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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:39 pm
IceeWitch Miss Love Tantei 23 days 15hrs 39mins 0secs
From this post!You have the power to edit the first post lol. @squish... Alutian made a thread about the cover art that I thought was interesting. She compared it to the first, thirdn and second books were Harry didn't have his wand in the cover, and the wand didn't play a major role in the book. (Well not sure about CoS) but the last three books his wand did play a role. He was learning hte magic or something...that's memory talking... Anyway I agree because there is no wand on the cover of book 7 it won't really play a role...it'll be more harry's heart. *scratches head* Oh yeah sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:52 am
IceeWitch Alutian did you PM mystic_emerald? Yes, I did. All good.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:01 am
IceeWitch Miss Love Tantei 23 days 15hrs 39mins 0secs
From this post!You have the power to edit the first post lol. @squish... Alutian made a thread about the cover art that I thought was interesting. She compared it to the first, thirdn and second books were Harry didn't have his wand in the cover, and the wand didn't play a major role in the book. (Well not sure about CoS) but the last three books his wand did play a role. He was learning hte magic or something...that's memory talking... Anyway I agree because there is no wand on the cover of book 7 it won't really play a role...it'll be more harry's heart. It was this: Books one, two, and three all show Harry with some other tool of some sort in hand (broom, phoenix/sword, hippogriff). He doesn't use his wand in many decisive duels. There are no huge magical battles. Sure, he conjures the patronus in book three, but it wasn't an exchange of spells so much, and that seems to be one of the only major spells he learns and then utilizes in a 'real-world' situation. And then there's the fact that he's flying in all of these, instead of on the ground. Sidestepping for a moment, has anyone ever had flight dreams before? I have. You're dreaming up in the air and it has the lightest feeling to it, euphoric and magical. And always, right before I wake up, I'm dragged to the ground and I feel heavier, more real, more...I guess somber. This is sort of what I think Harry's position (air or ground) could represent on the American book covers. At first, they're magical and fairly light. Harry's still sort of euphoric about magic and what comes with it. And then, around the end of book three/book four, he's sort of dragged back down. Magic is a reality now, as are all of its dangers, which are considerably stronger for Harry than for most others. Books four, five, and six all show Harry holding his wand up. These are where he starts using magic more often than luck or instinct. His first duel with Voldemort happens in book four, then the DoM in book five, then the fight over Hogwarts grounds in book six. Book seven shows no wand--just Harry with his hand raised and his mouth slightly open. The absence of a wand--of any obviously magical tool, actually--makes me think that Harry wins this fight with wandless magic.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:10 am
Alutian I am a traditional doubter of wandless magic being possible, but I do agree that Harry might be doing such on the cover of DH. The American editor of the book said about the American cover, "We're seeing Harry in a very interesting situation. Readers will find out exactly what the situation is."
But frankly, as I already mentioned, I am extremely disinclined to believe wandless magic exists or is possible in Harry's world. We have heard no mention of it, no hint of it, have not seen something that could have been it. Wouldn't Dumbledore be able to use wandless magic, especially seeing as he defeated Grindewald and all? Wouldn't wandless magic have been needed to find the locket?
Does anyone have any theories as to what Harry might be doing on the American cover besides wandless magic?
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:34 pm
Queenie Jean Alutian I am a traditional doubter of wandless magic being possible, but I do agree that Harry might be doing such on the cover of DH. The American editor of the book said about the American cover, "We're seeing Harry in a very interesting situation. Readers will find out exactly what the situation is."
But frankly, as I already mentioned, I am extremely disinclined to believe wandless magic exists or is possible in Harry's world. We have heard no mention of it, no hint of it, have not seen something that could have been it. Wouldn't Dumbledore be able to use wandless magic, especially seeing as he defeated Grindewald and all? Wouldn't wandless magic have been needed to find the locket?
Does anyone have any theories as to what Harry might be doing on the American cover besides wandless magic? There have been examples of wandless magic shown in the books. When Harry blew up his aunt, when Harry lit his wand in Book 5 (his hands wasn't on it) And then Dumbledore did wandless magic.....when he was in the cave. He did some kind of incantations to see if that was the place.. I might be wrong which means i should check up...
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:36 pm
I don't know what else he oculd be doing. I saw the cover but it was in a magazine and I didn't really look at it then. The mugglenet poster is too big for my screen.
I'd have to study the cover again.
Not to mention lack of rest. Gotta go NBA Draft 07 is showing!
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:04 am
IceeWitch Queenie Jean Alutian I am a traditional doubter of wandless magic being possible, but I do agree that Harry might be doing such on the cover of DH. The American editor of the book said about the American cover, "We're seeing Harry in a very interesting situation. Readers will find out exactly what the situation is."
But frankly, as I already mentioned, I am extremely disinclined to believe wandless magic exists or is possible in Harry's world. We have heard no mention of it, no hint of it, have not seen something that could have been it. Wouldn't Dumbledore be able to use wandless magic, especially seeing as he defeated Grindewald and all? Wouldn't wandless magic have been needed to find the locket?
Does anyone have any theories as to what Harry might be doing on the American cover besides wandless magic? There have been examples of wandless magic shown in the books. When Harry blew up his aunt, when Harry lit his wand in Book 5 (his hands wasn't on it) And then Dumbledore did wandless magic.....when he was in the cave. He did some kind of incantations to see if that was the place.. I might be wrong which means i should check up... I don't consider those instances with Harry to be wandless magic.
