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 Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:23 pm
Grumpy Giygas Snatch Steal Monster Reborn Premature Burial Graceful Charity Pot of Greed Upstart Goblin Upstart Goblin Upstart Goblin Dark Hole Chaos Emporer Dragon - Envoy of the End Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning Cyber Dragon Cyber Dragon Smashing Ground 14 of the remaining cards in my deck. Assuming that was my opening hand, I have 34 cards left in deck. Two of those won't be useful, so 12 possible cards. That's 1/3rd of my deck, and any good Yata Lock focused deck. Or I'll just draw Tribe Infecting Virus Snipe Hunter Mystic Tomato Thunder King Rai-Oh Thunder King Rai-Oh Even MORE s**t I'd use to dominate you. Yes, deserves to win. Say you're playing chess. You capture all but their Rook and King and you have seven Pawns, two Rooks, a Queen, a Bishop, a Knight, and your King. You have Checkmate in One. Would it be fair if your opponent used Raigeki and destroyed all but your King for game? No, no it would not. umm excuse me i dont believe chess made a piece called raigeki as to where yugioh indeed did make a card and people were allowed to use it. and i think they should be still. and if they did ide say it got very interesting lol
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:23 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE armycat jockamoe SOLIDNSNAKE armycat jockamoe SOLIDNSNAKE Grumpy Giygas If you're running Broww, you will lose anyway. I'd lead with Forceful Sentry, and save me from any of that. Spectacular move? That's horrid. Absolutely horrid. You assuming that I think you have NORMAL MONSTERS in Traditional is laughable. I AM assuming you'd be running a good deck though. Which, given how you keep replying with off the wall, wouldn't be run in traditional crap, you're obviously not. You'd lose regardless of what I have in my hand with s**t like that. God damn. EDIT: If you can't understand why things are banned, you should stop playing yugioh. Seriously. Go out and play something else, like Checkers. Seriously, PLAY ME with traditional. I will OBLITERATE you 100% of the time because you don't understand how card advantage works and how it is the fundamental structure of the game. Play me in advanced and I'd crush you there too. probably. i dont claim to be an amazing duelist and i dont claim to know everything. and as for army cat. i didnt want to start a gaint arguement all i did was say i dont see why these cards are banned and they act like i commit a great sin like f*ck god or something like that. (i do but not in this thread. but thats off topic) i mean your gave me the most sensible reasoning but it didnt help i still dont see why these cards NEED to be banned Alright I'll try to make this as simple as possible... You have a field of five backrow and five monsters: end turn. I draw... Harpies Feather Duster, and Raigeki. I used to cards to get rid of ten of yours. A two for eight. Does that seem fair? Does that seem skillful? No, it's broken one sided advantage gain. That's why we need these cards banned. seems like they just evened up they playing field and make it possible for them to attack. seems smart and good to me. may not be skillfull but neither are six samurais lol I see our problem, we all think from a competitive standpoint about what is and isn't fair; and that what does doesn't promote skill in the game should be banned. Don't ever use Six Samurai in an argument like this again. What deck do you play? well thank you for asking to be honest im generally changing it up quite a bit i dont have money for some of the newer cards (yet i try to buy at the very least the starter decks) umm decks i do want to run from what ive seen plants ojamas (i heard they are gonna come out with new ones) im interested in blackwings exodia with almost infinite draw(heart of the underdog WOOT) i heard infirnaties are crazy. but thats off topic the current deck im using doesnt have a theme its just an assortment of cards really. its run pretty well while duelign with my friends though Ok so you have a list of decks you want to play, all tier two or lower. Let me ask about one of these. Do you feel infernity has any broken cards? If no please explain why. Also your current deck is a pile you use with friends. See you don't play in a way that you grasp the banlist as we do. Just sate my curiosity here what do you think of each of these cards? Dark Magician of Chaos Chaos Emperor Dragon-Envoy of the End Heavy Storm Brain Control Rescue Cat Imperial Order Exchange of the Spirit
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:25 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Bakuram Cards NEED to be banned/limited/semi-limited in order to make the game more balanced and to keep production steady, if the game wasn't balanced(since EVERYONE will most likely be running the same broken decks as Grumpy mentioned), then it wouldn't be fun anymore. If it wasn't fun anymore, then people wouldn't buy anymore cards also card production would stop to a screeching halt, therefore the company would lose money, so on and so forth to down a spiraling down-trod to bankruptcy and gay. ehh i doubt it come to a halt. people do indeed like collecting (i like both collecting and playing) so it could be bought to collect liek baseball cards...or could you play with those to...i forget Dude, at the rate cards are being sold and traded, the likelihood of them being collected are practically nil. Don't say if the game ends people will still collect them cuz that's a load of bunk, they'll be nothing more than worthless pieces of cardboard to pick your teeth with..
