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Anael De Ezra

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:20 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
HirunHikari
Darkmaniac
I usually like to slit mine with razors, use the blood to write my laundry list and then attempt to kill people

night guys, i'm gonna sleep on this and come to a decision in the morning

AND PAD IF YOU EVER GET IN THIS SITUATUION AND WANT TO ABORT THE ******** I WILL LAUGH MORE THAN IF I EVER MET KASABIAN, LOSTPROPHETS AND MUSE ALL AT ONCE.


Can you at least tell me what "Pad's side" was?

HirunHikari
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    Pads side was that she was completly against it and thinks it's an irresponsibal desicion.

    It's not any of your business, though.

    And I see this guild really isn't an open minded, caring one. It's one that flames people for having different opinions.
    GOOD TO KNOW.

Estellio Estel
Pad, we accept differing opinions if they're reasonable and supportable, and it seems nobody really gave an unbiased reason behind the minority opinion. "You'll be a murderer" and "It's selfish" aren't reasons; they're attacks. (My personal opinion is that neither of these are true.)

Look, I find abortion unfavorable except in certain circumstances, and this is one of those certain circumstances where I understand the reasoning. Just because we accept her decision doesn't mean it's one we agree with. I suggest we back off of her now and let her do what she considers right.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:21 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
HirunHikari
Darkmaniac
I usually like to slit mine with razors, use the blood to write my laundry list and then attempt to kill people

night guys, i'm gonna sleep on this and come to a decision in the morning

AND PAD IF YOU EVER GET IN THIS SITUATUION AND WANT TO ABORT THE ******** I WILL LAUGH MORE THAN IF I EVER MET KASABIAN, LOSTPROPHETS AND MUSE ALL AT ONCE.


Can you at least tell me what "Pad's side" was?

HirunHikari
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    Pads side was that she was completly against it and thinks it's an irresponsibal desicion.

    It's not any of your business, though.

    And I see this guild really isn't an open minded, caring one. It's one that flames people for having different opinions.
    GOOD TO KNOW.

Estellio Estel
Padme, please stop now. Game is upset. People are only arguing because you made it seem like what Game believes in is wrong. Frankly, I don't have a religion because of all of the restrictions it would put on me. If I were in the situation, I would probably do the same thing. Back to the point. Padme, you can think its wrong, or irresponsible all you want, but please, keep your opinion to yourself. Its just like the phrase, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it."

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:22 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
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Brothers...



This is annoying.

You guys....shutup! Can you not see that one of your friends in freaking out?!
She needs help. Not ranting on how abortion sucks, not stories on what one should do. She NEEDS Support!!! Lead Reb to the right path!

She is your friend this is a thread for support, you have a rant? an argument? an opinion that could be judged wrong? then take it outside of this thread.

One of your guy's friends is hurt!
Now help her!


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    So you're saying people should sacrifice the valies they've held dear their whole life?

    Anyone who's even close to disagreeing wither her desicion is getting flamed and accused of things they haven't done.

Estellio Estel
STFU PLEASE.

God Padme, cant you try to be a good friend? >.< Good lord I wish I was still v.c so I could lock this thread. Because Game does NOT need people disagreeing with her or calling her irresponsible right now. She needs support not criticism. Is your opinion more important then a friend in need? Is it worth it to make someone feel the need to kill themselves, just so you can tell them your opinion?

You should just leave this thread, because almost no one gives a ******** about what you think at the moment and you're just making yourself look terrible and making people hate you.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:22 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
Magnius of the Chaos
Anael De Ezra
HirunHikari
DeGei
I wasnt flaming anyone.


I fail to see that.
You are imposing your opinions on everyone else, i.e. "Abortion is murder", and "I don't want to come here and see Dark and see a murderer".

You said: "I know this is going to sound rude, but how can you be so selfish. A child must die because you wanted to drink and have fun. Is that really fair?"

Now, first off, you're flaming her by calling her selfish. And for all means, she has infact stated that it was not her intention to get drunk and wind up this way. She was totally taken advantage of after a few drinks.

