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ssAntonio

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:54 am


I mighty reckon the context has somethin' to do with meaning of a statement. Do pardon me if I do say so, but only a fool could believe the length of drool-ish words could exempt it from that.

And lordy, lordy, lordy, ya sure do like ex.. ex... exemplifying your vernacular prowess. I honestly can't say I can stand to focus on such large words much longer, I'll be conceding myself now, lil lady. Til next time, have ya self a nice day.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:24 pm


I have a question!

Since most of us missed the first day of class, Will we be using the second part of class to learn Hand seals? Since from my understanding you must have to train to know hand seals in order to learn jutsu correct?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:25 pm


Antonio, I recommend you watch your tone. I am merely humoring you to even bother further explicating something that is already self-explanatory. Let this be a standing warning.

Mika, I'll be separating out people who haven't done Jutsu before into a group to learn the handseals first. As for the timing, in the best event this will be before we get to the actual Henge lesson.

There's a visit scheduled to the Hospital for the day, the instructors there would be lecturing on the Minor Chakra Heal. A little adjustment with the circumstance, and a few of the new students could probably seize the opportunity to learn handseals early from an Eseinin.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:50 pm


Hello Proto, my name is Ele.

I just want to say this in the most respectful way possible. For future reference, you have a very condescending nature about yourself. You seem to be under the impression that because of what ever status you hold in this guild that you are somehow better than anyone else that post here. Contrary to what you might believe, it is possible to speak to or reprimand someone without being insulting or offensive. If you care to read this post before the early stages of self defensive aggression kick in, I hope that you gain a better understanding of how your words are very often misleading and result in such break downs in communication.


Quote:
Sai: Sooooo, we are freely able to just not do it though, right? Especially if it would be against our character's personality?

You: Considering the point reward, it's quite generous. And also, I am not beyond failing someone for the Genin Exams.



In this statement you imply that the penalty for not turning in the homework assignment could be failing from the Genin exams all together. Sai simply asked you to clarify this and in the very first sentence of your response, you are already being condescending. You took a very simple yes or no question and turned it into another chance to show off just how highly you think of yourself. FYI: Irregardless is not a word


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1. irregardless 818 up, 244 down
A word used by uneducated people intending to sound intelligent. Often, the defendant will use this word in court in an attempt to impress the judge and jury. Educated people notice and those who use this word instantly identify themselves to educated people as being uneducated. Educated people rarely correct them because it helps educated people more easily identify them if they are well groomed.
Uh... yes your Honor.... Irregardless of the the evidence, I was not the young man in the security video.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:53 pm


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Antonio, I recommend you watch your tone. I am merely humoring you to even bother further explicating something that is already self-explanatory. Let this be a standing warning.

Mika, I'll be separating out people who haven't done Jutsu before into a group to learn the handseals first. As for the timing, in the best event this will be before we get to the actual Henge lesson.

There's a visit scheduled to the Hospital for the day, the instructors there would be lecturing on the Minor Chakra Heal. A little adjustment with the circumstance, and a few of the new students could probably seize the opportunity to learn handseals early from an Eseinin.


I agree with Proto on this. As for the you newer members, please keep in mind that Proto as well as any other Kage/Crew runs this guild. You need to show some respect to the Crew/Kages as you would in any other guild. I am a former member of Crew so I understand that there can be a lot of questions. But keep in mind that if you can't understand what the Gaming System forum is teaching you, which should be frank and simple, you can always ask any Crew or Veteran of the guild. I wouldn't mind answering your questions as I said I was former crew and been apart of this guild since it first started 6 years ago. Some of you may think this is illogical and stupid as its Crew's responibiliity, but also understand that this is a guild where people come together and help each other not understand the system but also can learn how to improve rp skills and such. Hell I wouldn't be half the Rper if I never Rped with Proto.

I'm aware that there is another guild captain here, so I'm assuming that's you Antonio so I going to make this frank with you, This guild is different than most and its run differently than most. Actually every guild is ran differently than most other guilds. Is it okay to disagree and have questions about the system we have implemented, sure that's okay and the Crew are here to help you understand that (Hence why there is a Gaming System forum, to teach you guys the system) But as a former crew myself, I not liking your tone and the manner you taking this so I suggest you stop now. We had a lot of BS come in here and stir up trouble and you don't want to be included in that list cause we learned how to handle people like that.

This here is not an attack post or whatever you assume it to be. Just laying down the facts and simple solutions to these issues you may have as new members to the guild. But to put it frank, I not approving the behavior that some of the people here, not naming anybody, are making. So for those that are behaving in this inapporiate manner, I would like to ask (as a member of this guild that rather not see this everyday while logging in) to refrain and understand that Crew can be very busy at times and my not be there 24/7 to monitor everything. That's okay as we are people so I would like you to show respect for the Crew as you would like to be respected. Thank you
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:55 pm


Show me where Sai was being disrespectful, and I will show you were Proto was being disrespectful. Give and Get, that is simply common courtesy and good manners. It is not about what she is saying, it is the holyer than thou attitude that she imposes every single time. It was a yes or no question from a member who literally does not know the answer. Why does every question have to turn into "Oh ho ho, since you are not smart enough to understand. Here is an even more incomplete answer"

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:56 pm


Honestly, ss has the same tone. I felt much the same because of him on several occasions when you all arrived. Just move on and rp before this blows up.

Leave this where it is now, or I promise I will lock this thread. I've dealt with crap like this in my village, not going to deal with it here.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:57 pm


ele360
Hello Proto, my name is Ele.

