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phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:09 am


Oh, okay, that makes sense. You're pushing yourself to finish, then?


Underlining

Underlining is not for emphasis. Underlining is for certain kinds of citations in academic papers. It does not belong in your fiction manuscript unless you are submitting a short story to Byline magazine or are living in the mid-seventies and are writing on a typewriter. You have a computer. Your computer can have italics. Italics are like underlining, but for people who live in this millennium. When submitting by email, you still don't use underlines. You put underscores around the text that would be italicized, in case the recipient's email program strips formatting.

Stop using dead formatting, and italicize.

( heart you, Albireo)
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:17 am


Yes I'm trying to push to finish. Would be handy to have someone on hand to review what I do too, so I know where I'm screwing up. biggrin

Do people still try to underline? eek

II Ele II


phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:19 am


Yeah, I know how that is. And I've had a bunch of really nice and helpful people review my first chapter a lot. So I'm good on that. It's just the rest of it . . . .



Yes. I know it's a minor thing, and I'm not even one of those typography people, but it is offensive to my senses.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:24 am


phantomkitsune
Yeah, I know how that is. And I've had a bunch of really nice and helpful people review my first chapter a lot. So I'm good on that. It's just the rest of it . . . .



Yes. I know it's a minor thing, and I'm not even one of those typography people, but it is offensive to my senses.


I suppose once someone's made aware of something like that, they shouldn't forget. biggrin Just cringing at the thought of seeing paragraphs in a manuscript underlined because someone thinks it's important... I suppose the same could be said for overusage on italics and bold.

Where are you having your work critiqued? Are you taking into your group chapter by chapter?

II Ele II


phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:31 am


I don't know, it might be forgettable. I need a longer rant. One that is more insulting. Also need to edit my first rights rant to be more overtly sexual.

Yep. And I've harangued several friends into reading the first chapter. Eventually, hopefully, I'll get feedback on the rest.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:41 am


phantomkitsune
I don't know, it might be forgettable. I need a longer rant. One that is more insulting. Also need to edit my first rights rant to be more overtly sexual.

Yep. And I've harangued several friends into reading the first chapter. Eventually, hopefully, I'll get feedback on the rest.


Do you feel insulting is the way to drum it in to people? xD
Is it not sexual already? razz

Would it not help to use the first posts to link to your minirants? making it easier to find. biggrin

I'll have a think about more things to rant about...

edit: would blogging count as something you could rant about?

II Ele II


phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:08 pm


For things that are rants and not just informative blurbs (in other words, the things that annoy me), offensiveness makes me happy, even if it's not the most effective.

And it is, but I think it needs to be more so.

Oh, probably. I should get around to that.

Hmm, I guess. Would that be useful to you?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:57 pm


phantomkitsune
For things that are rants and not just informative blurbs (in other words, the things that annoy me), offensiveness makes me happy, even if it's not the most effective.

And it is, but I think it needs to be more so.

Oh, probably. I should get around to that.

Hmm, I guess. Would that be useful to you?


More info is always good. biggrin

II Ele II


phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:20 pm


Blogging

Blogging is a good way to connect with an audience; one of many. The advantages of a blog are that, unlike a forum, a blog is all about you. The other advantage of a blog is that, on sites like Wordpress or Google's Blogger, you can have additional pages on which to promote your work.

The additional pages and ability to blog about things that make you sound like an interesting person make this ideal for someone with works already available for sale or other services for sale - I have pages for my web design services, my illustrations, and my writing up on my blog.

The key to blogging is to blog regularly - it keeps you coming up in search results, and any readers you accumulate will keep coming back and recommend it to friends only if you keep adding content. And try to blog about your field, or about a fairly narrow range; I blog about social networking and the writing community in my area. Sometimes about actual writing, though that's fairly rare. A friend of mine who blogs blogs about the writing class she teaches at the local university, her adventures in self-publishing and e-publishing, and her garden. She also blogs about any writing-related projects she has going. Not a wide range; she doesn't blog about technology or celebrities. You carve out a niche with your blog, and hope it's one other people have noticed as being unfilled.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:41 pm


Do you think it's best to blog with your real name or a psuedonym if that's what you're going to use?

Thanks for the information though!

