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 Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:02 pm
Se Ga Takai the eggs and bunnies are a throwback to the pagan origins of Easter. It was initially celebrated as a celebration of fertility(Spring Love, anyone?), and teh Eggs and Bnnies were selected as representative as that because, well, teh eggs are obvious, and teh only thing more reproductive than bunnies are Utah Mormons(though they weren't as well known back then) xd Most Christian Holidays actually carry Origins in Pagan Tradition, they were absorbed with the Culture back when Rome declared Christianity Religion #1. I thought something along those lines. Thanks for clarification..... and chocolate Jesuses....well....that would be interesting.... mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:21 am
DemigoddessHalfdemon Xairip Concerning Easter: Would you rather children bite of the heads of chocolate Jesuses? Hey, I distinctly remember a verse where He said "eat, this is my body." so it's communion and fun for the youngsters rolled into one! surprised
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:13 am
Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin!
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:16 pm
P-u-n-K-R-o-c-K-e-r Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin! That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye?
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:05 pm
PirateEire P-u-n-K-R-o-c-K-e-r Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin! That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell.
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:19 pm
i like burnination PirateEire That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:46 am
i like burnination PirateEire P-u-n-K-R-o-c-K-e-r Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin! That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell. Good thing your religious texts don't support the existence of the Hell (eternal damnation, burning forever, tortured non-stop bwaahh!!) that everyone popularly believes to exist, hm?
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:14 am
PirateEire i like burnination PirateEire P-u-n-K-R-o-c-K-e-r Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin! That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell. Good thing your religious texts don't support the existence of the Hell (eternal damnation, burning forever, tortured non-stop bwaahh!!) that everyone popularly believes to exist, hm? of course, because it's obvious that when Jesus speaks of a place where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched in Matthew, in the context of punishment of sins, He's clearly talking about something else. disregarding, of course, countless of other references to a lake of fire, outer darkness, etc.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:57 pm
i like burnination PirateEire i like burnination PirateEire P-u-n-K-R-o-c-K-e-r Rowena Marion Whether or not it should be legal and whether or not I agree with it are two entirely different things. I don't agree with gay marriage. I do think it should be legal, based on our constitution and my (albeit somewhat limited) knowledge of civil liberty and the pattern of granted rights in our history. THE US constitution is against discrimination....and telling two people they legally can't marry is discrimination. I can sit around until the cows come home thinking about how I believe they shouldn't, but I have no right to tell them they can't. No you cant tel them thay cant....god gave us freewill...but u can explan to the the scriptures of gods word and help them understand that god dose not alow it...and we should follow gods rules not the laws (on that note i mean Obaying the law and gods laws....because god says that breaking the law is a sin! That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell. Good thing your religious texts don't support the existence of the Hell (eternal damnation, burning forever, tortured non-stop bwaahh!!) that everyone popularly believes to exist, hm? of course, because it's obvious that when Jesus speaks of a place where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched in Matthew, in the context of punishment of sins, He's clearly talking about something else. disregarding, of course, countless of other references to a lake of fire, outer darkness, etc. Then you mean to say that Tartarus = Gehenna = Hades, none of which are firey pits where souls roast for eternity? Can you burn souls in a void of nothingness, or in a garbage burning place in a land of heathens?
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:21 pm
PirateEire i like burnination PirateEire i like burnination PirateEire That may be problematic for the non-Christian population, aye? so is Hell. Good thing your religious texts don't support the existence of the Hell (eternal damnation, burning forever, tortured non-stop bwaahh!!) that everyone popularly believes to exist, hm? of course, because it's obvious that when Jesus speaks of a place where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched in Matthew, in the context of punishment of sins, He's clearly talking about something else. disregarding, of course, countless of other references to a lake of fire, outer darkness, etc. Then you mean to say that Tartarus = Gehenna = Hades, none of which are firey pits where souls roast for eternity? Can you burn souls in a void of nothingness, or in a garbage burning place in a land of heathens? well, actually all three are not the same, but they are parts of the afterlife, two of them specfically for the ungodly. many consider Hades to be a place of darkness that unbelievers go to now, but it is not neccessarily Hell (Gehenna). this is actually a matter of debate, as i have read websites writing that Tartarus is a general term for the afterlife, since Acts says Jesus went into Hades, whereas Luke reports Christ telling the thief that today he would be with Him in Paradise. the Greek word in Luke is paradiso, which is clearly not Hades, so i don't know how they can make a connection. it could be possible that Christ went into Hades, and then went into Paradise with the thief. anyway, Tartarus could possibly be a more specific realm of Hades, such as a place for the fallen angels/demons. right now, the fallen angels are not suffering torment, because that won't happen until after Christ comes again. Gehenna, while a transliteration of the ravine where fallen Jews would sacrifice their children, was known quite well by Jesus' audience to be a place of torment. saying that it refers to the place alone is like saying that the battle of Armageddon will occur exactly at Megiddo. obviously, the Jewish audience knew differently, therefore Christ would not have confused them by referring merely to the place. i think i made myself clear. i'm a little sick (laryngitis! D smile so try and bear with me. please point out anywhere where i was unclear or where i didn't explain something enough. whee btw, this is getting off-topic, so if you'd like i'll make another topic.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:35 pm
Naw, we can go back on topic.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:55 am
okay ... umm ...
gay people shouldn't force their beliefs on us. :]
also, i have question for ya Ter.
why exactly do you want to get married?
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:48 am
i like burnination okay ... umm ... gay people shouldn't force their beliefs on us. :] also, i have question for ya Ter. why exactly do you want to get married? How is gay marriage being legal the gay community "forcing" their beliefs on us? It's the bible thumpers who are forcing their beliefs on the gay community. All gay people want is for us to acknowledge that they are people too, and have the same rights that straight people do.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:57 pm
i like burnination okay ... umm ... gay people shouldn't force their beliefs on us. :] also, i have question for ya Ter. why exactly do you want to get married? Hardly forcing our beliefs on the straight community. It's not like we're grabbing random men off the street and forcing you to marry them. You may as well have said that ending segregation was forcing the beliefs of non-racists on the prejudiced white community back in the day. Why do I want to get married? Same reason any man and woman would want to get married--I'm in love. Marriage to me has always been wholly unreligious. Hell, my "Catholic" parents married in a courthouse, avoiding any of the religious things associated with it. I think it is more social than it is religious--and it's just one of those things you do at some point in your life if you feel it's right for you. I've been with my girlfriend for four years now. I know people who married who have known eachother for a much shorter time, and who seem infinitely more disfunctional and much less intimate than my girlfriend and I. Not trying to get married to prove a point or anything. I just want to--and the fact that I am denied the right to is an obstacle in obtaining this desire. Not to generalize here, but Satanists don't take kindly to being denied their desires. twisted Reasons I personally want to get married are as follows: Marriage seems to be more binding than long-long-long term dating. I wish to spend the rest of my life with my lover.
My girlfriend was raised in a low-income family, and she is still using the low-rate terrible quality state allowances for things like health insurance. My job offers a wonderful plan, and I wish to claim her as a dependant, legally.
Once she graduates from college, I would like to live with her for the absolute rest of my life. She makes me happier than life itself, and life makes me pretty damn happy. mrgreen 'n stuff. Now your turn. Why don't you want me to get married? Why do you care about how I spend the rest of my life?
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