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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:37 pm
(allright new rule. When blatantly ripping off preexisting characters. You need to ATLEAST change the name. I mean atleast pretend to be doing something original. Other than that it needs a bio as well)
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:14 pm
(I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story.
Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in,
So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books )
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:01 pm
Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities?
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:21 pm
Cielle glanced down to see Orochi sigh in depression, She draped her arms across his shoulders in an attempt to comfort him. She knew how he felt, everytime Orochi called this new girl "Onee-chan" Cielle couldn't help but feel a tiny stab of jealousy too. Suddenly the bell rang, scaring Cielle seeing as how she hadnt had a lesson in this school for five years. She took off after Orochi, thinking it would be a good idea to follow him as she had completely forgotten her timetable. Arriving at Alabaster's classroom, she tried to hide delight in seeing her teacher again and simply walked up to him and gave him a hug (which she had to admit, was awkward seeing how Alabaster in her eyes was always a serious person with no time for jokes nor joy.) Both of them were legal adults now so she supposed it was okay. Letting go, Cielle walked over to the desks and sat down in the front row.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:22 pm
pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities? (Sorry I have to disagree with that I more enjoying having the copy of the character and seeing how long I can stay in character before I'm forced to go "Ok I can't keep this up" also for this example you know it's Cirno why bother calling her something else? The name really doesn't make a difference, I mean she submitted a character and before she even gets a chance to post you're already critiquing it. and sorry RP abilities? care to elaborate on those, cause last i checked we only required you be able to post in a coherent sentence and stay relative to the story, Anyway I want to see her back story first before I make and comments on the character)
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:37 pm
Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities? (Sorry I have to disagree with that I more enjoying having the copy of the character and seeing how long I can stay in character before I'm forced to go "Ok I can't keep this up" also for this example you know it's Cirno why bother calling her something else? The name really doesn't make a difference, I mean she submitted a character and before she even gets a chance to post you're already critiquing it. and sorry RP abilities? care to elaborate on those, cause last i checked we only required you be able to post in a coherent sentence and stay relative to the story, Anyway I want to see her back story first before I make and comments on the character) (well to me it just seems lazy. Plus the kind of mentality of "I'll see how long I can go" just seems very bad for rping because your allready putting yourself on a time limit, which is bad for rps that might happen to want to last longer than 2 months. So what happens when you can't do it anymore? everyone else just has to deal with the fact your character suddenly starts contradicting how they've been acting the whole time? or you just give up and drop the character all together?(makes sense considering you do that alot actually). yes rp ability, your ability to interesting and satisfying posts. Yes I know that for this rp the requirements aren't high, that doesn't mean I can't personally expect someone to be better than the bare minimum. And honestly from what I've seen people who copy and paste characters are less creative and not as good at rping in general. I mean you use copied characters and you have on average the shortest posts, the most one liners, and constantly just skim posts missing and/or ignoring important information. Heck even in interacting you skip the majority of a characters dialog and just respond to maybe a sentence or two of someone's post. I know because you do this with Basili all the time. You ignore like 90% of my post and it makes me feel like my effort is wasted. So yes, I don't think its wrong to ask for more creativity and better quality from people. and calling the character a different name shows your atleast trying not to be obvious about it. It lets me think that maybe they just like the characters appearance and/or powers, but will make their personality unique. Once again its a creativity thing. If you can't even think of a different name then where's the fun for the other person? Sure you may think its fun to use copied characters, but I don't, and ultimately I'm the one who has to deal with it because I have to interact with that copied character. "I" ofcourse meaning everyone besides yourself in an rp. and she posted up a profile, so ofcourse I'm going to critque it, thats my job. If thats all she's gonna put up then thats all I have to go by when making a comment.)