Also, she's a lesbian. They do not get pregnant because they do not date men. WHY for all sake would she have sex with a man? Because she was intoxicated and under the influence, rendering judgement gone.


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Thank you, Hirun.

I think that everyone who came in here to protest Game's choices should, frankly, burn in hell. I doubt any of you have been in this situation nor have you actually considered the ramifications of it. We all need to let Game deal and give her our support.
Look, if you want to stop the flaming, then don't tell people to burn in hell. It's just going to escalate into worse stuff. If you disagree, then disagree. Don't go dissing other people for having a different opinion.

Telling people to burn in hell won't matter because Padme will come in and tell you she doesn't care for your opinion, anyways.

    ^-^
    ILU so much, Maggeh.

Estellio Estel
... gonk Look, I don't want to argue with you guys! I just think we need to back off of this!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:22 pm


DeGei
Return_of_Watanuki-san
DeGei
Return_of_Watanuki-san
DeGei
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and having a child could have a major effect on her physical health right now. being a parent is a great responsibility, and maybe, at 19 she's not ready for that responsibility.

Thats why I said put it up for adoption. 9 months of discomfort to save the child is worth to avoid a lifetime of eternal pain and regret. Just my opinion tho.
You do know childbirth can kill, right?

It CAN. But there is nothing in this case that would make me believe that she is in danger of giving birth at this time.
Your sentence is worded really weird....

Ok... we have differing opinions. You say adoption because of great mental health strains down the road MAYBE.
I say abortion because of great mental, pyshical, and emotional strains right now and for the next 18 years if she goes through with this pregnancy.
But you, being a man, have no idea what pregnancy is like. I, being a 15 year old, also do not have any idea, but I think that because I am female, I have a slightly better idea than you do, about what pregnancy is like.

The main reason Im against it is because YOU ARE KILLING A LIVING THING!
And why would she deal with stress for 18 years if she puts the child up for adoption? Am I the only one who realizes the ADOPTION is a legal and valid way to handle a pregnacy if a person does not want the child?
And yes I realize the pain and such child bearing involves. I am 21, Ive know several people, (aunts, my mother, etc) that have gone through pregancy and yes I know it is a B-I-T-C-H!!!
I just dont want to think of Game being a murderer everytime I see a post by her.
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So DeGei... you never swat a mosquito that has bit you? You have no immune system? If you say no to either of these questions then those alone make you a hypocrite.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:22 pm


Game, we will support you in any decision you happen to make, suicide not included.

And, guys, please do stop arguing. She has to make a decision that may affect the rest of her life. The last thing she needs right now is stress from pressure and people arguing.

................*leaves thread, before she gets stuck into drama too*

`Aine Chievious

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Hirun Hikari

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:23 pm


gthb
Brothers...



This is annoying.

You guys....shutup! Can you not see that one of your friends in freaking out?!
She needs help. Not ranting on how abortion sucks, not stories on what one should do. She NEEDS Support!!! Lead Reb to the right path!

She is your friend this is a thread for support, you have a rant? an argument? an opinion that could be judged wrong(yes, I know, everyone opinion can be judged, I'm talking about the ones that start these things)? then take it outside of this thread.

One of your guy's friends is hurt!
Now help her!


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@w@; There's not much we can do. She's away, and that people are forcing opinions left and right.

@Maggeh: I'm just here to debunk everything. I douse the flames and reveal the contradictions.

HirunHikari
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:23 pm


Anael De Ezra
Padme Potter of Hobbiton
HirunHikari
Darkmaniac
I usually like to slit mine with razors, use the blood to write my laundry list and then attempt to kill people

night guys, i'm gonna sleep on this and come to a decision in the morning

AND PAD IF YOU EVER GET IN THIS SITUATUION AND WANT TO ABORT THE ******** I WILL LAUGH MORE THAN IF I EVER MET KASABIAN, LOSTPROPHETS AND MUSE ALL AT ONCE.


Can you at least tell me what "Pad's side" was?

HirunHikari
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    Pads side was that she was completly against it and thinks it's an irresponsibal desicion.

