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 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:31 pm
to what other possible contradictions you said you have found in the Bible. Your pick of subject.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:01 pm
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)
How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 )
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 )
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:37 pm
Lethkhar Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!!
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:26 am
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!! 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:07 pm
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!! 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes ________________________________________________________ Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:12 pm
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!! 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. I don't need to. The burden of proof is on you. Quote: 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight That's your Bible, not mine. Quote: 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes Hundreds of thousands of people are born every ten days. Hundreds of thousands of people die every ten days. Countless people are tortured every ten days. Countless people taste freedom every ten days. A lot of species go extinct every ten days. Yeah, I'd say 10 days can be pretty lifechanging. ________________________________________________________ Quote: Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse. It doesn't say that in my Bible. Is it good to be wise? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:19 am
I'll help out by starting with the easy one: Lethkhar Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 7:2 The "clean" animals are the ones that God has permitted his people to eat. Since they're going to be on a boat for an extended period of time, you have to imagine that they'll have to feed both themselves AND the carniverous animals. So, six of every clean beast to eat, and the last one to save for it to help repopulate. They also had to have been kept apart from the other animals, to have not been eaten prematurely by things like lion and such. So, everything that was supposed to be collected went in in pairs, the rest were boarded up somewhere else. Does this make more sense?
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:02 am
ryuu_chan I'll help out by starting with the easy one: Lethkhar Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 7:2 The "clean" animals are the ones that God has permitted his people to eat. Since they're going to be on a boat for an extended period of time, you have to imagine that they'll have to feed both themselves AND the carniverous animals. So, six of every clean beast to eat, and the last one to save for it to help repopulate. They also had to have been kept apart from the other animals, to have not been eaten prematurely by things like lion and such. So, everything that was supposed to be collected went in in pairs, the rest were boarded up somewhere else. Does this make more sense? I'm afraid not. I don't need a reason for them to come in 7's, I need an explanation for why He contradicted Himself and also said a pair of them.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:42 am
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8 ) (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!! 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. I don't need to. The burden of proof is on you. There, are you happy?Quote: 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight That's your Bible, not mine. Quote: 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes Hundreds of thousands of people are born every ten days. Hundreds of thousands of people die every ten days. Countless people are tortured every ten days. Countless people taste freedom every ten days. A lot of species go extinct every ten days. Yeah, I'd say 10 days can be pretty lifechanging. ________________________________________________________ Quote: Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse. It doesn't say that in my Bible. Is it good to be wise? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Firstly, Ryuu chan started debating the animals and things, so I'll drop that here. Secondly, what version is your bible?
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:47 am
Lethkhar ryuu_chan I'll help out by starting with the easy one: Lethkhar Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 7:2 The "clean" animals are the ones that God has permitted his people to eat. Since they're going to be on a boat for an extended period of time, you have to imagine that they'll have to feed both themselves AND the carniverous animals. So, six of every clean beast to eat, and the last one to save for it to help repopulate. They also had to have been kept apart from the other animals, to have not been eaten prematurely by things like lion and such. So, everything that was supposed to be collected went in in pairs, the rest were boarded up somewhere else. Does this make more sense? I'm afraid not. I don't need a reason for them to come in 7's, I need an explanation for why He contradicted Himself and also said a pair of them. Let me clarify what he said. back then, they could only eat clean animals. So he said that God told them to take 7 of each gender of every clean beast so that they could eat 12 and keep the other two to repopulate. of the unclean animals they only took a pair, because they couldn't eat them. They took the extras for food.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:41 pm
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Thanks, now I have to look up a whole bunch of Bible scriptures to prove you wrong. You just love making people work, don't you? 1, 2, 3, 4: That happened in two different books. It happened at two different times, so things would be different. 5: Both times it says twenty two. If only says forty two in some manuscripts. You took that from a footnote! 6: Again, footnote. 7:10 days doesn't make much of a difference. 2 Chronicles was probably being more exact. YAY!!!!! THE BIBLE DOESN"T CONTRADICT ITSELF!!!!!! give me more "contradictions" to prove wrong!!! 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. I don't need to. The burden of proof is on you. There, are you happy?Quote: 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight That's your Bible, not mine. Quote: 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes Hundreds of thousands of people are born every ten days. Hundreds of thousands of people die every ten days. Countless people are tortured every ten days. Countless people taste freedom every ten days. A lot of species go extinct every ten days. Yeah, I'd say 10 days can be pretty lifechanging. ________________________________________________________ Quote: Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse. It doesn't say that in my Bible. Is it good to be wise? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Firstly, Ryuu chan started debating the animals and things, so I'll drop that here. Secondly, what version is your bible? New International. I also have a King James version somewhere around here...
