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Who did cloud like
Tifa
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Aries
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Yuffie
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Ocg

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:40 pm


you find out its aReis in advent children
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:45 pm


Actually no you do not if you watch closely right when Cloud goes to the Forgotten City in his flashbacks you will notice Tifa is wearing a sort of engagement ring. (now it might not be an engagement ring but it looks like one) So it points out that Tifa is the one he probably loves.

iResilience


.[.pink.spider.].

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:54 pm


I wouldnt say its obvious for either pairing we all saw the movie differently

but no it is not an engagement ring or a promise ring
and wearing that ring does not point out that he loves her since barret is also wearing one, no? plus if it was a promise ring it would've mentioned so in on the way to a smile
and if it was an engagement ring...theyd be engaged...which would make no sense
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:44 pm


Well I did say I wasn't sure about the ring thing, but I agree with you that it could come out differently since we all had different points of view on AC.

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leafeyon

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:21 pm


Hmmm....I believe that you are referring to the Cloudy Wolf Ring? Or whatever it's called. xD

I'm pretty certain that many people has some wolf item in the movie. Cloud has the wolf head on his shoulder, Barret and Tifa have Cloudy Wolf Rings, et cetera. Technically speaking, it has nothing to do with Cloud x Tifa. If anything, it would make people suspect Barret x Tifa, considering how Cloud does not have a Cloudy Wolf Ring...(As far as I could tell. O-o)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:49 pm


Actually, with the wolf thing, it symbolizes how Cloud is in the movie. A LONE WOLF. Remember how he moved out of the orphanage and lived in the church?

I think the only reason why he lived there was because he felt guilty over Aerith's death. That's one reason why he keeps seeing her.
She's trying to tell him it's alright, and move on, and I'll see you in the after life and what-not.

I think Tifa and Barret have the rings only because of friendship with Cloud. Think about it. When you were a kid you gave your best friend a friendship bracelet or necklace, right?
I think it's the same thing here.

No, no, I honestly think Cloud isn't going to end up with anyone. And if he does, it would be Tifa. I mean, Aerith isn't going to come back from the dead. Besides, Aerith will always live in Cloud's heart now and forever.

So...in the end...Cloud gets both of them. Heh heh heh. Two-timer.

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iResilience

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:57 pm


That is why I do not hate Aerith completely. I hated her in the game because of how she acted, but when I saw AC I started to not hate her but not like her either.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:59 pm


Twindream
.[.pink.spider.].

the case of tifa
is in tifa's PoV so we see things as tifa sees it
so no duh its going to appear cloti
because its from tifa's perspective
not once in the story does it show clouds thoughts
or feelings
so evidence for cloti? no
evidence to see how tifa feels? yes
--
no thats not true she didnt love cloud for zack
why?
because she loves cloud for cloud
why?
because if she really loved the zackness of cloud
why didnt she just stay with zack?
if they really loved each other
what is stopping them from being together?
she realizes they are nothing alike
she wants to know more about 'cloud'
and she sees the 'real cloud' and loves him
thats that
zack appears because cloud and zack were close, no?

well no duh she's jealous because she cant be with cloud
in the physical sense
she is not giving up she just realizes that shes not going to come back to life
she wants to take of him because she knows that really shes the only one who can take of him
beyond the physical extent


It may be Case of Tifa, but she does see how Cloud acts, like how she noticed his change in behavior and what he says. It's enough to assume what Cloud feels in the way he acts. (ex. Blushing)

Aeris couldn't love Cloud because he was Cloud because she never got to meet him. Even though she said, "I want to meet the 'real' you", it never happened. She only found out about his true feelings and past through Tifa in the Lifestream. She may say that she loves him, but what part of that is love is for Cloud?



Alright. I have got to agree with the fact that there IS a life after death. There is a way that the people we love protect us in their spiritual form.
It's the same with Aerith.
She protects EVERYONE-even Tifa and especially Cloud-after she dies.

It's obvious that you haven't read the official story written by Square Enix. (I keep forgetting the name! 0_0)
It's about Aerith in the planet. She's there protecting everyone and meeting all the people who have died during the game. i.e. Jessie, Wedge, and Biggs. Dyne....

