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Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:26 pm


Noelani Rules
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Kataang is expected, but Zutara is kind of just another Katara shipping.

Everyone ships her with, like, EVERYONE.
Like, I've even seen Zhao.

gonk


Zhao's dead. rofl

Exactly.

.___.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:26 am


[Anti-cow-juice]
Noelani Rules
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Kataang is expected, but Zutara is kind of just another Katara shipping.

Everyone ships her with, like, EVERYONE.
Like, I've even seen Zhao.

gonk


Zhao's dead. rofl

Exactly.

.___.


I miss Zhao sad sigh.

Zutara sucks. So does Jinko. talk2hand

The_Benefactor123


Noelani Rules

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:35 pm


Le Spiffy One
Noelani Rules
Le Spiffy One
Noelani Rules
Le Spiffy One
Somebody must have been eating carp because...you seem to be full of carp rightnow. talk2hand


Well you SAID no one would object to it, but I do. I'm just sayin' the truth, which is that IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
It's already been happening since they were all little kids and became the inseperable *song* Ozai's Angelllls.

Going to classes together...singing for the talent show...assaulting the judges when they didn't win the talent show...Ty Lee, ruling everyone in Gym class...taking the other kids' lunch money...giving Mai MAKE-OVERRRRS every Friday night...getting ice cream at the curb...


Yeah, there's a little something called BEST FRIENDS. Or even just friends. I 'love' my friends, but not in that way. xp Not even my friend who's a boy.
They can be shipped as BFFs too. =D

I mean, I ship Iroh and Toph as adoptive-father-figure.


Alright, but you're not talking about shipping them as best friends, are you? stare
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:08 am


[Anti-cow-juice]
Noelani Rules
[Anti-cow-juice]
Kataang is expected, but Zutara is kind of just another Katara shipping.

Everyone ships her with, like, EVERYONE.
Like, I've even seen Zhao.

gonk


Zhao's dead. rofl

Exactly.

.___.

[Try to realize the truth.





Good old Zombie love.

It can't be beat! XD




There is no spoon.]

Itinerant
Vice Captain


Captain Purpleheart

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:52 pm


M'kay.
One thing about Zutara, is that if Katara ran off with Zuko, how do you think Aang would feel?
At the moment, Aang loves Katara, not Toph, so I'm not going to get into that. (But I will say I think they're more like brother and sister.)

I think Katara would at least notice that Aang is extremely depressed if she was in love with Zuko.
And Katara would not do that to Aang.

Also, Katara and Zuko kiiiiiind of hate each other right now.
Just to clear that up.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:40 pm


The_Benefactor123
Zutara sucks. So does Jinko. talk2hand

Why hello thar, I agree with you biggrin

My thing against jinko is that Jin only appeared in a little episode that formed part of a bigger episode that consisted of little episodes written by different people that really just wrote their own ideas of the show down, and I suppose the best or more interesting were picked, so they don't have any real influence in the actual story.

And Zuko's tale was written by a woman. What woman doesn't want to see Zuko with the possibility of being happy?!

She's never coming back D:<

Lemon M.


Asher is Le Spiffy One

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:39 pm


lemon drop SURPRISE
M'kay.
One thing about Zutara, is that if Katara ran off with Zuko, how do you think Aang would feel?
At the moment, Aang loves Katara, not Toph, so I'm not going to get into that. (But I will say I think they're more like brother and sister.)

I think Katara would at least notice that Aang is extremely depressed if she was in love with Zuko.
And Katara would not do that to Aang.

Also, Katara and Zuko kiiiiiind of hate each other right now.
Just to clear that up.
Okay, but people don't get depressed because the kid they have a crush on is going out with somebody else. They get slightly, mildly irked.

They get depressed when they're best friend since they were five was kidnapped by sand bandits and is now either being tortured in Ba Sing Se, or maybe dead. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:53 pm


Le Spiffy One
lemon drop SURPRISE
M'kay.
One thing about Zutara, is that if Katara ran off with Zuko, how do you think Aang would feel?
At the moment, Aang loves Katara, not Toph, so I'm not going to get into that. (But I will say I think they're more like brother and sister.)

I think Katara would at least notice that Aang is extremely depressed if she was in love with Zuko.
And Katara would not do that to Aang.

