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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:54 am


I have one and a half questions!

First just to make sure I understand it because I haven't chosen any taijutsu styles yet. The eight gates style talks about increasing the users stats by one or two ranks ahead of someone but others talk about increasing it or supremely increasing it soo...

An increase is equal to one rank above
large increase is two ranks
and supreme is three ranks above

is this correct?


For the second one, I found some jutsu were re-trainable. Do I have to be the rank that I want to retrain it to? Like if I was chuunin and retained a jutsu could I only make it B rank or could I push it all the way up to A rank?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:48 am


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On Descriptors: To increase 'supremely' is to increase by one the rank of one of the main 'stats' [For the moment Strength, Speed, Reflexes, and Fortitude, so if you find one that doesn't fall into one of those categories we didn't catch let me know]. So if a technique is C-rank, and you have a supreme increase to Strength (how much it'll hurt), it would hit with B-rank power. However, it would still be C-rank in Speed (how fast you swing). If someone has a supreme increase to Reflexes (reaction speed), that means if a B-rank speed attack is thrown at them, they can dodge with a C-rank.

There's a two 'supreme' or a 12 descriptor [slightly, mildly, moderately, heavily, greatly, and supremely x2] permanent limit to each stat, meaning you can't have more than +2 ranks to any one stat permanently. However techniques that temporarily increase stats can still break that cap.

Anything between no descriptor and supremely is simply used to beat out a technique of the same rank. So if one person has no descriptor and the other has a 'mild' increase to, say, speed, the 'mild' attack would hit first because it's slightly faster.

So in the case of Eight Gates, if something increases stats by a Supreme amount, it means that all techniques act as one rank higher than they are [C is equivalent to B]. If it increases two ranks, they act as two ranks higher [C is equivalent to A].

Also if you find somewhere that doesn't give one of those six descriptors as the amount it was increased, let me know as well.

On Retrainable Jutsu: You must be of the rank that can learn the retrained technique in order to retrain the technique. So if you're D-rank and have a technique that can be retrained to A rank, you'd have to wait until C-rank to be able to train it. The same goes for Null or X rank techniques that are retrainable. You can train each rank up to B rank as a D-rank character, and must wait until C-rank for A and B-rank for S, respectively.

Likewise, you can only use up to B-rank chakra/stamina in a Null or X rank technique as a D-rank character.

I hope that helped. ^^

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:14 pm


Where do you apply to join a clan?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:56 pm


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Where do you apply to join a clan?


We have an assortment of clans and bloodlines to chose from that can be found in the Canon and Custom bloodline threads, located in the Character Creation subforum. As for the actual, application, it can be found in the Approval Area subforum, in the Bloodline Approval Section thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:15 pm


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Ayyy thanks m8. I'll have my application up in a bit then. TYTY
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:29 am


Whew! Bet you guys are sick of seeing me here huh? Do you draw lots to see who has to reply to me? :p

I was hoping to get a better understanding of Tenketsu. I understand that these refer to the chakra points on the human body. But say I hit someone with a jutsu that affected these points twice. So I am at 4/361 points cut off/destroyed. How does this relate to their chakra/stamia pools? Assuming the person's chakra pool who I just attacked was 600, then how much less would they have after I hit them?

Or am I wrong and it's like shutting off chakra to certain points? Like if I someone wanted to use chirdori and I preformed a Tenketsu technique on their hand so they can't flow chakra to it? If that's the case than how do I know when I have successfully cut off chakra to certain point of their body? Like where could I find out how many Tenketsu points the human arm has?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:40 am


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Whew! Bet you guys are sick of seeing me here huh? Do you draw lots to see who has to reply to me? :p

I was hoping to get a better understanding of Tenketsu. I understand that these refer to the chakra points on the human body. But say I hit someone with a jutsu that affected these points twice. So I am at 4/361 points cut off/destroyed. How does this relate to their chakra/stamia pools? Assuming the person's chakra pool who I just attacked was 600, then how much less would they have after I hit them?

Or am I wrong and it's like shutting off chakra to certain points? Like if I someone wanted to use chirdori and I preformed a Tenketsu technique on their hand so they can't flow chakra to it? If that's the case than how do I know when I have successfully cut off chakra to certain point of their body? Like where could I find out how many Tenketsu points the human arm has?