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:43 pm
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar ryuu_chan I'll help out by starting with the easy one: Lethkhar Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 7:2 The "clean" animals are the ones that God has permitted his people to eat. Since they're going to be on a boat for an extended period of time, you have to imagine that they'll have to feed both themselves AND the carniverous animals. So, six of every clean beast to eat, and the last one to save for it to help repopulate. They also had to have been kept apart from the other animals, to have not been eaten prematurely by things like lion and such. So, everything that was supposed to be collected went in in pairs, the rest were boarded up somewhere else. Does this make more sense? I'm afraid not. I don't need a reason for them to come in 7's, I need an explanation for why He contradicted Himself and also said a pair of them. Let me clarify what he said. back then, they could only eat clean animals. So he said that God told them to take 7 of each gender of every clean beast so that they could eat 12 and keep the other two to repopulate. of the unclean animals they only took a pair, because they couldn't eat them. They took the extras for food. And my question to you is not why He brought more, but why He expressly told them to bring a pair, and then told them to bring more.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:10 pm
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar ryuu_chan I'll help out by starting with the easy one: Lethkhar Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 7:2 The "clean" animals are the ones that God has permitted his people to eat. Since they're going to be on a boat for an extended period of time, you have to imagine that they'll have to feed both themselves AND the carniverous animals. So, six of every clean beast to eat, and the last one to save for it to help repopulate. They also had to have been kept apart from the other animals, to have not been eaten prematurely by things like lion and such. So, everything that was supposed to be collected went in in pairs, the rest were boarded up somewhere else. Does this make more sense? I'm afraid not. I don't need a reason for them to come in 7's, I need an explanation for why He contradicted Himself and also said a pair of them. Let me clarify what he said. back then, they could only eat clean animals. So he said that God told them to take 7 of each gender of every clean beast so that they could eat 12 and keep the other two to repopulate. of the unclean animals they only took a pair, because they couldn't eat them. They took the extras for food. And my question to you is not why He brought more, but why He expressly told them to bring a pair, and then told them to bring more. Now your just asking the same question after i answered it. I answered both questions. read it again.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:17 pm
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar 1,2,3, 4: Prove it. 5 and 6: Did not. 7: It is a difference nonetheless. Here's another one: GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. I don't need to. The burden of proof is on you. There, are you happy?Quote: 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight That's your Bible, not mine. Quote: 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes Hundreds of thousands of people are born every ten days. Hundreds of thousands of people die every ten days. Countless people are tortured every ten days. Countless people taste freedom every ten days. A lot of species go extinct every ten days. Yeah, I'd say 10 days can be pretty lifechanging. ________________________________________________________ Quote: Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse. It doesn't say that in my Bible. Is it good to be wise? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Firstly, Ryuu chan started debating the animals and things, so I'll drop that here. Secondly, what version is your bible? New International. I also have a King James version somewhere around here... So, here is the New International Version interpretation of those verses: 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri king of Israel. 2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. _____________________________________________________________ 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. His mother's name was Nehushta daughter of Elnathan; she was from Jerusalem. 2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:50 pm
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 1,2,3,4: I can't prove it because I wasn't alive back then. But you can't prove that it wasn't for the same reason. I don't need to. The burden of proof is on you. There, are you happy?Quote: 5 and 6: Both of these quotes are from www.biblegateway.com: 2 Chronicles 22:2 (New International Version)2 Ahaziah was twenty-two [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 22:2 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 8:26 Hebrew forty-two2 Chronicles 36:9 (New International Version)Jehoiachin King of Judah 9 Jehoiachin was eighteen [a] years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. Footnotes:
2 Chronicles 36:9 One Hebrew manuscript, some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac (see also 2 Kings 24:8 most Hebrew manuscripts eight That's your Bible, not mine. Quote: 7: Wow, 10 days sure is a huge, lifechanging difference. rolleyes Hundreds of thousands of people are born every ten days. Hundreds of thousands of people die every ten days. Countless people are tortured every ten days. Countless people taste freedom every ten days. A lot of species go extinct every ten days. Yeah, I'd say 10 days can be pretty lifechanging. ________________________________________________________ Quote: Now for the Genesis one: Genesis 7:2 2 Take with you seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, (The footnote marked with 'a')a: Genesis 7:2 - Or seven pairs ; also in verse. It doesn't say that in my Bible. Is it good to be wise? PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. 1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." Firstly, Ryuu chan started debating the animals and things, so I'll drop that here. Secondly, what version is your bible? New International. I also have a King James version somewhere around here... So, here is the New International Version interpretation of those verses: 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri king of Israel. 2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem one year. His mother's name was Athaliah, a granddaughter of Omri. _____________________________________________________________ 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. His mother's name was Nehushta daughter of Elnathan; she was from Jerusalem. 2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. That's not what mine says. I'm sorry. neutral
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