Also, Katara and Zuko kiiiiiind of hate each other right now.
Just to clear that up.
Okay, but people don't get depressed because the kid they have a crush on is going out with somebody else. They get slightly, mildly irked.

They get depressed when they're best friend since they were five was kidnapped by sand bandits and is now either being tortured in Ba Sing Se, or maybe dead. 3nodding


[Try to realize the truth.






Yeah, I think Aang might be a little "LYKEZOMG WHY ZUKO?!?!!," but would eventually get over it. >.<

I really need to re-watch the series again (for like the 17th time), because I'm starting to blur fanfiction with canon. Eek. That's mildly depressing.


GO ZUTARA! > biggrin




There is no spoon.]



Itinerant
Vice Captain


Butterfly Nebula
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:40 am


One pairing I CANNOT STAND is Taang. I can stand almost ALL OTHER PAIRINGS except for Taang. Hell, I like Ozai x Tree better than Taang.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:22 pm


Butterfly Nebula
One pairing I CANNOT STAND is Taang. I can stand almost ALL OTHER PAIRINGS except for Taang. Hell, I like Ozai x Tree better than Taang.


[Try to realize the truth.





Ooh. Ozai x Tree is my OTCP for A:TLA.

But Taang is my second favorite ship. .__.;





There is no spoon.]



Itinerant
Vice Captain


daydream11

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:35 pm


Zutara is like Will and Elizabeth together:

BORING
DULL
YAWN-WORTHY
TYPICAL

Shall I go on?

Taang is every worse. So is Tokka. And Toru. Or basically any ship with Toph in it. I don't like her shipped. She doesn't deserve it, and she's too good for a man. Or a woman. Whichever way you swing. Please leave her alone.

Any Sokka ship, excluding Yuekka and Sokkla, is just plain stupid. ESPECIALLY Sukka. Suki gets on my nerves to no end (the Yue wannabe, Mary Sue, Earth Kingdom warrior leftovers) and Sokka deserves so much better.

Ozai does not belong to Ursa. Iroh does.

And stop bastadarding Kataang, people. Stop spreading Zutarian propoganda. kthxbye.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:14 am


daydream11
Zutara is like Will and Elizabeth together:

BORING
DULL
YAWN-WORTHY
TYPICAL

Shall I go on?

Taang is every worse. So is Tokka. And Toru. Or basically any ship with Toph in it. I don't like her shipped. She doesn't deserve it, and she's too good for a man. Or a woman. Whichever way you swing. Please leave her alone.

Any Sokka ship, excluding Yuekka and Sokkla, is just plain stupid. ESPECIALLY Sukka. Suki gets on my nerves to no end (the Yue wannabe, Mary Sue, Earth Kingdom warrior leftovers) and Sokka deserves so much better.

Ozai does not belong to Ursa. Iroh does.

And stop bastadarding Kataang, people. Stop spreading Zutarian propoganda. kthxbye.



Wooh! Some other s**t to bash! Right on!


A'iight. Will and Elizabeth of...?

That kind of makes/breaks your whole argument, and yet you left out that impertinent fact.

Toph's not good enough to have a boyfriend? Or, were you saying she's too good for anyone? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it can't happen, honey. By the way, your points contrast when you say "She doesn't deserve it" and then come right back and say "She's too good for a man." Which do you mean, because they're exact opposites.

Any other ship with Sokka is stupid because it's not what you ship? Sorry, hun, but in your own words, "Your argument is nixed."
Also, with your Suki bashing, you mixed it up. Yue is the Mary-Sue, Yue is the Suki-Wannabe, Yue is the little Water Tribe Princess who tried to be strong, but in the end just ended up looking dumb. Any ship from now on which includes Yue is, in essence, crack because it would involve whoever is with her ******** a goddamn fish.

By Sokkla, do you mean Azula and Sokka? That pairing is the epitome of all crack, hun. You can nix that argument for the same reasons people have been dissing Zutara. In other words, if you are going to use the argument that ******** a fire nation royalty would offend the rest of the Gaang (in terms of Katara and Zuko), then you can't turn around and have Sokka ******** the-spawn-of-Satan-princess, Azula. The only pairing Azula belongs in is that of AzulaxViolent Death/Torture -> Violent death.

