much more to do, I think. Then again, I could well be wrong. *sigh* ok, lets try to clean this thread up man. 3nodding lets start with: - not making more reference to sensative topics such as religion EXCEPT for their direct relevance to the topic of vegetarianism. - lets atleast TRY to consider the points people have brought up. i know it doesn't make much sense to you but try to think as if you're using their minds. think of the importance of what they're saying to them. maybe then it'll make sense. - lets let people have their opinions and be respectful in answering them... and as you have been trying... just try hard to be a bit nicer about it. - maybe we can get duel appologies from both sides and continue? 3nodding those are my thoughts as to how to bring this thing back on track. obviously not everyone's going to agree or listen to me, but it's worth a shot.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:36 pm
Celestial Burden ~lizzerde~ why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food. No, Lizz, you're right. They way the discussion was carried on was completely irrelevent to the topic. I made a point about my religion stating why some witches were vegtarians, that's it. however, when he started telling sanzo what religion she could and could not follow he took things too far I think. I really don't think there is much left to discuss here. In that case, can we just lock the topic?
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:37 pm
"Chi-chik."
*Jaft busts out his Mod Rifle*
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Jafthasleftthebuilding Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:37 pm
The-Mut-Cat Ascott The-Mut-Cat Ascott The-Mut-Cat Wasn't it you who said "humans are at the top of the food chain"? Yep, we're at the top. If an animal lower down on it thinks it can eat me, it's welcome to try. It might succeed. If so, it doesn't mean that humans as a species are any less low on the food chain; just that the bear/wolf/pig got lucky. ok... is that based on your religious beleifs, or what? What religion are you? Partially on the idea that we're inherently superior; partially on the idea that it took 50,000 or so years of evolution to get to this point, and that we owe it to our ancestors to be the ones eating the other animals. so we inherited superiority? even though, today, I doubt many humans could hunt and kill "prey" even with the aid of hunting tools, while wild animals do it without any technological help... We invented those weapons. We have a right to use them. Yes. We inherited superiority through X-many thousand years of our species struggling to survive. Now, we're on top.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:38 pm
Jaft "Chi-chik." *Jaft busts out his Mod Rifle* KILL IT! *ducks out of thread*
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:39 pm
Ascott ~lizzerde~ why is it that religon is always sucked into heated discussions? confused i mean i know it's a legitimate discussion point here... but the way it's been discussed has had almost no relation to the topic of foods people choose not to eat. confused maybe i'm blind to it. but i don't see any relevance of the heated arguments on religious aspects to food. Touchy subject. Hence, the crusades. What a bunch of losers we were back then. huh? sweatdrop sorry but you've managed to confuse me (not a hard task, i assure you sweatdrop ) *to indy* yeah.... my point exactly. *to celest* damn right. i agree. but alas, can we not try to make a fresh start and do a bit of forgiving? 3nodding (this was directed at EVERYONE)
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