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Who did cloud like
Tifa
47%
 47%  [ 118 ]
Aries
50%
 50%  [ 125 ]
Yuffie
2%
 2%  [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 249


.[.pink.spider.].

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:32 pm


RanmaxHikaru


Too upfront! You have got to be kidding. When Aeris first met Cloud she was prying into his personal business like there was no tomorrow and if Cloud didn't have a problem with that I'm sure he doesn’t mind Yuffie either. Maybe Cloud doesn’t take her seriously at first but I'm sure that he dose later on or else you wouldn't be able to take her on the date. Also the number of affection points at the beginning has nothing to do with who Cloud likes more. Aeris has the most because she asked Cloud on the date in the first place. Tifa has the second most because she interacts with Cloud the most. And Yuffie is third because one she is originally a secret character, and two you don't get her until later on in the game so she has less time to gain affection points. The point is that Yuffie is a dateable girl just like Aeris and Tifa and has every right to be included in the triangle.


haha it can be a triangle if you add yuffie ^^
you dont much about aerith do you? its because you hate her that you make her seem nosy and annnoying
which are two things she isnt
but anyways
of course he takes her seriously battle wise
and thats why he invites her with them
but romantically? I just dont see it
the reason that yuffie and barret really are there
is for entertainment purposes
not because cloud has a thing for them

well actually there are alot like siblings
I mean even in advent children on the highwind
Yuffie says something like Cloud is still a pain in the a**
or something I cant fully recall
but doesnt that seem more of how you'd describe an annoying sibling?
seriously thats a great way to describe my brother

I'm not too much into the Yuffintine fandom
so I dont know enough to aruge with you
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:32 pm


.[.pink.spider.].

haha it can be a triangle if you add yuffie ^^
you dont much about aerith do you? its because you hate her that you make her seem nosy and annnoying
which are two things she isnt


It's not because I hate her that I think she's annoying. It's because she's annoying that I hate her (among other reasons).

.[.pink.spider.].
well actually there are alot like siblings
I mean even in advent children on the highwind
Yuffie says something like Cloud is still a pain in the a**
or something I cant fully recall
but doesnt that seem more of how you'd describe an annoying sibling?
seriously thats a great way to describe my brother


I see lovers and couples call each other "pain in the a**" all the time. That really doesn’t mean anything. And as far as Yuffie as Cloud's sibling Ewww!!! Yuffie is a potential love interest not a sister!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:49 pm


.[.pink.spider.].
soadshuyin

Alright, WHERE does she say in the game that she doesnt love Zack? Sure she makes a slight claim while sitting with Cloud that its behind her, but this couldve just been a natural reaction to claim youre single, since they had just met and Aeris immediately seemed to take fancy in Cloud. Dont try and say that it was in the novels, since those were fan-written material that was packaged and sold under the Squenix logo.

And how can you say shes exageratting a scene when youre doing the same damn thing? She has pointed out MULIPLE occurances through the game and the movie while you seem to cling to a few minor instances within the movie alone. Listen to yourself next time.


there are plenty of instances in the game where she repeadtly shows and says that she's over Zack
I dont think that Aerith is the type of person to hide her true feelings
and lie just because she is around Cloud, or another guy for a matter
thats not like her >>
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Zack is first mentioned while Aerith and Cloud are sitting on top of the cat slide in Sector 6
talking to one another
Zack wasnt mentioned by name
Here is the conversation.

Aerith "What rank were you?"
Cloud "Rank?"
Aerith "You know, in SOLDIER."
Cloud "Oh, I was...First Class."
Aerith "Just the same as him."
Cloud "The same as who?"
Aerith "My first boyfriend."
Cloud "You were... serious?"
Aerith "No. But I liked him for a while."
Cloud "I probably knew him. What was his name?"
Aerith "It doesn't really matter."


Did it ever acre to you that maybe talking about Zack makes her sad. It sounded like when she said "It doesn't really matter" she was trying to cut the conversation short because she doesn’t want to be reminded of him. And also by saying "they weren’t serious" sounds like she's trying to cover up the fact that she feels bad about him. Not to mention that actions speak louder then words. If she didn't love Zack then she wouldn't have been attracted to Cloud like she was in the first place, not to mention that throughout the whole game she keeps bring up Zack's name. Only near the end dose she really start to tell the two apart from each other. But by then it doesn’t mater because she dies and her and Cloud will never be together.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:27 pm


Aerith. Although Cloud left to join Soldier for Tifa, it changed when Aerith came along.

pyromaniac-chan


tetrasmaster

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:54 am


.[.pink.spider.].
RanmaxHikaru


Too upfront! You have got to be kidding. When Aeris first met Cloud she was prying into his personal business like there was no tomorrow and if Cloud didn't have a problem with that I'm sure he doesn’t mind Yuffie either. Maybe Cloud doesn’t take her seriously at first but I'm sure that he dose later on or else you wouldn't be able to take her on the date. Also the number of affection points at the beginning has nothing to do with who Cloud likes more. Aeris has the most because she asked Cloud on the date in the first place. Tifa has the second most because she interacts with Cloud the most. And Yuffie is third because one she is originally a secret character, and two you don't get her until later on in the game so she has less time to gain affection points. The point is that Yuffie is a dateable girl just like Aeris and Tifa and has every right to be included in the triangle.