Ozai and Iroh? Is that what you're saying? Or was it UrsaxIroh? I don't exactly understand WTF you're talking about, seeing as how NOONE ships the canon pairings with Iroh. Unless you want to start your own little "I think Iroh should hook up with every over 50 in the show" group, don't even bother bringing it up.

And, what could you mean by "bastadarding Kataang"? WTF is a Bastadard? Could you, maybe mean "Bastardising?"

And if you want to accuse us Zutarians of spreading propaganda, at least learn to spell it right. And, by the way, I assume you're using propaganda to mean "lies", when in fact, it means:

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prop·a·gan·da (prŏp'ə-gān'də)
n.

The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

("propaganda." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Jun. 2007. )
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It is simply a statement enforced by a group of people. Therefore:

Zutarian propaganda forever!


Itinerant
Vice Captain


AirGirl Phantom

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:10 pm


Appuru-Pai
daydream11
Zutara is like Will and Elizabeth together:

BORING
DULL
YAWN-WORTHY
TYPICAL

Shall I go on?

Taang is every worse. So is Tokka. And Toru. Or basically any ship with Toph in it. I don't like her shipped. She doesn't deserve it, and she's too good for a man. Or a woman. Whichever way you swing. Please leave her alone.

Any Sokka ship, excluding Yuekka and Sokkla, is just plain stupid. ESPECIALLY Sukka. Suki gets on my nerves to no end (the Yue wannabe, Mary Sue, Earth Kingdom warrior leftovers) and Sokka deserves so much better.

Ozai does not belong to Ursa. Iroh does.

And stop bastadarding Kataang, people. Stop spreading Zutarian propoganda. kthxbye.



Wooh! Some other s**t to bash! Right on!


A'iight. Will and Elizabeth of...?

That kind of makes/breaks your whole argument, and yet you left out that impertinent fact.

Toph's not good enough to have a boyfriend? Or, were you saying she's too good for anyone? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it can't happen, honey. By the way, your points contrast when you say "She doesn't deserve it" and then come right back and say "She's too good for a man." Which do you mean, because they're exact opposites.

Any other ship with Sokka is stupid because it's not what you ship? Sorry, hun, but in your own words, "Your argument is nixed."
Also, with your Suki bashing, you mixed it up. Yue is the Mary-Sue, Yue is the Suki-Wannabe, Yue is the little Water Tribe Princess who tried to be strong, but in the end just ended up looking dumb. Any ship from now on which includes Yue is, in essence, crack because it would involve whoever is with her ******** a goddamn fish.

By Sokkla, do you mean Azula and Sokka? That pairing is the epitome of all crack, hun. You can nix that argument for the same reasons people have been dissing Zutara. In other words, if you are going to use the argument that ******** a fire nation royalty would offend the rest of the Gaang (in terms of Katara and Zuko), then you can't turn around and have Sokka ******** the-spawn-of-Satan-princess, Azula. The only pairing Azula belongs in is that of AzulaxViolent Death/Torture -> Violent death.

Ozai and Iroh? Is that what you're saying? Or was it UrsaxIroh? I don't exactly understand WTF you're talking about, seeing as how NOONE ships the canon pairings with Iroh. Unless you want to start your own little "I think Iroh should hook up with every over 50 in the show" group, don't even bother bringing it up.

And, what could you mean by "bastadarding Kataang"? WTF is a Bastadard? Could you, maybe mean "Bastardising?"

And if you want to accuse us Zutarians of spreading propaganda, at least learn to spell it right. And, by the way, I assume you're using propaganda to mean "lies", when in fact, it means:

-------
prop·a·gan·da (prŏp'ə-gān'də)
n.

The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

("propaganda." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Jun. 2007. )
-------
It is simply a statement enforced by a group of people. Therefore:

Zutarian propaganda forever!



FINALLY! Another Will/Elizabeth hater! (BTW, it's from PotC) They are indeed boring. I like Elizabeth/Jack.

Anyway, on topic...

"She doesn't deserve it" can be both a synonym and an antonym of "she's too good for a man". After all, Appuru-Pai didn't specify what "it" is, and whether the phrase is seeing Toph in a good or bad light.

