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(where is this not dodging thing coming from? Len hasn't attacked Ashura yet! its the other way around. Len is the one who's beend dodging and shrugging off Ashura's attacks!

I have allready given a good reason why Benten is not getting hurt by Hayata. I have even given Chris suggestions as to how to actually damage him. So why is everyone suddenly jumping on me for apparently god modding? Chris is the one god modding me! that's how this started because I called him out on it.

and yes Orochi WAS powerful, main word WAS. The point is that right NOW he is completely powerless. He has taken the biggest character nerf in this rp's history. So yes I do indeed can pull that, because its 100% true. He's a ten year old boy, and has all the powers of a 10 year old boy.

And yes I've considered that Tryton's children are suppose to be harder to kill, but so is Ashura. Once again why does Chris get away with all this yet I don't? Chris has shown no sign of Len being beatable, infact Len has dodged more s**t than Ashura has, yet all you do is bag on me. I'm tired of all these blatant double standards)

(sigh, i really dont like it when everyone starts fighting. kinda wish we can just get the first season over with really. i wont say anything about it though because one i'm not reading all of that. i just wanna say that kairi if you're like tired of arguing with pdragon and that you don't wanna deal with what he says in contrast to what you say why do you state anything in the first place? its clearly an argument between pdragon and david. i understand that you're inputting your own opinion but in all honesty to me if you arent going to keep up with it why try and argue in the first place?)

i see. i honestly dont know who to really side with. so i choose to be neutral and let things go its course. well, because one i refuse to read their really long arguments but i undersand being finicky about things.i will not lie i get agitated when something is not one right for me as well. i refuse to say anything though because i know somehow what i say will come out as nonsense because im trying to hard to see from this persons point of view or from another persons point of view. i prefer to let them work things out on their own. if i was in their position and someone just butts in out of nowhere. it gets me pretty pissed because on the first place it never involved you in it.

(ok so i skimmed threw most of the arguing, I believe the issue is god characters and shrugging of attacks or just plan ignoring them making tough characters ineffective.

So here is my stand point on this

First Daymond is a god of Chaos so he's free to do what ever he finds amusing, Helping the school is first to repay the favor of removing the 3 that had joined the school (and Spoilers they are the ones who originally sealed Daymond)

If Alabaster had let the 3 stay they would be helping in this fight and Daymond would be off doing whatever this was the choice I gave Pdragon to spice things up a bit, a choose your scenario setting

Second Gods are fine but god modding isn't, yes this guy is all powerful and final boss material, in any story their is the main villain that is untouchable when he arrives he creates an unbeatable scenario to cause more hardships for the hero.
With that said, taking a god character and saying ok you lose makes the fight really pointless, I haven't really used Daymond yet but I was going to weaken him in this since he was just unsealed not too long ago, and second Suwako kinda set the rules for a god, they're only as powerful as their followers If you don't have people worshiping you, you are not a strong good

So the god of Discord and Madness probably don't have a huge fan base so no I don't see them being strong, higher than a boss yes but able to deflect everything with out a sweat, not likely if they fighting a strong opponent

Finally yes we know Tryton's group is not going to win this but it still needs to be an epic battle or what's the point. )

once again I'd like to repeat the issue wasn't my god character brushing off all of his characters attacks. It was his character brushing off all of my god characters attacks. And by the way being the god of madness, that means everyone in the world with a mental illness is technically one of his followers, which means he has a pretty damn big fan base actually. I'm not saying Ashura should just steam roll over Len, ok I may have said that at one point but I'm retracting that statement because it is wrong, but at the same time Len can't just be completely impervious to someone who is suppose to be stronger than him. That's like the big bad guy showing up and then immediately getting b***h slapped by the heroes.

(i agree with that, first of all followers aren't necessarily people effect by madness but people who encourage it and wish for it, quite a difference
secondly it's a minor detail over all since it's impossible to actually gauge

but yes a god should be taken seriously they are not something that can be pushed aside or just shrugging off the attacks is a little disappointing but to be fair, I didn't even know Asura was a god until recently sorry if you announced it and I missed it but i legitimately thought just a strong guy in a mask
knowing know Asura is a god I take him a little more seriously but he still has to have some flaws, you do show that he isn't stable and can flub his attacks being the god of madness I expect not everything he does to make sense.

For Daymond, I am going with he is in a recovery mode so he's not strong secondly his mood changes so he may team with he school now but get bored and leave eventually, secondly his methods of help may not be beneficial to the school in the long run.
For fighting Daymond, my suggestion is be very adaptable as he does change the rules )

(i never said you abused his power you do should good restraint with him as he does make major mistakes while fighting
any way playing with gak now blaugh )

First off, in my first post I said these were concerns not complaints or a reason too try to start an argument. I tried to keep the peace, if you don't believe me check my first post on the matter. pdragon stated this, i never was arguing at all, only stating an opinion, not trying to argue, but I don't enjoy you throwing my characters under the bus.