It's fine, that's what we're here for. =P

So the answers to your questions are partially a numbers game and partially roleplay. I'd recommend reading these short articles regarding Tenketsu and the Chakra Pathway System to get a better understanding of how cutting off a Tenketsu point would affect a character. But in a brief sense, it blocks off the ability to use chakra through that limb, and chakra pushed directly into the body can severely damage vital organs. In guild terms, hitting the same point twice would turn a chakra point back on, so they're like on/off switches. So say you hit someone's arm with it and shut down the pathway leading to their hand; because molding chakra, for the most part, requires two hands, they would no longer be able to use most chakra-based techniques.

There will probably be some edits to Byakugan in the near future to clarify the exact effects, and balance it out a little better.

As far as the numbers part of this, according to the Art of the Gentle Fist in the Byakugan informational section in the guild, it drains from their chakra pool the amount of chakra equal to the attack used. So if you used a B-rank technique, contact would drain 40 chakra from their pool. Mind you, this is the normal pool and not their max pool. They can still recover chakra, but a single hit with Gentle Fist can be devastating for their body.

So to answer the last few questions, you're only shutting off, not destroying the Tenketsu points. Unfortunately, canonly, there is no full map of all of the chakra points. However, it seems that, looking at images of what's been shown in the series--which consists of mostly waist up--there are three lines in each arm. I would have to say, you'd have to hit each of these points once in order to completely shut down chakra to that limb. But even if that may seem difficult, there are several points along each limb that could be shut off, and the Hyuuga train specifically in hitting this points.

In the end a lot of it is up to roleplay and roleplay ability. Moderators are always available to watch over battles, so if you run into any issues with another member not cooperating when a shut down clearly should have happened, feel free to message one of the Battle Mods.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:55 pm


I have a question regarding training particular kekkei genkai, fused element specifically wood release. How many posts does it take per rank, like can we use the requirements for training ninjustu, being

_T r a i n i n g
___• Rank (E) ○ 2 Posts
___• Rank (D) ○ 4 Posts
___• Rank (C) ○ 5 Posts
___• Rank (B) ○ 7 Posts
___• Rank (A) ○ 10 Posts
___• Rank (S) ○ 14 Posts

for reference or is it listed somewhere else? On top of that does anyplace such as the academy or dojo help with lowering cost of training or is it entirely separate? And are there any limits on just how much you can train

Oh and while I'm at it what is the highest mission a genin can take (difficulty wise)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:06 pm


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I have a question~
So, I'm going to be applying for the Combo Kekkei Genkai clan and I have a few questions:

1. CKG restrictions says,"Users do not receive the extra, optional attributes from those bloodlines, either. " Specifically if I were to go with Ranton, does that mean the Black Lightning Attribute does not apply?

2. Is auto-ranking a thing here? Like a test or whatever is necessary to test someone's ability to be in a leader role? Because I'm thinking of joining Otogakure, but there doesn't seem to be anyone active there to even teach others who would need to be taught.

Thank you for your help ^^;
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:51 pm


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I believe that's the one you use to learn ninjutsu, some techniques have their own learning post number, but whatever is listed in the jutsu subforum is the number for all ninjutsu techniques regardless of the type (Kekkei Genkai, seals, ect) unless otherwise stated.

And I also believe that it depends by village. A genin alone can't do higher than a D rank, but what he can be assigned is usually at the Kage's discretion.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:41 pm


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Because elemental bloodline techniques are considered Ninjutsu, they require the same post numbers and receive the same post reductions as Ninjutsu. The post requirements are those that you had listed there. The only exceptions to this are physical clans such as Hyuuga and Hakemoto, and Genjutsu clans such as Sakkakugan [although the post requirements for Genjutsu are the same Ns ninjutsu].

Training reductions received from training in the dojo or academy are listed here. Ninjutsu [including special categories like puppetry and medical] and Genjutsu receive reductions in the academy, and Taijutsu and Bukijutsu receive reductions in the dojo. Bloodline receives reductions according to the category of jutsu its techniques fall under. Some villages have the academy and dojo as one thread.