I like Taang, but only in fanon. I know it'll never happen in canon. Aang is too in love with Katara to see Toph in a romantic light. If there are any ever supposedly Taang moments in canon, it's actually just normal awkward adolescents-of-two-opposite-sexes moments or good friend moments. Most of the time they're comfortable around each other though.

Yes, Yue bashing! I really didn't like her. She was too... everything, actually. I have the feeling that she was nothing but a stupid plot device to cause Sokka pain and advance his character (which honestly still needs a lot of advancing).

Of course Sokkla is crack! But I still love it. It's probably my favorite crack ship. I know it won't happen in canon. But it's just so cool! (Though Azula/Violent Death is much more suitable on Azula's end. I helped in the creation of that ship you know. *ego inflates*)

I think that Suki is dead and, sometime near the end of the series, Toph and Sokka will either get together, or a romantic relationship will at least be hinted at.

I prefer to not get involved in the affairs of the OzaixUrsaxIroh thing, because it's just way out of my league, and I don't understand why people bother with it anyway.

Oh boy, the controversy of Kataang and Zutara... I ship Kataang. For all Kataang AND Zutara shippers, I beg you to read these two Live Journal entries I stumbled across:

Go Jump in the River
More Than Normal

The first is about why Zutara won't happen in canon, and the second is a ship manifesto about Kataang. Both are extremely well written. In fact, the first one converted me from Jinko to Maiko!

I'll allow "Go Jump in the River" to speak for my views on Zutara, and "More Than Normal" to speak for my views on Kataang.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:20 pm


Ooh, Appuru, you were right, this is fun.

daydream11
Zutara is like Will and Elizabeth together:

BORING
DULL
YAWN-WORTHY
TYPICAL

Shall I go on?


You wanna know what's boring? Kataang. Now THERE'S a boring relationship for you. There is nothing DULLER in the Avatar fandom than Kataang. A blind sheep with a brain hemorrhage could figure out Kataang was going to happen.

I personally like Zutara about 10 times more than Kataang. No, it isn't BORING, or TYPICAL. They are more or less SWORN ENEMIES. It's WORSE than Romeo and Juliet. At least Romeo and Juliet had no grudge against each other from the start.

So what if we want a little FIRE in the relationship (excuse the pun)? Relationships aren't all la-di-da-isn't life wonderful. Katara and Aang are NOT compatible romantically. As friends, sure, they're great. As lovers, nuh uh. That'd be like incest, with the kind of relationship they have.

Is Kataang or Zutara going to happen in the actual series? Hell if I know, but I'll be surprised if it isn't Kataang. That doesn't mean that Zutara is UNWORTHY of shipping love.

daydream11
Taang is every worse. So is Tokka. And Toru. Or basically any ship with Toph in it. I don't like her shipped. She doesn't deserve it, and she's too good for a man. Or a woman. Whichever way you swing. Please leave her alone.


Okay, this is JUST ABOUT IT. I am sick and tired, SICK AND TIRED, of all those who say Toph doesn't need a man.

You know what? No, she doesn't NEED a man. She is perfectly capable of taking care of herself. However, just because she doesn't NEED something doesn't mean she doesn't WANT something. Just because someone's strong doesn't mean they don't want love. Wake-up call, Toph is human, and humans want love.

And no, she is not TOO GOOD for a partner. Again, she's a HUMAN. And don't you daaaaare say what she does and doesn't deserve. She'll take what she damn well pleases. If she wants love, she'll take love, and there's nothing you can do about it.

daydream11
Any Sokka ship, excluding Yuekka and Sokkla, is just plain stupid. ESPECIALLY Sukka. Suki gets on my nerves to no end (the Yue wannabe, Mary Sue, Earth Kingdom warrior leftovers) and Sokka deserves so much better.


What the hell is Sokkla? I have a feeling it's Azula/Sokka, in which case, NO, NO, NO, NO, GOD NO. Okay, I know what some might say to this. "But if you can do Zutara you can do Sokkla~" Okay, NO. Azula is a psychotic murdering b***h who will not ever, EVER love anyone. EVER. Sokka hates the Fire Nation WITH A PASSION, not to mention that Azula KILLED Suki, who, yeah, by the way, he liked whether you like it or not.