    It's not any of your business, though.

    And I see this guild really isn't an open minded, caring one. It's one that flames people for having different opinions.
    GOOD TO KNOW.

Estellio Estel
Pad, we accept differing opinions if they're reasonable and supportable, and it seems nobody really gave an unbiased reason behind the minority opinion. "You'll be a murderer" and "It's selfish" aren't reasons; they're attacks. (My personal opinion is that neither of these are true.)

Look, I find abortion unfavorable except in certain circumstances, and this is one of those certain circumstances where I understand the reasoning. Just because we accept her decision doesn't mean it's one we agree with. I suggest we back off of her now and let her do what she considers right.

    What if we think it is selfish, and she will be a murderer? Why should we change our mind because it's a friend?
    What makes them ATTACKS?

    Why doesn't "burn in hell" constitute as one if calling game selfish is?

Estellio Estel

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:23 pm


Please, guys, no more! gonk
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:24 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
gthb
Brothers...



This is annoying.

You guys....shutup! Can you not see that one of your friends in freaking out?!
She needs help. Not ranting on how abortion sucks, not stories on what one should do. She NEEDS Support!!! Lead Reb to the right path!

She is your friend this is a thread for support, you have a rant? an argument? an opinion that could be judged wrong? then take it outside of this thread.

One of your guy's friends is hurt!
Now help her!


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    So you're saying people should sacrifice the valies they've held dear their whole life?

    Anyone who's even close to disagreeing wither her desicion is getting flamed and accused of things they haven't done.

Estellio Estel

Brothers...



I'm not even going to argue with this, I just want to help one of my friends.


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GtHb


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:25 pm


Anael De Ezra
Padme Potter of Hobbiton
Magnius of the Chaos
Anael De Ezra
HirunHikari
DeGei
I wasnt flaming anyone.


I fail to see that.
You are imposing your opinions on everyone else, i.e. "Abortion is murder", and "I don't want to come here and see Dark and see a murderer".

You said: "I know this is going to sound rude, but how can you be so selfish. A child must die because you wanted to drink and have fun. Is that really fair?"

Now, first off, you're flaming her by calling her selfish. And for all means, she has infact stated that it was not her intention to get drunk and wind up this way. She was totally taken advantage of after a few drinks.

Also, she's a lesbian. They do not get pregnant because they do not date men. WHY for all sake would she have sex with a man? Because she was intoxicated and under the influence, rendering judgement gone.


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Thank you, Hirun.

I think that everyone who came in here to protest Game's choices should, frankly, burn in hell. I doubt any of you have been in this situation nor have you actually considered the ramifications of it. We all need to let Game deal and give her our support.
Look, if you want to stop the flaming, then don't tell people to burn in hell. It's just going to escalate into worse stuff. If you disagree, then disagree. Don't go dissing other people for having a different opinion.

Telling people to burn in hell won't matter because Padme will come in and tell you she doesn't care for your opinion, anyways.

    ^-^
    ILU so much, Maggeh.

Estellio Estel
... gonk Look, I don't want to argue with you guys! I just think we need to back off of this!
I'm not trying to argue. I just want the arguing to stop in the first place.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:25 pm


`Nymphie
Padme Potter of Hobbiton
gthb
Brothers...



This is annoying.

You guys....shutup! Can you not see that one of your friends in freaking out?!
She needs help. Not ranting on how abortion sucks, not stories on what one should do. She NEEDS Support!!! Lead Reb to the right path!

She is your friend this is a thread for support, you have a rant? an argument? an opinion that could be judged wrong? then take it outside of this thread.

One of your guy's friends is hurt!
Now help her!


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    So you're saying people should sacrifice the valies they've held dear their whole life?

    Anyone who's even close to disagreeing wither her desicion is getting flamed and accused of things they haven't done.

Estellio Estel
STFU PLEASE.

God Padme, cant you try to be a good friend? >.< Good lord I wish I was still v.c so I could lock this thread. Because Game does NOT need people disagreeing with her or calling her irresponsible right now. She needs support not criticism. Is your opinion more important then a friend in need? Is it worth it to make someone feel the need to kill themselves, just so you can tell them your opinion?