II Ele II


II Ele II

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:51 pm


Just done the list for you, complete with links (the least I can do for all the info you keep giving me). biggrin

Post 1:
Small run publishing
Self-Publishing
Epublishing

Post 2:
Why You Need An Editor
What Does An Editor Do?

Post 3:
Graphic Designers And Where To Find Them

Post 4:
The Fallacy of First Rights

Post 5:
Agents

Post 6:
Printing

Post 7:
Markets

Post 8:
Underlining

Post 9:
Blogging
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:08 pm


elementalWITHIN
Just done the list for you, complete with links (the least I can do for all the info you keep giving me). biggrin

Post 1:
Small run publishing
Self-Publishing
Epublishing

Post 2:
Why You Need An Editor
What Does An Editor Do?

Post 3:
Graphic Designers And Where To Find Them

Post 4:
The Fallacy of First Rights

Post 5:
Agents

Post 6:
Printing

Post 7:
Markets

Post 8:
Underlining

Post 9:
Blogging
Thank you!

I'll go put it up on the first post.


And pseudonyms thing coming next, then.

phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler


II Ele II

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:14 pm


phantomkitsune
Thank you!

I'll go put it up on the first post.


And pseudonyms thing coming next, then.


You're welcome.

Whoop! Awesome. biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:49 pm


Pseudonyms


Pseudonyms, or pen names, are a hot topic among a lot of writers. Some want to preserve their anonymity should they become famous, some want to write in multiple genres, some just don't want their grandmothers accidentally picking up their smut because it has a family name on it. Some want a pen name to sound "cooler."

They can go to hell.

Why you are not anonymous, ever

It's called the Internet. Unless you are planning on never, ever doing appearances (career suicide; you need fans. Fans want to meet authors. You will never become famous overnight to the point that reclusiveness makes you more in demand. Signings and book launches and talks about your books and appearances at conventions for people interested in your genre are what will garner you sales.), you will eventually meet a fan. They might not know you, or recognize you. But what if they get their picture taken with you? That goes on the internet. People will eventually recognize you.

And your publisher or agent needs to know who you are for you to get paid.

Something, somewhere, will always have your real name on it. That will happen.

Get over it. Your are not anonymous, and never will be unless you get off the Internet, burn off your fingerprints, electrolyze out all your hair, pull your teeth, and run off to live in the desert.

Reasons for a pseudonym that work

Nora Roberts, when she wanted to write outside her romance genre, took a pen name. This was both so fans of one could avoid picking up the very different other, and to establish herself as a multi-genre author. But this was only necessary or viable because she was already established and branded. Nora Roberts is very much her brand; they even put a seal on her new books to show that it hasn't been printed before. So, until you are an established brand in a genre, pseudonyms are not all that viable for writing in multiple genres. Orson Scott Card, for example, wrote a couple sci-fi series as well as religious stories under his own name because he wasn't established as a genre author; he was famous for one series, but it was the series and not the genre that pegged him.

Family and friends seeing your work and judging it is not really a concern for me; I can understand circumstances where it might be, but I wouldn't be writing stuff I'm not proud of. I mean, I'm not going to encourage them to read my romance novel, but it's not really all that much of an issue for me.

Placing, however, is an issue. If you write romance, for example, picking a pseudonym whose last name begins with 'D' or 'H' puts you right near a bunch of giants of the genre; that might be a consideration, especially if your real last name begins with, say, a 'W.' If you want to write under a pseudonym, pick one whose first letter begins with the same first letter as your favorite author; that way, if you get placed in the same genre area, you'll get some spillover from people looking for your favorite author.

A pseudonym is also extremely viable if you have an unpronounceable name, or one that isn't spelled at all phonetically, like Budzizweski (pronounced 'bood-IH-shef-ski' apparently). If you want people to be able to recommend you, they need to be able to say your name.

What to do with a pseudonym

Be consistent. If you use a pseudonym, that is your brand. Your blog should be under that name, and you should have a way to contact you under that name. Speaking engagements happen - you want people to be able to ask you to come speak. And, though this is not the article I was looking for, branding is important.

phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler


II Ele II

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:17 pm


Thanks for this. biggrin

Mine's more that I can't stand my surname. It's my dad's name and I don't want any link to him. Mum doesn't want me to use her maiden name, and I don't feel comfortable taking my stepdad's.
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