As far as Yuokka, yeah sure, it was cute while she was alive, but she's dead as a doorknob, let's get over it, ay?

Sukka. Sigh. Okay. I personally don't particularly like Sukka, mainly because it seems to be the only Sokka ship in the way of my ship-of-choice, Tokka, but I do like Suki. First off, SUKI WAS THERE FIRST. She is NOT 'Earth Kingdom leftovers'. Secondly, Yue-wannabe?! Suki is HER OWN WOMAN, something Yue is definitely NOT. (Yue runs off crying every 2 minutes, has the personality of a wet towel, and is frankly a bit of a b***h.) Mary Sue? MARY SUE?! Read Appuru-Pai's post for my feelings on this.

daydream11
Ozai does not belong to Ursa. Iroh does.

Excusemewha? How in god's name did you come up with this? Okay, Ozai and Ursa weren't exactly an ideal match, but there is no romance, NO ROMANCE WHATSOEVER, between Iroh and Ursa. Firstly, because I think Ozai thinks/thought of Ursa as his property and would SMITE Iroh if that ever happened. Secondly, for anyone who has a brother or sister who was dating/married someone, you'll know that YOU DO NOT THINK OF THEM THAT WAY. EVER. EEEEEVER.

daydream11
And stop bastadarding Kataang, people. Stop spreading Zutarian propoganda. kthxbye.

Bastardizing? Honey, we're simply telling the truth. Kataang IS boring, it IS predictable. As far as the LIKELIHOOD of it happening, I dunno. I'm kind of on the fence. I agree with those who say they might pull a Digimon on us (have the expected main-characters pairing FALL APART and have the chick go with the other guy), but then I think that the chances are better of them just going along with Kataang.

As far as Zutarian propaganda... Urgh. I don't even know what to say. Honestly, more people make inane points in support of Kataang than they do in support of Zutara.

Butterfly Nebula
Crew


Itinerant
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:46 pm


I shall be referring to AirGirlPhantom's post. I'll only quote the good stuff, because it's too long to keep re-quoting. >.<


Firstly, Hun, did you write your response on auto-pilot? Because there were a couple of things there that were a little on the random side. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were too tired to notice when you responded.


Were you referring to me when you said "Another Will/Elizabeth Hater"? Because I'm not. I'm a Will/Elizabeth shipper, if anything, because anything that has Mister Bloom is good enough for me biggrin


Quote:

"She doesn't deserve it" can be both a synonym and an antonym of "she's too good for a man". After all, Appuru-Pai didn't specify what "it" is, and whether the phrase is seeing Toph in a good or bad light.


You are correct, in two ways. I did not state what "it" was, however that was not needed for my argument. I assume you are referring to the fact that daydream11 did not state what "it" was, which totally changes your argument. You're right, she didn't really specify whether or not she was Toph-Bashing. For the sake of my argument, though, I took her statement as Toph-Bashing and reacted accordingly. I will wait until I hear further comment on the statement in question from said authoress before I argue my point anymore.

Aha. You can never be sure about the fanon verses the cannon until the series is dead. Even then, you can't be sure, because someone could come back with a sequel and ******** everything up. You'll have to wait until season 3 ends to make any assumptions about Taang.

I agree. Yue was only there to solemnify Sokka so he wasn't only seen as comedic relief. However, all it accomplished was making him look like a man-whore.

Aye hun, you did aid in converting the world to the Azula / Violent death pairing. You can keep your slightly inflated ego. Until some other basher comes and squishes it like an ant-beetle.

I believe that Toph and Sokka will never have any "romantic interest" in each other. I don't think the creators would do something like that, and Sokka already has like 723 women already. But then again, that's just me and my hypocrisy.

By the way, if you want to advertise manifestos that are anti-Zutara and/or pro-Kataang, or visa versa, you shouldn't label them as such. I promise you, you'll get tons more people to read them.


EDIT: Wooh! Butterfly, you go girl! Way to kick some arguing a** xD

See? It's insanely fun and not too difficult, once you get the hang of it. I find it to be ten times more fun than RPing, if you can find someone to argue with.
(This post was only edited so I didn't make a double post. Aha!)
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