In the first instance, Harry was not saying a spell out loud or in his mind, and was not intending to do any magic at all. Wandless magic is controlled, has to be extremely controlled because you would have to focus a lot of your power into...your hand or something....because you don't have a wand to channel your power. Harry blowing up Aunt Marge was characteristic of instances with young wizards and witches who are developing their powers; it was an uncontrolled surge of power.
In the second instance, while Harry did say a spell and was sort of trying to do magic (I could argue here he wasn't even trying to do magic because he was saying the spell vainly and desperately, not really thinking it would work), his hand was extremely close to the wand when it responded to the 'Lumos' spell. The magic occured through the wand. Harry's powers obviously were strong enough (or the wand was strong enough, or both) to 'jump' a little from himself to the wand, but the light was not made without a wand.
Dumbledore did not use any incantations when he and Harry were looking for the locket, just (as far as we could tell) observation and guess-and-check techniques.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:29 am
How do you define wandless magic?
What kind of an instance would be wandless magic to you?
I think there are different forms of wandless magic. (Legilmency, Occulmency...those are forms, but if you are talking about making spells and stuff then I don't know)
We are waiting on one more thread to open for the carnival
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:08 am
KK i dunno if i've posted my book 7 feelings before, so if you've read them feel free to skip my post. But i have many theories, here they are:
Snape IS IS IS IS BADDDD i don;t care what eople say he is a badman!
Dumbledore IS IS IS IS DEAD! they may find a technicality through which he may help Harry, but he will NOT come back to life. Because it would make no sense if HE can come back from the dead but Harrys parents can't.
Heres a thought, they will stumble upon some place where the spirits of all those killed by voldemort and they all join together to fight his army. That way sirius, dumbledore, and the old order of the pheonix will be there, they can all fight in the final battle.
AND FINALLLY MY FAVOURITE!!!
Harry is actually voldemort's son, now wait wait hold on, don't think I'm going all starwars on you, I have method to my madness. Whenever someone recognizes harry, they say he looks like his father but "has his mothers eyes" and i think that iwll play a big role in this story. In the second book harry told dumbledore that he noticed alot of physical similarities between Tom Riddle and himself, and that woudl explain his looks but his mothers, eyes came from lily. So voldemort and lily had something i think, and HEAR ME OUT!! I know what your thinking!!! so hold up! That is what Voldemort couldn;t kill harry, not only was he protected by love, but his own blood ran in the veins of the child, and some of the connections between them may be genetic. ALSO the sorting hat said he wuld have done well in slytherin, might it not be possible that he would have donewell there because thats what house his father was in? Think about it, and when its not in the book you can laugh at me...lol
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:53 pm
IceeWitch, I must admit, I forgot about Occlumency. Occlumency would be a wandless magic of sorts, I guess, and so would wandless Legilmency (as we've seen Voldemort do). However, the more traditional idea of wandless magic, the way I think of it, is exactly the same as ordinary magic, just without a wand. You say or think a spell, and instead of channeling your power through your hand and then your wand, you channel it through a body part. Obviously in most cases said body part would be your finger(s) or hand, but I don't see why you couldn't channel the power to do a spell through another body part if it was more useful to do so. (don't ask me when that would be because I have no idea wink )jillydepp Dumbledore IS IS IS IS DEAD! they may find a technicality through which he may help Harry, but he will NOT come back to life. Because it would make no sense if HE can come back from the dead but Harrys parents can't. jillydepp I agree with you that there is a 'technicality' of sorts. *whips out her only DH theory*
The Pensieve. The Pensieve has been extremely important to Harry's journey and learning every since it was first introduced in GoF. And we all know Dumbledore stores many important thoughts and memories in there. Harry never got to learn how to find the Horcruxes, never got to learn Dumbledore's hunches and theories about where some of the other Horcruxes may be. Harry really has no idea how to start looking for the Horcruxes, much less find, retrieve, and destroy them. The Pensieve is going to help make up for the loss of the mentor that Dumbledore was.
Also consider this: an underlying repetition of sorts is the story of how Dumbledore retrieved and destroyed the ring Horcrux. The first time we see Dumbledore, Harry asks him about it, and he continues to ask and wonder about it up until Dumbledore's death. But Dumbledore always puts the story off. That story would help Harry greatly, don't you think? And I'll bet you anything it's in the Pensieve.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:46 am
Dumbledore is dead. I think his portraits around the Wiziarding world will help Harry.
Harry being related to Voldemort is ludicrous. He looks like James, he has Lily's eyes. Everyone talked about him being their son.
They were connected (Harry and Voldie) because of the spell that failed. PS I promise I won't laugh.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:48 am
There are actually many forms of wandless magic (in that sense). Take Animagi for example. They do it wandless. And Tonks' Metogaknkanf whatever, that's all wandless.
You don't need a wand to produce magic.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:47 am
IceeWitch There are actually many forms of wandless magic (in that sense). Take Animagi for example. They do it wandless. And Tonks' Metogaknkanf whatever, that's all wandless. You don't need a wand to produce magic. I'm not saying that magic that does not require a wand is rare or anything. But doing magic that normally would require a wand without said wand, now that's what I'd consider wandless magic. And all kinds of magic without wands are difficult to do.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:48 am
I couldn't get a really great countdown, but here's a ticker I think will work just the same.

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