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:32 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Grumpy Giygas Snatch Steal Monster Reborn Premature Burial Graceful Charity Pot of Greed Upstart Goblin Upstart Goblin Upstart Goblin Dark Hole Chaos Emporer Dragon - Envoy of the End Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning Cyber Dragon Cyber Dragon Smashing Ground 14 of the remaining cards in my deck. Assuming that was my opening hand, I have 34 cards left in deck. Two of those won't be useful, so 12 possible cards. That's 1/3rd of my deck, and any good Yata Lock focused deck. Or I'll just draw Tribe Infecting Virus Snipe Hunter Mystic Tomato Thunder King Rai-Oh Thunder King Rai-Oh Even MORE s**t I'd use to dominate you. Yes, deserves to win. Say you're playing chess. You capture all but their Rook and King and you have seven Pawns, two Rooks, a Queen, a Bishop, a Knight, and your King. You have Checkmate in One. Would it be fair if your opponent used Raigeki and destroyed all but your King for game? No, no it would not. umm excuse me i dont believe chess made a piece called raigeki as to where yugioh indeed did make a card and people were allowed to use it. and i think they should be still. and if they did ide say it got very interesting lol Dude, you are so ******** retarded. God damn, ******** get out, I'm ******** done with you. I tried, we all did. Get out of my guild. You're poison.
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Delta Four Sicilian Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:33 pm
armycat jockamoe SOLIDNSNAKE armycat jockamoe SOLIDNSNAKE armycat jockamoe Alright I'll try to make this as simple as possible... You have a field of five backrow and five monsters: end turn. I draw... Harpies Feather Duster, and Raigeki. I used to cards to get rid of ten of yours. A two for eight. Does that seem fair? Does that seem skillful? No, it's broken one sided advantage gain. That's why we need these cards banned. seems like they just evened up they playing field and make it possible for them to attack. seems smart and good to me. may not be skillfull but neither are six samurais lol I see our problem, we all think from a competitive standpoint about what is and isn't fair; and that what does doesn't promote skill in the game should be banned. Don't ever use Six Samurai in an argument like this again. What deck do you play? well thank you for asking to be honest im generally changing it up quite a bit i dont have money for some of the newer cards (yet i try to buy at the very least the starter decks) umm decks i do want to run from what ive seen plants ojamas (i heard they are gonna come out with new ones) im interested in blackwings exodia with almost infinite draw(heart of the underdog WOOT) i heard infirnaties are crazy. but thats off topic the current deck im using doesnt have a theme its just an assortment of cards really. its run pretty well while duelign with my friends though Ok so you have a list of decks you want to play, all tier two or lower. Let me ask about one of these. Do you feel infernity has any broken cards? If no please explain why. Also your current deck is a pile you use with friends. See you don't play in a way that you grasp the banlist as we do. Just sate my curiosity here what do you think of each of these cards? Dark Magician of Chaos Chaos Emperor Dragon-Envoy of the End Heavy Storm Brain Control Rescue Cat Imperial Order Exchange of the Spirit i dont know anything about infernitys i said i heard they were crazy sure dark magician of chaos - great card. i love it weather its used against me or if im using it (traded mine for white stone of legend) see no problem with chaos emporer dragon. my friend used that card for his set up with yata lock. it was fun heavy storm reminds me of dark hole just with magic and traps. no problem with that. brain control seems like a more complex version of change of heart. rescue kitty has become more beast since sychros came out imperial order seems fun...I SUMMON JINZO , USE AMPLIFIER USE IMPERIAL ORDER....AHHH MY BRAINS exchange of spirit- isis used that on kaiba if i remember correctly.lol yugioh abridged EXCHANGE OF SPIRIT... exchange of what now?!?!?! as for its effect. pretty good i play usedin ban cards and i cant say ive seen a card used on me that i thought "GASP O NOEZ THIS CARD SHOULD NEVER BE USED EVER!!!!"