haha it can be a triangle if you add yuffie ^^
you dont much about aerith do you? its because you hate her that you make her seem nosy and annnoying
which are two things she isnt
but anyways
of course he takes her seriously battle wise
and thats why he invites her with them
but romantically? I just dont see it
the reason that yuffie and barret really are there
is for entertainment purposes
not because cloud has a thing for them

well actually there are alot like siblings
I mean even in advent children on the highwind
Yuffie says something like Cloud is still a pain in the a**
or something I cant fully recall
but doesnt that seem more of how you'd describe an annoying sibling?
seriously thats a great way to describe my brother

I'm not too much into the Yuffintine fandom
so I dont know enough to aruge with you


One question, if they were like siblings, WHY would Yuffie kiss him? :/ I mean, I realize that's alternate, but all of the dates with the girls are, so that means they can ALL be used as proof--- I never did the gondola ride with Aerith, so what occurs? I never went on the date with Aerith either... So what occurs there, also?

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Aerith "What rank were you?"
Cloud "Rank?"
Aerith "You know, in SOLDIER."
Cloud "Oh, I was...First Class."
Aerith "Just the same as him."
Cloud "The same as who?"
Aerith "My first boyfriend."
Cloud "You were... serious?"
Aerith "No. But I liked him for a while."
Cloud "I probably knew him. What was his name?"
Aerith "It doesn't really matter."



Why would she even bring up her first boyfriend to Cloud? This is one of the reasons, where I see Aeris as a flirt. Why would she bring up "her old boyfriend" like that, and then deliberately NOT tell Cloud whom it is? You say at the end, she shakes her head quickly--- almost as if perhaps, she were nervous about something. Don't you shake your head "no" really fast when you're in denial, or trying to hide something? Maybe.
When Aerith says he's a real ladies man, etc...
This to me shows that she gave up on her realationship quickly.. if he never came back, 'was a real ladies man, and probably found someone else', when as matter of factly, hes dead, wouldnt this show that Aerith doesnt have much faith in her realationship? And why wouldnt it be safe to assum that shes not very faithful in her other realationships as well?
Also consider, maybe upon seeing Zack dead, seeing what truly happened to him, her faith in him was re-newed along with all of their memories of being together.
I hate Aerith for a number of reasons too, but I can admit to times when her and Cloud seemed like they could be together--
AC zooming in on her and Cloud's hand... I dont consider to be one of them. It doesnt MEAN shes the only one who can touch him, when obviously he and Tifa touch a lot as well. When they were laying in the flowers, their hands may of not of been touching, but they WERE touching *I rewatched it because of you, lol* And the scene seems to take a lot more of an 'intimate' feel then just the holding of hands. Did you notice, it 'zoomed in' on Cloud and Tifa's faces while they were laying in the flowers? Does that mean that Tifa can also touch Cloud, like your hand theory must surely, state? And surely, like Soad said, you're only evaluating one scene here...
So, yes, I guess Tifa WAS being rescued in the end. But why didn't make a note about the other scenes I mentioned? Because those must count as valid proof? Do you have any scenes, that count as valid proof too?
And what do you make of Tifa helping Cloud while he was in his subconsious? If she cant touch him, why was SHE able to help him? If she doesnt really understand him, why could she help him while he was in that state?
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This picture below, doesn't prove anything, I just thought it was cute how the kids drew Cloud and Tifa on the wall XD
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And, here's the picture of 'zooming in'.
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According to your standards, this should mean that Tifa can also 'really' touch him.
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"That reminds me."

cloud: "You again?" "Who are you?"

"You'll find out soon,but more importantly, 5 years ago..."

cloud: "Five years ago, Nibelhiem?"

"When you went to Mt. Nibel, Tifa was your guide, right?"

cloud: "Yeah, surprised me."

"But where was Tifa other than that?"

clod: "I dunno"

"It was a great chance for you two to see each other again."

cloud: "you're right."
^^^Ingame quotation source.

(This one below IS from a site, but it DOES happen in the game.)
Cloud
"............It's almost dawn..."

Tifa
"H, huh...?"

(He lifts his head further, just enough so that he can look at her.)

Cloud
"Sorry. Did I wake you...? It's almost dawn, Tifa."

(She lifts her head off his shoulder and looks around sleepily.)

Tifa
"Umm... G, good morning... Cloud."
"Give me a little longer... Just a little bit longer..."

(She rests his head on his shoulder again.)

Tifa
"This day will never come again... So let me have this moment..."

(He nods)

Cloud
"Yeah... okay."

(He lowers his head again.)

Cloud
"This is probably the last time we'll have together......"

(The scene fades to black.)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:26 am


Look a wolf head Promises Ring on Tifa's hand. Matching Cloud's earrings and pendent.