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:51 pm
Orochi smiled back at Cielle as he ran down the hall. "come on Onee-san" he called out to her, not noticing any sort of jealousy she might have. Not that he would understand even if he did see something wrong, after all Musubi was his onee-chan, but Cielle was his onee-san, Musubi his big sister, Cielle the eldest, and Patchi his mom though she said he shouldn't look at her that way. Orochi and Cielle arrived in the room and Orochi sat down near the middle of the room, not to close to the teacher, but not at the back where the bad people sat either. Alabaster watched as Suwako came in and sat down, nodding his head slowly as if to return the bow she gave him. When she asked what today's lesson was about Alabaster flicked his wrist and a spell tag appeared between his fingers. "spell tags, specifically sealing ones. Though I'll explain why exactly when class starts" he told her. Having been paying attention to Suwako's question he was taken off guard when Cielle appeared out of no where and hugged him. His whole body remained rigid however and when he looked over at her his eyes held the same steely, stoic look they allways had. "and what exactly do you think your doing Ms. Cielle? Also you did not alert me that you would be gone, nor that you had returned. Given the many disappearances, kidnappings, and murders the school has gone through this year I would consider being more considerate and announcing when you plan to leave" he scolded her.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:02 pm
pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities? (Sorry I have to disagree with that I more enjoying having the copy of the character and seeing how long I can stay in character before I'm forced to go "Ok I can't keep this up" also for this example you know it's Cirno why bother calling her something else? The name really doesn't make a difference, I mean she submitted a character and before she even gets a chance to post you're already critiquing it. and sorry RP abilities? care to elaborate on those, cause last i checked we only required you be able to post in a coherent sentence and stay relative to the story, Anyway I want to see her back story first before I make and comments on the character) (well to me it just seems lazy. Plus the kind of mentality of "I'll see how long I can go" just seems very bad for rping because your allready putting yourself on a time limit, which is bad for rps that might happen to want to last longer than 2 months. So what happens when you can't do it anymore? everyone else just has to deal with the fact your character suddenly starts contradicting how they've been acting the whole time? or you just give up and drop the character all together?(makes sense considering you do that alot actually). yes rp ability, your ability to interesting and satisfying posts. Yes I know that for this rp the requirements aren't high, that doesn't mean I can't personally expect someone to be better than the bare minimum. And honestly from what I've seen people who copy and paste characters are less creative and not as good at rping in general. I mean you use copied characters and you have on average the shortest posts, the most one liners, and constantly just skim posts missing and/or ignoring important information. Heck even in interacting you skip the majority of a characters dialog and just respond to maybe a sentence or two of someone's post. I know because you do this with Basili all the time. You ignore like 90% of my post and it makes me feel like my effort is wasted. So yes, I don't think its wrong to ask for more creativity and better quality from people. and calling the character a different name shows your atleast trying not to be obvious about it. It lets me think that maybe they just like the characters appearance and/or powers, but will make their personality unique. Once again its a creativity thing. If you can't even think of a different name then where's the fun for the other person? Sure you may think its fun to use copied characters, but I don't, and ultimately I'm the one who has to deal with it because I have to interact with that copied character. "I" ofcourse meaning everyone besides yourself in an rp. and she posted up a profile, so ofcourse I'm going to critque it, thats my job. If thats all she's gonna put up then thats all I have to go by when making a comment.) (Sorry I don't have long posts, but when I read threw my posts I find my self going "wow that's a lot of useless information" so I tend to sum things up. Secondly I'm not strong reader so reading long posts is a bit of a challenge for me ok, it's hard for me to keep up when I have 3-4 long posts to read by the time i check on the rp read the post and go to respond chances are my post is too late becomes out of place as the scene has already carried on )
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:09 pm
"Sealing tags?" Suwako questioned but didn't ask any further as Alabaster clearly stated he would explain everything in class anyway so Suwako would be patient and wait for his explanation given how things were going around the school Suwako only assumed Alabaster was preparing for more conflicts and wanted the students to be ready, Sealing tags could be used to take a target down and neutralize there powers both quickly and effectively. Suwako sat at her desk and pondered to herself waiting for the lesson to begin thinking of different scenarios where sealing tags would be useful.