First off, i didn't mean you're interfering with the plans now since I've managed to get around your God". What I meant by interfering was when you first came in with him knowing that the event that was supposed to happen was going to happen. Instead you brought your impossible to beat character to fight him. If I knew you were just going to let it happen to het,i would not have addresses this issue. Also there are reason why he's shrugging off your attacks. THE blindfolds inherited abilities from Tryton. Not all but some. You've seen Tryon use a time manipulation technique with his eyes. Len had something glowing from underneath his bandages. I tried to make it clear that most of the abilities the blindfolds had came from Tryton. Lazuli uses levitation. So does Tryton. Persephone conjures weapons, so does Tryton. Len uses time manipulation and creates dimensions. Tryton does the same which was revealed before he died and during a fight with Rina. The welder of the white jewel summons. Tryton dies so too which was revealed in the first missions. hell, they even created seals. What does Tryton do? oh yeah creates seals. I tried to make it obvious, but I guess it wasn't obvious enough. You're the one that said children should inherit something from their parents despite if their parents are different species or races. He also want effected by the illusion of his dad because he is the only blindfolds that didn't like his dad. He didn't care for him. But fighting his dad will slow him down and weaken him, although he ifs stronger than the mman. We never gotten to the fighting party between the two yet. Lastly, i didn't mean him godmodding in that way. I meant because he was a God in general and he's fighting in this battle. Other than that he's not godmodding. Im nor going to let him hit him with attacks that doesn't effect him though. The only attack that could actually effect him at the moment was the kick to the face and the Tryton summoning thing.

Also,i have been allowing Hayata to be getting hurt and it was obvious multiple times. When he got headbuttted i showed he had a mark on hits head. When he was attacked by the blizzard move, he hit the wall and coughed painfully. I evenpointed flaws in his moves myself. Also if Benten is as weak in the element ad you say, he should have been hurt multiple time. Explosives uses fire power, i know that. when thebombs set off, it's power equals to fire alone. so when he set off the bombs multiple times and git caught in the explosion he should have been hurt even alittle not to mention that Benten is a student rank character meaning that he's in the normal tier. That means Hayata should be putting up a alittle if a fight with him if he was normal tier or higher. in this case he's normal, so he should putting up a little struggle. Also he's the character im claiming to be godmodding. He's not getting effected by any of my attacks im being effected by his and my own. Whose to say Hayata isn't even trying to fight his hardest when chuckling is something to mask pain. If you see, his attacks are actually slowing down showing a sign of weakness. He's resorted to attacking the school which is something he doesn't do because he's not even smart.

I have not said once that Len was stronger than daymond or Ashura. None of the blindfolds are. The only person that I said was weaker than Len and the seven blindfolds was Tryton. You're adding words to my mouth. I actually said that daymond was stronger in the rp multiple times. I know both are stronger because they are gods. I've never classified the seven as God's nor do I want to because quite frankly I don't like the idea of having gods and that would make me a hypocrite to tell you guys I don't want God's and then create seven of my own. Plus if you ask me, i think it's boring having the strongest character that can't be beat. Also how in the world's can a God be beaten? unless they are weakened, i can see that, but no, your character show no sign of being weak.

Don't say I haven't been paying attention when I have three whole time. I've read almost every post and three whole reason for Ashura being involved my character so id course I read that. I know why he's here, i meant, i don't know why he's fighting Len and three shouldn't be. Haru and len's event was supposed to happen unlike the killing of Tryton so I understand why daymond got involved with mimi's and Alabaster's fight. If Ashura US as strong as he seems, he shouldn't be interfering if we establish this was going to happen.


The tier system it's understandable so that problem had been resolved because I forgot all about that voting thing, but I still don't like the idea of gods and didn't then.

Actually, with the whore nerfing thing you only nerfed orochi because of the story line. I nerfed my characters because of pass complaints and due to the fact I didn't want to make my characters God like. The only thing I can say however US that I used those doomsday moves knowing you guys all were going to get out of the situation. As far as minus, i realized I made him to strong nerfing him in three process. Id you see, without Lilith, he would have lost the fight between Minus and Plus. He actually seems completely weak in my opinion, so I only added one flaw for him and his brother. And if you want to put it like that, only a few of many characters have won fights so far, and most of the time ut was because I as fighting myself such as the Sen versus Ron fight. Other than that, i almost won any fight with my multiple characters. Not even the Dev Freysia Jon versus Len. So don't you pull that on me. My characters have took huge nerfing for the rp and despite what you say, im the only one that did it for the sake of the people not for the story line. You didn't nerf Orochi because off complaints or because you simply felt bad for your ultra strong character. I nerfed all mine for that reason, so im tied of you bringing that up because you did it for your own amusement.

