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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:50 pm
WylrPnufh Cabron LaSwan WylrPnufh From this point onward, I'm on a cleaning strike. I just scrubbed(wiped down) the bathroom, did the dishes, took out the trash, swept the living room, kitchen, bathroom, hallway, and living room, and cleaned Lucifer's cage. I'm ******** done, till someone else starts doing s**t around here, ******** class="quote"> Cabron LaSwan I took your advice, kinda, about Logan. I left a nice little note in the not-filthy spot on his desk that my laptop usually fills. It reads: Quote: Nice try, you lazy a*****e Because, s**t turns out, when he "did the dishes" the other day, in order to get my laptop password back from me, so he can use it, he ******** lied. He made his grandma come over and wash them, and they both lied to me about it. I even ******** texted him saying "Hey, thanks for doing the dishes" "No Problem" fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkk Dess is about to get home from work. She's working weekends now or some s**t. >_> idgaf. It's not like she doesn't sleep till 5 on the weekends anyway. xD ilybabe <3 Mm, my attitude toward your guys' cleaning regime will probably cause more s**t than it'll solve; I don't think people who work should be exempt to cleaning up after themselves (since obviously the three of you all work and trying to get this guy to clean is futile). If it were my problem, I'd call a meeting between everyone in the house, assign everyone specific areas to stay on top of (incl. Logan, for whom I would use laptop privileges as a reward/punishment on a day-to-day basis), and if anyone says they should be exempt from cleaning because they work, I'd calmly point out that if everybody worked, the house would not simply clean itself. Nah, it's not like "Cleaning up after yourself" things. That's a given. Even everyone does that. Spill some toothpaste, clean it up Don't leave clothes on the bathroom floor. Rinse a dish when you're done with it. That's not the problem. The problem is like.. the cat litter. Ya know, sweeping, cause dust accumulates. Taking out the trash. Household CHORES. I mean, really, if you had a job, 6-3 every day, and you come home, and your roomate's been sitting on their a** all day long, and they PROCEED to sit on their a**, not paying rent, or doing anything, while you did the cat litter, while you took out the trash. I was fine, when I didn't have a job, taking on all (if not most) of the chores, but I just hate coming home, and s**t being dirty, and him not doing anything. And you also overestimate him. "Sitting down and having a meeting" is him saying "******** this s**t I Need to go smoke weed" (IE: He wouldn't sit down and talk about chores) Also, Yeah, it would be great to use the comptuer as a reward for him doing s**t, but he thinks he DESERVES everything. I almost had to call the cops on him today, cause if he doesn't get his way, he just starts smashing things, and he got all up in my face, pushed me down, and started ransacking my room, looking for the laptop, until I threatened him with cops. We came to a agreement, most of which was him shoving his finger in my face, telling me I'm disrespecting him, by not letting him use MY laptop all the time, cause he sold his for drug money, (and batting down my finger everytime it went up) He said, I dirty trash, I have a cat here (technically, everyone has one, that's 'theirs') I dirty dishes, he's not taking care of, and supporting ME that way, and I said I'm not taking care of HIM, and supporting HIM by letting him use my laptop, and he agreed to do dishes when he needs to. Basically, I needed to push and shove him back, until he was level headed enough to argue straight. It's all cool-ish now, though. I mean, he still has my computer, but with all the ultimatums and threats, I just figured it was better to come to some sort of an agreement with him, than to just keep it and have him break and smash more s**t. (For me to clean up) Unless somebody doesn't have a cat, doesn't make any trash at all, or doesn't shed hair or skin that becomes dust, I consider all of those things you listed 'cleaning up after oneself'. We take turns with it over here (except for, you know, Courtney, who doesn't do anything, goes on the defensive when you ask her to, and also refuses to attend house meetings)
I know it seems unfair that he doesn't do anything, but if he's going to continue not doing anything, relying on him to do what he clearly doesn't care about, whether or not the rest of you think it should be his responsibility, will only upset the people who do care about it. Like, if I spent 20 minutes bitching about the state of the kitchen and how I expect my roommates to clean up after themselves, at the end of that 20 minutes I'd have a dirty kitchen and a sour mood because I can't change anyone but myself. Instead, I spent that 20 minutes cleaning the kitchen and instating a rule where people who do not leave the kitchen in the state they found it in (read: clean) do not use the kitchen. Since then, the kitchen has stayed clean.