You should just leave this thread, because almost no one gives a ******** about what you think at the moment and you're just making yourself look terrible and making people hate you.


Amen.

@Ezzy: Sorry, the train has just derailed from the station. No VCs in sight, and this is headed for a major collision. x_x;

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:25 pm


Padme Potter of Hobbiton
Anael De Ezra
Padme Potter of Hobbiton
HirunHikari
Darkmaniac
I usually like to slit mine with razors, use the blood to write my laundry list and then attempt to kill people

night guys, i'm gonna sleep on this and come to a decision in the morning

AND PAD IF YOU EVER GET IN THIS SITUATUION AND WANT TO ABORT THE ******** I WILL LAUGH MORE THAN IF I EVER MET KASABIAN, LOSTPROPHETS AND MUSE ALL AT ONCE.


Can you at least tell me what "Pad's side" was?

HirunHikari
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    Pads side was that she was completly against it and thinks it's an irresponsibal desicion.

    It's not any of your business, though.

    And I see this guild really isn't an open minded, caring one. It's one that flames people for having different opinions.
    GOOD TO KNOW.

Estellio Estel
Pad, we accept differing opinions if they're reasonable and supportable, and it seems nobody really gave an unbiased reason behind the minority opinion. "You'll be a murderer" and "It's selfish" aren't reasons; they're attacks. (My personal opinion is that neither of these are true.)

Look, I find abortion unfavorable except in certain circumstances, and this is one of those certain circumstances where I understand the reasoning. Just because we accept her decision doesn't mean it's one we agree with. I suggest we back off of her now and let her do what she considers right.

    What if we think it is selfish, and she will be a murderer? Why should we change our mind because it's a friend?
    What makes them ATTACKS?

    Why doesn't "burn in hell" constitute as one if calling game selfish is?

Estellio Estel
They're attacks because they lack proof. If you want to say "Fetus' hearts start beating after two months, hence, aborting them would be murder", that's a reason. As for selfish? She was drunk. In certain criminal cases, that would cause the incident that created the fetus a rape because she lacked the ability to consent, and wouldn't you agree that no woman should have to produce from a rape?

My statement? It was an attack, I don't deny that. Ban me for flaming right now if you care to/care to get someone to do it. I just want people to kinda leave Game alone. gonk
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:25 pm


Turtle_Devil
Padme Potter of Hobbiton
HirunHikari
Darkmaniac
I usually like to slit mine with razors, use the blood to write my laundry list and then attempt to kill people

night guys, i'm gonna sleep on this and come to a decision in the morning

AND PAD IF YOU EVER GET IN THIS SITUATUION AND WANT TO ABORT THE ******** I WILL LAUGH MORE THAN IF I EVER MET KASABIAN, LOSTPROPHETS AND MUSE ALL AT ONCE.


Can you at least tell me what "Pad's side" was?

HirunHikari
User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.
    Pads side was that she was completly against it and thinks it's an irresponsibal desicion.

    It's not any of your business, though.

    And I see this guild really isn't an open minded, caring one. It's one that flames people for having different opinions.
    GOOD TO KNOW.

Estellio Estel
Padme, please stop now. Game is upset. People are only arguing because you made it seem like what Game believes in is wrong. Frankly, I don't have a religion because of all of the restrictions it would put on me. If I were in the situation, I would probably do the same thing. Back to the point. Padme, you can think its wrong, or irresponsible all you want, but please, keep your opinion to yourself. Its just like the phrase, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it."


Plus the fact that Game said that 'Pad told me to kill myself' doesn't exactly give ANYBODY a reason to want to be open-minded to Pixie.

Guys, seriously though, please do stop arguing. If you really want to argue over it, go to the ED. xP

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:26 pm


WELCOME TO THE CARBON CLONE OF THE WHOLE VC MESS.

ONLY WITH A DIFFERENT TOPIC.

CALM DOWN NOW OR I CALL ZAEYDE.
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