ANd fine. toy want me to explain my characters? Okay sir back and let me.

Chris- weakness is water. will not go in it for s*** but does take baths, depending how high the water is. strengths are spirit powers. They don't work because id his two different sides.

Ron- weakness is areas that doesn't involve sounds, vacuum areas like space. It's hard for him to user his music abilities. Strengths include loud sounded areas preferably areas like a city or forests.

Plus- weakness are fights period. He isn't an offensive person and usually fights through strategy whenever he needs to fight. his strengths include healing people and fighting his brother alone.

Shaw- weakness are ice and sword base enemies. I've countlessly put him against enemies that use fire, but the Jubei Kairi and Chris fight proved his weakness although out was 3 on 1. his strengths is in fighting fire base characters. he lost to Oku due to her tremendous strength though.

Ten- weakness is reusing his own ability multiple times. He has too resort down to using his own hair ability when consumed too many people abilities and elements. his strengths are being attacked when using the ability. He pretty can barely get hurt until consumed too many abilities.

Jon- weakness is fighting against ice and water types. he's a pyro, it's obvious. strengths is fighting against fore types, but not dark fire people because he has yet to learn how to control that form of fire. Other people's fire besides Oku's doesn't effect him though.

MINUS- weakness is when allies are around him. When fighting against people, he uses his minus signs to take energy from people and this includes his allies. Strengths include fighting against his brother with allies.


Angel- weakness is fighting against people who uses darkness or light when not in either form. This was shown when he was fighting Melodie and Orochi who we both in states where they could use either element. Strengths include enemies who can't fly.

Lake- weaknesses are when using his water ability, if any gets separated, he can't go back to his physical form. THIS was said multiple times and luckily no one has caught I guess or else he would be dead by now. strengths include water terrains.

Cross- weakness includes explosive attacks and lava based attacks. Once again, said multiple times and every time her lost a fight that was used. strengths include fighting in rocky areas.


Mizu- weakness includes fighting people that fight with range weapons or when her magic id canceled out. strengths include fighting enemies who fight with closer combat.

Raimundo- weakness is people who can pierce through his shield. Shown multiple times when Cielle shot her arrow and when the bot from last assault basically blew it up. strengths include people who can't blow up his shield or piece through it.

Mimi- weakness includes fighting unconscious but her mist keeps her up and fighting. The mist is actually a being that made her into what she is today, her father. The mist is usually just to protect and isn't to good with fighting unless using its own weapons, but most weaponry aren't anything but normal weapons. Also when burnt she gets hurt more than a normal person would due to really sensitive skin. Strengths include when she is unconscious, she is almost untouchable unless you can get around her mist. Usually people don't make her unconscious in fights and usually just go in for the kill which it's why I made her fight alabaster because he's known for his sealing magic.

Melvin- weakness includes nfighting without his pet and fighting against nice people. He id's nice to people whose nice to him due to being a mama's boy, but when his family is in danger, he fights his fullest. also due to not having his powers develop yet since he's still young, he can't do much without his pet to aid him. Strengths include when fighting his enemies with his cat Grengar. He's also not too persuasive when he doesn't like you.

Len- weakness includes fighting people who can cut his crime scene tape. Also he isn't too strong against people who are quick. He also have a flaw in his ability that u explained. Earlier I explained that his dimensions not only effect himself but his enemies too. Let stay he creates a universe that makes himself 3 billions times stronger than normal, if his enemies are caught inside they will have the same effect. Same as his technique with making enemies turn on each other. If one of the army members got caught inside, he would turn on them too and they would so the same, but it only works on bad heated people. strengths include people that are slow, people with time manipulation powers, and people who can't fret through his dimensions.


There are you effing happy? you managed to make me wastes time because you sent me over the effing edge. Not ove have I tried to keep the argument to a minimal. i tried to stop am argument before it started. Im having too many people yelling at me when im not effing arguing. And if one more person says I am, im going to go crazy because I've been the peace maker before this started. I tired of the crap UN going through and once again your adding to it. Im trying to finish the rp before the year is over, but your causing me to stop because you have arguments to start. I avoided it like I said and kept on posting, but you stood posting just to argue. It's annoying. Instead of starting crap, calm yo t*ts and lets finish this, and talk to me calmly like I talked to you. D*mn