To be honest, going by your tone I think you let yourself get intimidated by his temper and settled for less than you think you deserve from him. But I hope he keeps his word for you regardless and that your situation improves.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:58 pm
Harusame Mizukishi Okay. xD Otherwise I was gonna apologize for being that loud all the time. XD All your laughing reminded me of a fun fact: People that can't control their laughter can't control their arousal, either. : D
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:00 pm
Dully I wanna add you on Skype D: Pwease? <3
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:08 pm
Terara Drakon Dully I wanna add you on Skype D: Pwease? <3 NNNNNNO.  Okayyeah. doooittt.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:54 pm
 ...Fffffuuuuck, why did I listen to the whole thing?
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:57 pm
The deadline for applications for my old teacher's job was 3 days ago... That means either we're doomed or we get a new teacher soon. Wish me luck Px
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:11 pm
Cabron LaSwan WylrPnufh Cabron LaSwan WylrPnufh From this point onward, I'm on a cleaning strike. I just scrubbed(wiped down) the bathroom, did the dishes, took out the trash, swept the living room, kitchen, bathroom, hallway, and living room, and cleaned Lucifer's cage. I'm ******** done, till someone else starts doing s**t around here, ******** class="quote"> Cabron LaSwan I took your advice, kinda, about Logan. I left a nice little note in the not-filthy spot on his desk that my laptop usually fills. It reads: Quote: Nice try, you lazy a*****e Because, s**t turns out, when he "did the dishes" the other day, in order to get my laptop password back from me, so he can use it, he ******** lied. He made his grandma come over and wash them, and they both lied to me about it. I even ******** texted him saying "Hey, thanks for doing the dishes" "No Problem" fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkk Dess is about to get home from work. She's working weekends now or some s**t. >_> idgaf. It's not like she doesn't sleep till 5 on the weekends anyway. xD ilybabe <3 Mm, my attitude toward your guys' cleaning regime will probably cause more s**t than it'll solve; I don't think people who work should be exempt to cleaning up after themselves (since obviously the three of you all work and trying to get this guy to clean is futile). If it were my problem, I'd call a meeting between everyone in the house, assign everyone specific areas to stay on top of (incl. Logan, for whom I would use laptop privileges as a reward/punishment on a day-to-day basis), and if anyone says they should be exempt from cleaning because they work, I'd calmly point out that if everybody worked, the house would not simply clean itself. Nah, it's not like "Cleaning up after yourself" things. That's a given. Even everyone does that. Spill some toothpaste, clean it up Don't leave clothes on the bathroom floor. Rinse a dish when you're done with it. That's not the problem. The problem is like.. the cat litter. Ya know, sweeping, cause dust accumulates. Taking out the trash. Household CHORES. I mean, really, if you had a job, 6-3 every day, and you come home, and your roomate's been sitting on their a** all day long, and they PROCEED to sit on their a**, not paying rent, or doing anything, while you did the cat litter, while you took out the trash. I was fine, when I didn't have a job, taking on all (if not most) of the chores, but I just hate coming home, and s**t being dirty, and him not doing anything. And you also overestimate him. "Sitting down and having a meeting" is him saying "******** this s**t I Need to go smoke weed" (IE: He wouldn't sit down and talk about chores) Also, Yeah, it would be great to use the comptuer as a reward for him doing s**t, but he thinks he DESERVES everything. I almost had to call the cops on him today, cause if he doesn't get his way, he just starts smashing things, and he got all up in my face, pushed me down, and started ransacking my room, looking for the laptop, until I threatened him with cops. We came to a agreement, most of which was him shoving his finger in my face, telling me I'm disrespecting him, by not letting him use MY laptop all the time, cause he sold his for drug money, (and batting down my finger everytime it went up) He said, I dirty trash, I have a cat here (technically, everyone has one, that's 'theirs') I dirty dishes, he's not taking care of, and supporting ME that way, and I said I'm not taking care of HIM, and supporting HIM by letting him use my laptop, and he agreed to do dishes when he needs to. Basically, I needed to push and shove him back, until he was level headed enough to argue straight. It's all cool-ish now, though. I mean, he still has my computer, but with all the ultimatums and threats, I just figured it was better to come to some sort of an agreement with him, than to just keep it and have him break and smash more s**t. (For me to clean up) Unless somebody doesn't have a cat, doesn't make any trash at all, or doesn't shed hair or skin that becomes dust, I consider all of those things you listed 'cleaning up after oneself'. We take turns with it over here (except for, you know, Courtney, who doesn't do anything, goes on the defensive when you ask her to, and also refuses to attend house meetings)
I know it seems unfair that he doesn't do anything, but if he's going to continue not doing anything, relying on him to do what he clearly doesn't care about, whether or not the rest of you think it should be his responsibility, will only upset the people who do care about it. Like, if I spent 20 minutes bitching about the state of the kitchen and how I expect my roommates to clean up after themselves, at the end of that 20 minutes I'd have a dirty kitchen and a sour mood because I can't change anyone but myself. Instead, I spent that 20 minutes cleaning the kitchen and instating a rule where people who do not leave the kitchen in the state they found it in (read: clean) do not use the kitchen. Since then, the kitchen has stayed clean.