I just want to say this in the most respectful way possible. For future reference, you have a very condescending nature about yourself. You seem to be under the impression that because of what ever status you hold in this guild that you are somehow better than anyone else that post here. Contrary to what you might believe, it is possible to speak to or reprimand someone without being insulting or offensive. If you care to read this post before the early stages of self defensive aggression kick in, I hope that you gain a better understanding of how your words are very often misleading and result in such break downs in communication.


Quote:
Sai: Sooooo, we are freely able to just not do it though, right? Especially if it would be against our character's personality?

You: Considering the point reward, it's quite generous. And also, I am not beyond failing someone for the Genin Exams.



In this statement you imply that the penalty for not turning in the homework assignment could be failing from the Genin exams all together. Sai simply asked you to clarify this and in the very first sentence of your response, you are already being condescending. You took a very simple yes or no question and turned it into another chance to show off just how highly you think of yourself. FYI: Irregardless is not a word


Quote:
Urban Dictionary (The only dictionary that would ever have this word)
1. irregardless 818 up, 244 down
A word used by uneducated people intending to sound intelligent. Often, the defendant will use this word in court in an attempt to impress the judge and jury. Educated people notice and those who use this word instantly identify themselves to educated people as being uneducated. Educated people rarely correct them because it helps educated people more easily identify them if they are well groomed.
Uh... yes your Honor.... Irregardless of the the evidence, I was not the young man in the security video.


Frankly, Proto doesn't have high regard for herself. She is the Kage of Konoha so she has every right to make the academy course in anyway she see fit, as long as it doesn't break or contradict guild rules. If you don't like that there are three other villages open you can try them out. Also as I said before, Crew work very hard to make this guild fun for everyone. So show a little respect for the Crew as you would except respect from them in return

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:01 pm


Who said that we disagree with her method? Where did anyone say that we are against her ruling? Where did anyone say that we were even contesting that? Believe me, we know about crew work. You would be shocked at the complexity of our system. This isn't about respecting her wishes as a Kage. This is about demanding that she speak to us, and our people with at least some level of curtesy and not immediately assume that because her response failed to answer all of Sai's question, that gives her the right to be condescending. This isn't a matter of Sai not being able to understand her answer. It is a matter of her giving incomplete answers. She says that she was talking about a hypothetical situation. Now how could someone, baring mind reading abilities, know that you are referring to a hypothetical situation when asked a direct question. Sai asked if not turning in the homework was enough to not graduate from the academy. Rather than simply say, Yes or No. She decided to give an even more indirect answer.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:04 pm


Last warning, if I even think this is turning into an arguement, this will be locked until everyone has simmered down.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:04 pm


Now lIke Gid has said, this is getting out of hand. Futhermore its getting really disrespectful so I recommend for those involved to stop immediately. Proto, Gid, Myself, as well as the other crew have dealt with this before where people couldn't log in to talk anymore to avoid this. We DON'T nor WILL tolerate this in the guild. You have been warned so drop it and drop it now. You are all young adults so lets start acting like it, not like a bunch of 3yr olds throwing a tantrum cause they didn't get a toy in their Happy Meal. So act your age and if you have any complaints, your are free to state them but in a reasonable manner, not in the way I've been seeing. That goes double for you Ele, that was in every aspect just rude and very uncalled for. Show a little respect for the crew as well as every member in this guild if you don't like then quit. We don't know how other guild are but we are one that has respect for one another so its expected for you to also follow this, as you aren't an exception to this ruie.....PERIOD.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:08 pm


ele360
Who said that we disagree with her method? Where did anyone say that we are against her ruling? Where did anyone say that we were even contesting that? Believe me, we know about crew work. You would be shocked at the complexity of our system. This isn't about respecting her wishes as a Kage. This is about demanding that she speak to us, and our people with at least some level of curtesy and not immediately assume that because her response failed to answer all of Sai's question, that gives her the right to be condescending. This isn't a matter of Sai not being able to understand her answer. It is a matter of her giving incomplete answers. She says that she was talking about a hypothetical situation. Now how could someone, baring mind reading abilities, know that you are referring to a hypothetical situation when asked a direct question. Sai asked if not turning in the homework was enough to not graduate from the academy. Rather than simply say, Yes or No. She decided to give an even more indirect answer.


And where does it give you the right to reply in the rude manner which you did. If you want a answer to your question in a calm and steady manner then you need to be patient with us. We are human too so we aren't going to be there on the spot 24/7 as I said. But you are acting really disrespectful about it and that uncalled for in this guild. We dealt with it enough as it is. This is your final warning, stop now while you can.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:08 pm


Here is exactly our point though you realize? All of this commotion, and yet still no one has even thought to say "Hey, I wonder why they are upset". If you think that I have been disrespectful, then you an at least see how she was being so equally. That, is the point. A simple yes or no question was turned into an excuse to talk down on a new member. If you all are unwilling to at the very least acknowledge this, then I see no point in staying in this guild. I wish you all the best of luck in future situations and hope that Proto does not cost you this many members again. Good Bye.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:08 pm


Ele if you really feel strongly about this, feel free to pm her and have a direct discussion with her, or BnW. Do not, however, clutter up this thread with senseless arguing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:09 pm


ele360
Here is exactly our point though you realize? All of this commotion, and yet still no one has even thought to say "Hey, I wonder why they are upset". If you think that I have been disrespectful, then you an at least see how she was being so equally. That, is the point. A simple yes or no question was turned into an excuse to talk down on a new member. If you all are unwilling to at the very least acknowledge this, then I see no point in staying in this guild. I wish you all the best of luck in future situations and hope that Proto does not cost you this many members again. Good Bye.

Good bye then.
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