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When Tifa is talking about family and telling Cloud to stop running the camera zooms in on Tifa's hand with the ring on it.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promise_ring

A promise ring or friendship ring is a ring given to a boyfriend or girlfriend, to promise to be committed in a serious relationship. These indicate that serious courting is under-way. It can be given as a symbol that a couple does not feel that it is an appropriate time to consider engagement or marriage but are serious about each other and their relationship.
A common promise ring.

A promise ring can be worn on any finger on the left or right hand, although ring fingers are far preferred. Most often it is the left ring finger, but due to engagement confusion, the right ring finger is finding acceptance in today's world.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:00 pm


AC: The first encounter with Aeris

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As Aeris tuches Cloud he turns his head away from her
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This is the first encounter Cloud has with Aeris in almost two years. If he was so in love with her like Cleris clam then why aren’t they facing each other? Why aren’t they saying how much they love each other? It's because there is no romantic love involved here. Aeris says "Why did you come here?" and Clouds answers "I want to be forgiven." It’s that simple.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:27 pm


Cleris like to make a big deal about Aeris being the first person Cloud sees after Sephiroth has his little speech. So I have rewatched and reanalyzed the seen and here it is.

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Now if Cloud thought about Aeris after this was said I would probibly have to agree with the Cleris however he gose on to say more.

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After this is when he sees Aeris, Zack, Tifa, the kids and then all of them as a family. So what dose this say? It says that Aeris and Zack were both very important people that have defiantly been taken away by Sephiroth. Tifa and the kids are important people that can be taken away by Sephiroth. And after that thought he suddenly gets the strength to fight Sephiroth again. So this can't be used as a Cleris cannon proof since this seen can be taken either way.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:26 pm


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So much for Tifa not knowing Cloud. Tifa knows that even thought Cloud has been away from them recently he still keeps his phone with him signifying that he doesn’t really want to be alone but he feels he has to because of his Geostigma, which they talk about earlier. It also talks about the meaning of the cell phone in the Reunion Files.

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Here is another thing I have noticed. If Cloud really didn't want to have anything to do with Tifa then why dose he listen to her messages. I know lots of Cleris say "Oh Cloud has to listen to her messages to know his next delivery." Well, conceder this. If he really wanted to be left alone then why would he be going on deliveries to help Tifa provide for the Children?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:11 pm


The ending

Cleris like to make a big deail about Cloud smiling when he sees Aeris but never say anything about the way Cloud smiled at Tifa. Well here is it is.

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Here Cloud is with the children and looking at all of his friends.

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Here it zooms in on them with Tifa put in the canter of Clouds view.

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and smiling he says...

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Then he playes with the children some more and then smiles at Tifa while she smiles back.

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Then CLoud sees somthing...

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And then he sees Aeris and Zack.

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And here is Cloud's WTF! look.

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Aeris asks if he's better now while Zack gives him a wave and then they both proceed to walk out together leaving Cloud alone.

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Cloud still has his WTF! look

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Now Cloud smiles after Aeris has already left with Zack and then says "I'm not alone."

Now what was the point of this? The point was that Cloud and Tifa smiled at each other very sweetly like lovers while Cloud didn't smile at Aeris until she left with Zack. And even then he wasn't smiling at Aeris he was smiling at Aeris and Zack. SO again nothing romantic between Cloud and Aeris

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tetrasmaster

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:31 pm


I just wanted to say,
"Omfg".
Because, I never noticed that promised ring before. ^^: I think that counts as valid proof. Unless of course, some Could argue,
"How do you know Cloud gave it to her as a PROMISED ring?"
It could be just a gift that he gave her just for the mere sake of giving it to her, but to me that seems a bit farfetched. :O

Is there any prominent Cleris statements and pictures like this? :/
Just wondering, because I haven't seen ANY posted here just yet. XP
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:34 pm


I think that Cloud liked Aeris because of all of the emotions that they shared when they were together. They had their good and bad times but they stayed together throughout the game until Sephiroth killed her at the end of disk one. *still cries a little when bringing that up* <(; _ wink >

Kaz00m


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:48 pm


he liked both tiffa and aries but in the game it was aries frist then after she died it was tiffa but he just never let himself love again after areis
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:53 pm


LunarSong
I just wanted to say,
"Omfg".
Because, I never noticed that promised ring before. ^^: I think that counts as valid proof. Unless of course, some Could argue,
"How do you know Cloud gave it to her as a PROMISED ring?"
It could be just a gift that he gave her just for the mere sake of giving it to her, but to me that seems a bit farfetched. :O

Is there any prominent Cleris statements and pictures like this? :/
Just wondering, because I haven't seen ANY posted here just yet. XP
Wait.....a promissed ring. Who did cloud give a promissed ring too?

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RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:57 pm


joshua3793
LunarSong
I just wanted to say,
"Omfg".
Because, I never noticed that promised ring before. ^^: I think that counts as valid proof. Unless of course, some Could argue,
"How do you know Cloud gave it to her as a PROMISED ring?"
It could be just a gift that he gave her just for the mere sake of giving it to her, but to me that seems a bit farfetched. :O

Is there any prominent Cleris statements and pictures like this? :/
Just wondering, because I haven't seen ANY posted here just yet. XP
Wait.....a promissed ring. Who did cloud give a promissed ring too?


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