To be honest, going by your tone I think you let yourself get intimidated by his temper and settled for less than you think you deserve from him. But I hope he keeps his word for you regardless and that your situation improves. The whole point is, if we use basic math. Working = +1 Chores = +1 Now, everyone should either have a 1, or a 2 at the end of the day. Not, some people have a 1 or a 2. Not Logan has a 0, and everyone else has like a... 1.5. Eh, I dunno. Bottom line is, it just bugs me that he sits on his a** all day, does nothing, and doesn't contribute to rent. We're kicking him out, September 1st basically, and renting out his room. xD.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:36 pm
WylrPnufh Cabron LaSwan WylrPnufh Cabron LaSwan WylrPnufh From this point onward, I'm on a cleaning strike. I just scrubbed(wiped down) the bathroom, did the dishes, took out the trash, swept the living room, kitchen, bathroom, hallway, and living room, and cleaned Lucifer's cage. I'm ******** done, till someone else starts doing s**t around here, ******** took your advice, kinda, about Logan. I left a nice little note in the not-filthy spot on his desk that my laptop usually fills. It reads: Because, s**t turns out, when he "did the dishes" the other day, in order to get my laptop password back from me, so he can use it, he ******** lied. He made his grandma come over and wash them, and they both lied to me about it. I even ******** texted him saying "Hey, thanks for doing the dishes" "No Problem" fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkk Dess is about to get home from work. She's working weekends now or some s**t. >_> idgaf. It's not like she doesn't sleep till 5 on the weekends anyway. xD ilybabe <3 Mm, my attitude toward your guys' cleaning regime will probably cause more s**t than it'll solve; I don't think people who work should be exempt to cleaning up after themselves (since obviously the three of you all work and trying to get this guy to clean is futile). If it were my problem, I'd call a meeting between everyone in the house, assign everyone specific areas to stay on top of (incl. Logan, for whom I would use laptop privileges as a reward/punishment on a day-to-day basis), and if anyone says they should be exempt from cleaning because they work, I'd calmly point out that if everybody worked, the house would not simply clean itself. Nah, it's not like "Cleaning up after yourself" things. That's a given. Even everyone does that. Spill some toothpaste, clean it up Don't leave clothes on the bathroom floor. Rinse a dish when you're done with it. That's not the problem. The problem is like.. the cat litter. Ya know, sweeping, cause dust accumulates. Taking out the trash. Household CHORES. I mean, really, if you had a job, 6-3 every day, and you come home, and your roomate's been sitting on their a** all day long, and they PROCEED to sit on their a**, not paying rent, or doing anything, while you did the cat litter, while you took out the trash. I was fine, when I didn't have a job, taking on all (if not most) of the chores, but I just hate coming home, and s**t being dirty, and him not doing anything. And you also overestimate him. "Sitting down and having a meeting" is him saying "******** this s**t I Need to go smoke weed" (IE: He wouldn't sit down and talk about chores) Also, Yeah, it would be great to use the comptuer as a reward for him doing s**t, but he thinks he DESERVES everything. I almost had to call the cops on him today, cause if he doesn't get his way, he just starts smashing things, and he got all up in my face, pushed me down, and started ransacking my room, looking for the laptop, until I threatened him with cops. We came to a agreement, most of which was him shoving his finger in my face, telling me I'm disrespecting him, by not letting him use MY laptop all the time, cause he sold his for drug money, (and batting down my finger everytime it went up) He said, I dirty trash, I have a cat here (technically, everyone has one, that's 'theirs') I dirty dishes, he's not taking care of, and supporting ME that way, and I said I'm not taking care of HIM, and supporting HIM by letting him use my laptop, and he agreed to do dishes when he needs to. Basically, I needed to push and shove him back, until he was level headed enough to argue straight. It's all cool-ish now, though. I mean, he still has my computer, but with all the ultimatums and threats, I just figured it was better to come to some sort of an agreement with him, than to just keep it and have him break and smash more s**t. (For me to clean up) Unless somebody doesn't have a cat, doesn't make any trash at all, or doesn't shed hair or skin that becomes dust, I consider all of those things you listed 'cleaning up after oneself'. We take turns with it over here (except for, you know, Courtney, who doesn't do anything, goes on the defensive when you ask her to, and also refuses to attend house meetings)