It tells how Aerith was there with Tifa-spiritually-while Cloud had mako poisoning. She got to know the real Cloud because of that and loved him even more.
She got her wish.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:04 pm


Sakuya794
Twindream
.[.pink.spider.].

the case of tifa
is in tifa's PoV so we see things as tifa sees it
so no duh its going to appear cloti
because its from tifa's perspective
not once in the story does it show clouds thoughts
or feelings
so evidence for cloti? no
evidence to see how tifa feels? yes
--
no thats not true she didnt love cloud for zack
why?
because she loves cloud for cloud
why?
because if she really loved the zackness of cloud
why didnt she just stay with zack?
if they really loved each other
what is stopping them from being together?
she realizes they are nothing alike
she wants to know more about 'cloud'
and she sees the 'real cloud' and loves him
thats that
zack appears because cloud and zack were close, no?

well no duh she's jealous because she cant be with cloud
in the physical sense
she is not giving up she just realizes that shes not going to come back to life
she wants to take of him because she knows that really shes the only one who can take of him
beyond the physical extent


It may be Case of Tifa, but she does see how Cloud acts, like how she noticed his change in behavior and what he says. It's enough to assume what Cloud feels in the way he acts. (ex. Blushing)

Aeris couldn't love Cloud because he was Cloud because she never got to meet him. Even though she said, "I want to meet the 'real' you", it never happened. She only found out about his true feelings and past through Tifa in the Lifestream. She may say that she loves him, but what part of that is love is for Cloud?



Alright. I have got to agree with the fact that there IS a life after death. There is a way that the people we love protect us in their spiritual form.
It's the same with Aerith.
She protects EVERYONE-even Tifa and especially Cloud-after she dies.

It's obvious that you haven't read the official story written by Square Enix. (I keep forgetting the name! 0_0)
It's about Aerith in the planet. She's there protecting everyone and meeting all the people who have died during the game. i.e. Jessie, Wedge, and Biggs. Dyne....

It tells how Aerith was there with Tifa-spiritually-while Cloud had mako poisoning. She got to know the real Cloud because of that and loved him even more.
She got her wish.


Yeah right after Aeris got to see the real Cloud. She suddenly gave Tifa her blessing to be with him and gazed on them with a motherly gase. I mean how obvious does it have to be.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:59 pm


Exactly when did Aerith give Cloud and Tifa a BLESSING? O_o

"I'm a litte jealous, but...Take care of him."

Oh, yes. The fact that she's jealous that Tifa's alive and CAN take care of him, and wishes she could, too, automatically makes her giving them a "father's blessing."

It never said a "motherly" gaze, either. You want motherly gazes?

"Yes, it was similar to the feelings a mother would have. Tifa walked Cloud outside and was enjoying the new feeling that was blooming in her."

Quote Case of Tifa.

Nomura has also stated in an interview that Tifa has a "maternal bond" with Cloud...

I do not have the direct link, sadly.

P.S. - You seem to be leaving Barret out of the equation here. BARRET is Marlene's father. BARRET is living with Cloud and Tifa, too. Cloud and Tifa don't get along very well in Case of Tifa...Barret seems to make them a bit happier, though.


Hmmmm....I could go on, but I'll wait until more little points are brought up. 3nodding

leafeyon


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:29 pm


.[.pink.spider.].
I wouldnt say its obvious for either pairing we all saw the movie differently

but no it is not an engagement ring or a promise ring
and wearing that ring does not point out that he loves her since barret is also wearing one, no? plus if it was a promise ring it would've mentioned so in on the way to a smile
and if it was an engagement ring...theyd be engaged...which would make no sense


Barret's was his wedding ring from his marriage... sweatdrop

I think he loved Tifa.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:56 pm


Lutearina
Exactly when did Aerith give Cloud and Tifa a BLESSING? O_o

"I'm a litte jealous, but...Take care of him."

Oh, yes. The fact that she's jealous that Tifa's alive and CAN take care of him, and wishes she could, too, automatically makes her giving them a "father's blessing."


Yeah Aeris was jealous because it was Tifa that was in Cloud deepest most privet thoughts and not her. And who said anything about a fathers blessing? You don't have to be a father to give your blessing to a couple.

Oh and here is the quote from ‘The Maiden’


She desperately tried to talk to Tifa who was about to get intoxicated by the highly concentrated Mako. Guiding her conscious, Aerith took her into Cloud's closed heart.

In truth, Aerith really wanted to do it herself. But she couldn't carry out the task. That's why she entrusted Tifa with it. She entrusted Tifa with all the feelings she had for Cloud in her heart. She entrusted them to the one that was going to "live" together with Cloud...