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:33 pm
*sniffs around* I think I smell, a troll..hmmmmm...
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:34 pm
Bakuram SOLIDNSNAKE Bakuram Cards NEED to be banned/limited/semi-limited in order to make the game more balanced and to keep production steady, if the game wasn't balanced(since EVERYONE will most likely be running the same broken decks as Grumpy mentioned), then it wouldn't be fun anymore. If it wasn't fun anymore, then people wouldn't buy anymore cards also card production would stop to a screeching halt, therefore the company would lose money, so on and so forth to down a spiraling down-trod to bankruptcy and gay. ehh i doubt it come to a halt. people do indeed like collecting (i like both collecting and playing) so it could be bought to collect liek baseball cards...or could you play with those to...i forget Dude, at the rate cards are being sold and traded, the likelihood of them being collected are practically nil. Don't say if the game ends people will still collect them cuz that's a load of bunk, they'll be nothing more than worthless pieces of cardboard to pick your teeth with.. zatch bell card game stopped and i still collect those. as well as the old DBZ card game (couldnt understand it for the life of me though)
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:36 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Bakuram SOLIDNSNAKE Bakuram Cards NEED to be banned/limited/semi-limited in order to make the game more balanced and to keep production steady, if the game wasn't balanced(since EVERYONE will most likely be running the same broken decks as Grumpy mentioned), then it wouldn't be fun anymore. If it wasn't fun anymore, then people wouldn't buy anymore cards also card production would stop to a screeching halt, therefore the company would lose money, so on and so forth to down a spiraling down-trod to bankruptcy and gay. ehh i doubt it come to a halt. people do indeed like collecting (i like both collecting and playing) so it could be bought to collect liek baseball cards...or could you play with those to...i forget Dude, at the rate cards are being sold and traded, the likelihood of them being collected are practically nil. Don't say if the game ends people will still collect them cuz that's a load of bunk, they'll be nothing more than worthless pieces of cardboard to pick your teeth with.. zatch bell card game stopped and i still collect those. as well as the old DBZ card game (couldnt understand it for the life of me though) Then I suggest you stop, those cards are most likely as useless as previously stated, you're wasting your money dude. Spend it on buying current packs or cards to help you..
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:35 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:39 pm
sleep it off like a bad hangover.. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:48 pm
I flat out could not take him anymore. He's gone, he won't plague us again.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:55 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE when it comes to the ban list i personally dont like many cards being on there at all! like raigeki and stuff. like i understand cards like that are indeed overpowered. but the fact is it happens. there are cards to negate them. i faced alot of people that use it and yea it sucks....ALOT but the way i see it you can use them. only thing i think that should be on the ban list are cards that can make instant wins like butterfly dagger elma and other things like that dark hole has always confused me as to why its banned. so the cancer starts here *just started reading*
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:01 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Jazzy Synchron SOLIDNSNAKE i see no problems with envoy of the beginning just like all of the other cards. i still am not seeing any problems with these "for some reason banned" cards keep trying to help me to see why they are indeed banned. I know, dude. Envoy of the Beginning is totally fair, so is Dark Hole. It's Delta Attacker that needs to be banned, hard. loved the typed sarcasm but i find dark hole to be fair as well its like heavy storm just for monsters. people say dark hole is banned because its like raigeki if used at the right time. although i thought cards are ment to be used at the right time, technically using heavy storm at the "right time" is like it being a harpies feather duster so should heavy storm be banned! i think not. i saw this and want to stop reading but i'll rage on.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:07 pm
I'd take a few more potshots at this dip, but if memory serves, Joe finally banhammer'd him.
Oh well, lulz over. neutral
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:10 pm
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