I know it seems unfair that he doesn't do anything, but if he's going to continue not doing anything, relying on him to do what he clearly doesn't care about, whether or not the rest of you think it should be his responsibility, will only upset the people who do care about it. Like, if I spent 20 minutes bitching about the state of the kitchen and how I expect my roommates to clean up after themselves, at the end of that 20 minutes I'd have a dirty kitchen and a sour mood because I can't change anyone but myself. Instead, I spent that 20 minutes cleaning the kitchen and instating a rule where people who do not leave the kitchen in the state they found it in (read: clean) do not use the kitchen. Since then, the kitchen has stayed clean.
To be honest, going by your tone I think you let yourself get intimidated by his temper and settled for less than you think you deserve from him. But I hope he keeps his word for you regardless and that your situation improves. The whole point is, if we use basic math. Working = +1 Chores = +1 Now, everyone should either have a 1, or a 2 at the end of the day. Not, some people have a 1 or a 2. Not Logan has a 0, and everyone else has like a... 1.5. Eh, I dunno. Bottom line is, it just bugs me that he sits on his a** all day, does nothing, and doesn't contribute to rent. We're kicking him out, September 1st basically, and renting out his room. xD. The whole point I was trying to make is that 'should' and 'is' are two different things, and 'is' is the only thing that realistically applies to every situation, since everyone's perception of 'should' varies; it's pointless to get hung up on the 'should' when the 'is' is what's bugging you. But I'm glad you're kicking him out; I wouldn't put up with that s**t either.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:58 pm
Dulnair Harusame Mizukishi Okay. xD Otherwise I was gonna apologize for being that loud all the time. XD All your laughing reminded me of a fun fact: People that can't control their laughter can't control their arousal, either. : D ...
wat
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:00 pm
Harusame Mizukishi Dulnair Harusame Mizukishi Okay. xD Otherwise I was gonna apologize for being that loud all the time. XD All your laughing reminded me of a fun fact: People that can't control their laughter can't control their arousal, either. biggrin ...
watWhen you pop a boner, you turn blue and become the incredible Hulk of lust.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:02 pm
Cabron LaSwan Harusame Mizukishi Dulnair Harusame Mizukishi Okay. xD Otherwise I was gonna apologize for being that loud all the time. XD All your laughing reminded me of a fun fact: People that can't control their laughter can't control their arousal, either. biggrin ...
watWhen you pop a boner, you turn blue and become the incredible Hulk of lust. wat xD
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:03 pm
Wantcookie  ...Fffffuuuuck, why did I listen to the whole thing? especially since you dont actually play the game XD and weren't there even. Next time i recommend we make one for each game and break them up.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:05 pm
Bullshit, I control my arousal fine. My laughter, on the other hand...
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:09 pm
Harusame Mizukishi Cabron LaSwan Harusame Mizukishi Dulnair Harusame Mizukishi Okay. xD Otherwise I was gonna apologize for being that loud all the time. XD All your laughing reminded me of a fun fact: People that can't control their laughter can't control their arousal, either. biggrin ...
watWhen you pop a boner, you turn blue and become the incredible Hulk of lust. wat xDDon't play dumb. I heard the way you laughed at me. d**k in hand.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:10 pm
Decavolty Bullshit, I control my arousal fine.My laughter, on the other hand... I imagined you totally ripped and wrestling a wriggling lustbeast like a conquering He-Man. I feel that this accurately describes what happens for you every time a hot a** walks past.
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