Suwako watched as Ceille came into the class room she had been gone for awhile, Suwako was a bit concerned but felt she was off somewhere training and thus unable to attend classes or missions. When Alabaster scolded her Suwako wanted to speak up but he did have a point for all the school could've assumed she was dead. Not wanting to get involved in the argument Suwako remained quiet.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:12 pm
(Damn it! there that's honestly the best I can do, I dragged that out and the best I get is 3 f***ing paragraphs. That's literally the best I have )
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:14 pm
Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities? (Sorry I have to disagree with that I more enjoying having the copy of the character and seeing how long I can stay in character before I'm forced to go "Ok I can't keep this up" also for this example you know it's Cirno why bother calling her something else? The name really doesn't make a difference, I mean she submitted a character and before she even gets a chance to post you're already critiquing it. and sorry RP abilities? care to elaborate on those, cause last i checked we only required you be able to post in a coherent sentence and stay relative to the story, Anyway I want to see her back story first before I make and comments on the character) (well to me it just seems lazy. Plus the kind of mentality of "I'll see how long I can go" just seems very bad for rping because your allready putting yourself on a time limit, which is bad for rps that might happen to want to last longer than 2 months. So what happens when you can't do it anymore? everyone else just has to deal with the fact your character suddenly starts contradicting how they've been acting the whole time? or you just give up and drop the character all together?(makes sense considering you do that alot actually). yes rp ability, your ability to interesting and satisfying posts. Yes I know that for this rp the requirements aren't high, that doesn't mean I can't personally expect someone to be better than the bare minimum. And honestly from what I've seen people who copy and paste characters are less creative and not as good at rping in general. I mean you use copied characters and you have on average the shortest posts, the most one liners, and constantly just skim posts missing and/or ignoring important information. Heck even in interacting you skip the majority of a characters dialog and just respond to maybe a sentence or two of someone's post. I know because you do this with Basili all the time. You ignore like 90% of my post and it makes me feel like my effort is wasted. So yes, I don't think its wrong to ask for more creativity and better quality from people. and calling the character a different name shows your atleast trying not to be obvious about it. It lets me think that maybe they just like the characters appearance and/or powers, but will make their personality unique. Once again its a creativity thing. If you can't even think of a different name then where's the fun for the other person? Sure you may think its fun to use copied characters, but I don't, and ultimately I'm the one who has to deal with it because I have to interact with that copied character. "I" ofcourse meaning everyone besides yourself in an rp. and she posted up a profile, so ofcourse I'm going to critque it, thats my job. If thats all she's gonna put up then thats all I have to go by when making a comment.) (Sorry I don't have long posts, but when I read threw my posts I find my self going "wow that's a lot of useless information" so I tend to sum things up. Secondly I'm not strong reader so reading long posts is a bit of a challenge for me ok, it's hard for me to keep up when I have 3-4 long posts to read by the time i check on the rp read the post and go to respond chances are my post is too late becomes out of place as the scene has already carried on ) (yeah but the thing is, that "useless information" might actually be interesting to read, or may actually flesh out your character more by conveying what they are thinking/feeling. and if you have useless information then replace it to relevant interesting information instead of just getting rid of it and leaving us with the bare minimum that is less fun to respond to. There's no reason that my character says like 4 things to you, and you only respond to one. And if my character physically interacts with yours I don't want it to just be ignored either. there's nothing more frustrating than being straight out ignored, especially when your putting in the effort to spruce up your own interactions. and I understand shorter posts when things are going fast, but if there are hours between posts you don't really have an excuse to make small posts or to miss out on key details. and if you find your post is made irrelavent, keep what you've allready wrote and instead add to it instead of rewritting the whole thing, because if you've noticed people will write how their character responded to thing that happened a few minutes ago even if the scene has moved on a bit, its ok because it shows your character wasn't just standing there drooling on themselves. Just do what I do and hit preview before you post and quick check how much of your post is still relevant. I mean there is a place for short to the point posts, but not all the time. I mean don't right a book yeah, but don't write a text message either.)