The highest mission, guild-wise, a character can take is one [1] rank above the rank equivalent to their title. So a Genin can take up to C-rank, Chuunin up to B-rank, etc. However, villages such as Kumo, as an example, require permission from a squad leader, adviser, or the kage themselves to do a mission above their own rank. At max, a Genin can receive rewards up to B-rank, if assigned by a kage.


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1. The statement mentioned refers specifically to optional attributes, such as Sharingan's 50% reduction to Katon technique costs [this is not a bloodline eligible for CKG, just using it as an example]. I'm not actually sure if there are any eligible bloodlines that have optional attributes, but in the case of Ranton, as that is a power they are all born with, they will have it regardless.

2. Everyone is required to start as a D-rank Genin, or they may choose to start as an E-rank [untrained] Academy Student soon, as we are coming out with a system for it. Characters created as Academy Students will get some bonuses that characters who start as Genin won't have access to.

As for Oto, unfortunately we cannot make exceptions to the rule. NPCs will play the part of teachers, and as we have a better organized group of mods than previously, these should be played without much issue. The few characters in Oto have been able to run on their own, but as more people join the village, mods will be stepping in to fill roles as needed until higher ranked shinobi are established in the village. As it is currently the headquarters of a long-lived enemy of the shinobi, shinobi of Otogakure are being oppressed as it stands.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:43 am


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1. The statement mentioned refers specifically to optional attributes, such as Sharingan's 50% reduction to Katon technique costs [this is not a bloodline eligible for CKG, just using it as an example]. I'm not actually sure if there are any eligible bloodlines that have optional attributes, but in the case of Ranton, as that is a power they are all born with, they will have it regardless.

2. Everyone is required to start as a D-rank Genin, or they may choose to start as an E-rank [untrained] Academy Student soon, as we are coming out with a system for it. Characters created as Academy Students will get some bonuses that characters who start as Genin won't have access to.

As for Oto, unfortunately we cannot make exceptions to the rule. NPCs will play the part of teachers, and as we have a better organized group of mods than previously, these should be played without much issue. The few characters in Oto have been able to run on their own, but as more people join the village, mods will be stepping in to fill roles as needed until higher ranked shinobi are established in the village. As it is currently the headquarters of a long-lived enemy of the shinobi, shinobi of Otogakure are being oppressed as it stands.


1. Gotcha, thank you!

2. Okay, I understand and thank makes sense. Is there a place where I could get updated on the story arcs present/past? Not sure if I completey missed it or not >.<

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:11 am


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You can find a little bit of old story here. Unfortunately, due to lack of activity in both the guild and the mods especially, no real record of events has been kept since about 2013. Essentially though, the villages are facing off against the United Hidden Villages [UHV] who have risen up after feeling oppressed by the greater powers. Each village has been attacked, and only barely managed to stave of the strikes until Sunagakure wiped the floor with them thanks to a massive Genjutsu used by the now-Mizukage. Moves are being made to take out the UHV once and for all.

Kirigakure as it was known is no more, having been flooded by a strange event where a seal at its heart lost control. The old village lies a kilometer underwater, and the new village has been built on small island and a massive tree where the seal once lay.

Kumogakure is recovering from an attack from strange ice creatures that could freeze with a touch, having lost nearly 7,000 civilians. They also have the looming threat of an army of giants that could potentially wipe out the hidden villages, let alone them. In the meanwhile tensions are beginning to rise between Kumogakure and Konohagakure, although the anger seems to be one-sided from the former, thanks to an event in the mountains where shinobi wearing leaf headbands were caught mining for a glowing blue stone.

All villages are preparing for the upcoming Chuunin Exams [likely happening in April now], where tensions might come to fruition or be resolved altogether.

As for what's happening in Konoha and Suna individually, I've no idea. Otogakure is the headquarters of the UHV but only has a few active members.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:42 pm


Where can the details for training and the different types be found? I noticed it was rather spread out or rather difficult to find. How does one learn or train for their first taijutsu/weapon style?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:06 pm


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Where can the details for training and the different types be found? I noticed it was rather spread out or rather difficult to find. How does one learn or train for their first taijutsu/weapon style?


Taijutsu and Bukijutsu can be found in their respective threads in the guild Jutsu List. The only reason Ninjutsu is so spread out is because of how many different types there are, each having its own thread. We are working on condensing the information to one thread though.
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