Aeris is giving her blessing to Tifa. It's not a fatherly blessing, it's a blessing from one friend to another.


And so, Tifa accomplished the task. Collating her own memories with that of Cloud's, she looked for the things that only the real Cloud could know. Proofing it all, the closed door was opened. Not leaving Soldier allowed Jenova's power that was implanted in Cloud to copy the Soldier traits of his close friend, Zacks. Drawing out the deep memories that were firmly clammed up inside all of that, she reconstructed his original character instead of the fake character he created to protect himself.

"You did it, Tifa. Thank you... I'm a little jealous of you but, do take care of Cloud and the upper world."

Tifa embraced Cloud tightly as he returned to his senses. Aerith watched as both of them returned to the surface while smiling like an affectionate mother.



This followed Cloud calling her mother in the Life Stream and Aeris calling him a big child confirms how they feel about each other. Tifa never calls Cloud a child and Cloud never calls Tifa mother.

I mean just look at the dialog between Aeris and Cloud in AC. He hasn't seen or talked to Aeris in two years and then when he finally does she asks. "So why did you come?" and all he says is "I want to be forgiven." not "I wanted to see you" or "I wish you could be here with me."

Lutearina
It never said a "motherly" gaze, either.


Oh a motherly "smile" then. Like that’s a big difference.

Lutearina
"You want motherly gazes?

"Yes, it was similar to the feelings a mother would have. Tifa walked Cloud outside and was enjoying the new feeling that was blooming in her."

Quote Case of Tifa.


Oh please, this is clearly overanalyzing and grasping at straws. It's a 'fact' that Tifa is in love with Cloud. She has been since she was a child. Her whole story line and characterization revolves around her relationship with Cloud, through the game, In The Case of Tifa, and AC. It's the whole reason why she's there. So you're telling me, that Nomura suddenly decided to throw all of that away and turn her feelings for Cloud into something maternal. That's just ridicules! Tifa's love for Cloud isn't even debatable. Tifa is in love with Cloud. It's a huge part of her character. Nomura would not take that away from her because Tifa wouldn't be Tifa with out it.

Also, so what if Tifa had feelings "similar" (key word) to the feelings a mother. Girlfriends and boyfriends, husbands and wives, often act and feel 'slightly' parental toward each other every 'now and then'. It's a natural part of any romantic relationship.

Aeris on the other hand calls him a big child and then sends him back to Tifa while 'Zack is there'

Lutearina
Nomura has also stated in an interview that Tifa has a "maternal bond" with Cloud...

I do not have the direct link, sadly.


You know I have heard lots of Cleris say this but they can never produce the actual quotation. You know why? Because it's most likely a dumb Cleris rumor to combat the "mother" and "big Child" remarks made by Cloud and Aeris in AC. So Aeris isn't the mother it's Tifa.

Lutearina
P.S. - You seem to be leaving Barret out of the equation here. BARRET is Marlene's father. BARRET is living with Cloud and Tifa, too. Cloud and Tifa don't get along very well in Case of Tifa...Barret seems to make them a bit happier, though.


Oh P.P.S - 'BARRET' only stayed for a year. After that he left Cloud and Tifa alone with Marleen for several months. That's more then half a year. And guess what, THEY WERE HAPPY!. Cloud only became depressed after he kept receiving flower from Aeris foster mother. I mean hell, if I had to keep going to my dead friends grave, I would start feeling guilty to. Also Nomura said that Cloud has only been living in Aeris's church "recently."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:21 am


Just so everyone knows I'm writing this on most of the threads as an announcement. It seems that I wont be able to be here all that much anymore since I now have 5 college classes and very little free time. Anyway even though the Clotif thread has been pretty much dead since before Christmas, I still have to appoint someone to take care of it. So I appointed Twindream as thread manager. Weather she takes it or not I really don't know yet. So I guess this is good bye for now. So you guys can all start cheering that "The b***h of bashing is gone!" and "good riddance!"
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:08 pm


Cloud always loved Aerith. Him and Tifa will always be good friends, and anyone who thinks cloud could have ever gotten with yuffie is a complete retard

supermanwacko


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:47 pm


i think he liked bof of them then they kept on trying to get him like on the game tifa got mad wen arius went out with cloud( i think i did ot spell it right)
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