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:18 pm
pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (I have no room to talk since i'm using 3 touhou characters, but I atleast tried to give them a more expanding back ground and story. Other than that I don't mind a carbon copy of a character the challenge isn't being something different it's trying to stay in character and respond to a situation that the character normally isn't put in, So Lacey if you can just give Cirno some back ground she's good to go in my books ) yeah but if I want to see a character from a series, then I'll go watch/read/play that series. Because I garauntee the actual creators of that character will know that character better than you. I mean I have no problem with taking a characters apperance or even the basic premise. I do this myself, but you have to do atleast something original with them or whats the point? This is an original rp not a game cross over, if you can't even put effort into creating an original character what does that say about how your rping abilities? (Sorry I have to disagree with that I more enjoying having the copy of the character and seeing how long I can stay in character before I'm forced to go "Ok I can't keep this up" also for this example you know it's Cirno why bother calling her something else? The name really doesn't make a difference, I mean she submitted a character and before she even gets a chance to post you're already critiquing it. and sorry RP abilities? care to elaborate on those, cause last i checked we only required you be able to post in a coherent sentence and stay relative to the story, Anyway I want to see her back story first before I make and comments on the character) (well to me it just seems lazy. Plus the kind of mentality of "I'll see how long I can go" just seems very bad for rping because your allready putting yourself on a time limit, which is bad for rps that might happen to want to last longer than 2 months. So what happens when you can't do it anymore? everyone else just has to deal with the fact your character suddenly starts contradicting how they've been acting the whole time? or you just give up and drop the character all together?(makes sense considering you do that alot actually). yes rp ability, your ability to interesting and satisfying posts. Yes I know that for this rp the requirements aren't high, that doesn't mean I can't personally expect someone to be better than the bare minimum. And honestly from what I've seen people who copy and paste characters are less creative and not as good at rping in general. I mean you use copied characters and you have on average the shortest posts, the most one liners, and constantly just skim posts missing and/or ignoring important information. Heck even in interacting you skip the majority of a characters dialog and just respond to maybe a sentence or two of someone's post. I know because you do this with Basili all the time. You ignore like 90% of my post and it makes me feel like my effort is wasted. So yes, I don't think its wrong to ask for more creativity and better quality from people. and calling the character a different name shows your atleast trying not to be obvious about it. It lets me think that maybe they just like the characters appearance and/or powers, but will make their personality unique. Once again its a creativity thing. If you can't even think of a different name then where's the fun for the other person? Sure you may think its fun to use copied characters, but I don't, and ultimately I'm the one who has to deal with it because I have to interact with that copied character. "I" ofcourse meaning everyone besides yourself in an rp. and she posted up a profile, so ofcourse I'm going to critque it, thats my job. If thats all she's gonna put up then thats all I have to go by when making a comment.) (Sorry I don't have long posts, but when I read threw my posts I find my self going "wow that's a lot of useless information" so I tend to sum things up. Secondly I'm not strong reader so reading long posts is a bit of a challenge for me ok, it's hard for me to keep up when I have 3-4 long posts to read by the time i check on the rp read the post and go to respond chances are my post is too late becomes out of place as the scene has already carried on ) (yeah but the thing is, that "useless information" might actually be interesting to read, or may actually flesh out your character more by conveying what they are thinking/feeling. and if you have useless information then replace it to relevant interesting information instead of just getting rid of it and leaving us with the bare minimum that is less fun to respond to. There's no reason that my character says like 4 things to you, and you only respond to one. And if my character physically interacts with yours I don't want it to just be ignored either. there's nothing more frustrating than being straight out ignored, especially when your putting in the effort to spruce up your own interactions. and I understand shorter posts when things are going fast, but if there are hours between posts you don't really have an excuse to make small posts or to miss out on key details. and if you find your post is made irrelavent, keep what you've allready wrote and instead add to it instead of rewritting the whole thing, because if you've noticed people will write how their character responded to thing that happened a few minutes ago even if the scene has moved on a bit, its ok because it shows your character wasn't just standing there drooling on themselves. Just do what I do and hit preview before you post and quick check how much of your post is still relevant. I mean there is a place for short to the point posts, but not all the time. I mean don't right a book yeah, but don't write a text message either.) (thanks I am trying, really I am )
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:19 pm
Joker_Doom_Ace (Damn it! there that's honestly the best I can do, I dragged that out and the best I get is 3 f***ing paragraphs. That's literally the best I have ) (see and that's better. yeah there are some things that could have been cut out, but it was better than just a one liner. The idea is to find the balance of what is lazy and what is forced to find something more natural. Like I said there is a place for shorter posts, you just need to know where they are. Don't force yourself to drag out three paragraphs. Just one would have been fine considering your character wasn't really all that involved. If my character had been in a full blown conversation with yours and been doing things with them yes then having something of that length would have been more appropriate, but for this scene a shorter post would have been fine. Like I said if someone gives you less to work with then its fine to give less back, its just when someone give you a lot you should try to match them atleast (unless they're writing like 5 paragraphs, seriously ******** those guys) )
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:22 pm
Joker_Doom_Ace (Damn it! there that's honestly the best I can do, I dragged that out and the best I get is 3 f***ing paragraphs. That's literally the best I have ) also I hate to be a grammar nazi, but all of these were just big run on sentences not paragraphs.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:24 pm
pdragon619 Joker_Doom_Ace (Damn it! there that's honestly the best I can do, I dragged that out and the best I get is 3 f***ing paragraphs. That's literally the best I have ) also I hate to be a grammar nazi, but all of these were just big run on sentences not paragraphs. (heh heh good luck with that 12 years school couldn't teach me grammar)
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