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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:20 am
Xanos Achite Hixton Hrm. Attacking in a line... Ok.. I THINK I know what you mean. This does NOT mean coming straight at your opponent. This sounds a lot like, what we call in Wing Chun, the opponents center-line. It means attacking thier balance directly.. Wow.. it IS hard to describe. Their center line shifts as their legs do, but you can find it when you push someone. There will always be a direction where you can push them, where they cannot fight back. ALWAYS. Try it, have someone stand if whatever fighting stance they want, and walk around them pushing in different directions. You'll find a point or two where they are easy to push over (or a lot easier than the rest of the points at least). That's their center line. blah blah blah... I probobly did a terrible job explaining.. but... whatever. I tried blaugh . So basically you look at there stance, find about where the center of gravity is and then figure out the best tactic or technique to knock them off balance and/or continue with techniques to finish the match or fight? it sounds like it could work with fast and speedy movements, but then again if your oppenent is continually moving around you(side to side, drifting forwards and backwards) it's kind of hard to get the correct hit in, unless they are crossing there legs as they move, then you can just charge them and watch them fall, lol. That's exactly what I meant surprised It takes some practice when it comes to just looking at a stance. Feeling while fighting is easier. And about your opponent that keeps moving... We use ryukas for that. An attack that keeps coming, really fast. Usually to the head. The person has no choice but to lift the arms to protect the head, which opens up the stomach area. Some people know that will happen, but the stomach usually hurts less. During the ryuka, the person has no idea what you'll have planned, and can't see it. So you can do practically anything. But there are other things like "sticky hands" that can keep you close to your opponent and feel when he/she is unbalanced, or where. And lets not forget the grappeling part.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 3:48 am
LELIE That's exactly what I meant surprised It takes some practice when it comes to just looking at a stance. Feeling while fighting is easier. And about your opponent that keeps moving... We use ryukas for that. An attack that keeps coming, really fast. Usually to the head. The person has no choice but to lift the arms to protect the head, which opens up the stomach area. Some people know that will happen, but the stomach usually hurts less. During the ryuka, the person has no idea what you'll have planned, and can't see it. So you can do practically anything. But there are other things like "sticky hands" that can keep you close to your opponent and feel when he/she is unbalanced, or where. And lets not forget the grappeling part. That sounds pretty interesting, but it seems you have to rely on your oppenent to do almost exactly as planned or else it won't work. what if they simply side step and throw a punch towards your face and go on the attack from there, or simply just lift there foot as your coming in to attack there head...to many what if questions...even for a martial art.
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:10 pm
Guh...
I dunno about the whole "guy vs girl" thing. On one hand, you have the girls who act like glass, or who are afraid of a bigger, stronger, faster guy and you can't exactly go full force on them, and you usually have to just go full speed but excercise control. On the other hand, you have the girls that can totally rock your face stressed , and you don't have to worry.
Example: This girl I met in a contact-style karate. She was Japanese and practiced seidokan karate. I came in from a mostly non-contact shotokan. In my first class, I had to spar with her. I had no experience with contact at that time, not to mention my mindframe was (at the time) "I can't hit a girl". redface
hahahaha!!! Yeah, that was all it took. I think she was thinking "alright, if you don't want to hit me, I'll just kick your a** domokun ". And she did. We practiced in a school gymnasium, and she beat the s**t out of my legs from one side of the gym to the other. xp After that loss, she became my favourate person to spar with. Everyone else in that class absolutely sucked, and I kept getting schooled in shotokan. After learning that this girl could take a hit and would give no quarter, I understood she was at a level where, in sparring, I could take my training to a whole new level.
I KNOW this is going to sound really bad, but sparring with her was like sex! blaugh No! it was even better! She knew what I liked, and where I was weak, and vice versa. I never got to know her personally, but in training, I've never had a better partner.
That was two years ago.I haven't seen her much since. It's because of her that I train like I do now. I want to see how much she has progressed. I doubt she even knows how much of an impact she's had in my training. I guess I sort of developed a crush on her because of her skill (that or I'm some kind of sicko masochist), and I guess that's one reason that when I was sparring with her, I tried to perform really well.
Grappling: yeah, uh. I haven't had to yet (fortunately). But I imagine I'd be really distracted.
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:49 pm
MrDrunkarate I KNOW this is going to sound really bad, but sparring with her was like sex! blaugh No! it was even better! She knew what I liked, and where I was weak, and vice versa. I never got to know her personally, but in training, I've never had a better partner. That has to be the greatest thing I ever heard! xd I'm so putting this in my siggy... xd xd xd xd
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:29 am
LOL, I knew it was going to sound bad! LOL! blaugh
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:40 pm
Hmm. I've been in a familiar situation once.
This girl I was sparring with at the central training.
She really brought out the best in me, and I had the most wonderful match so far. She was cute too. Even with men on. XD
As for good sparring being better than sex...
Booyah. XD
I can no longer face my master in sparring! XD
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:32 pm
MrDrunkarate Guh... I dunno about the whole "guy vs girl" thing. On one hand, you have the girls who act like glass, or who are afraid of a bigger, stronger, faster guy and you can't exactly go full force on them, and you usually have to just go full speed but excercise control. On the other hand, you have the girls that can totally rock your face stressed , and you don't have to worry. Example: This girl I met in a contact-style karate. She was Japanese and practiced seidokan karate. I came in from a mostly non-contact shotokan. In my first class, I had to spar with her. I had no experience with contact at that time, not to mention my mindframe was (at the time) "I can't hit a girl". redface hahahaha!!! Yeah, that was all it took. I think she was thinking "alright, if you don't want to hit me, I'll just kick your a** domokun ". And she did. We practiced in a school gymnasium, and she beat the s**t out of my legs from one side of the gym to the other. xp After that loss, she became my favourate person to spar with. Everyone else in that class absolutely sucked, and I kept getting schooled in shotokan. After learning that this girl could take a hit and would give no quarter, I understood she was at a level where, in sparring, I could take my training to a whole new level. I KNOW this is going to sound really bad, but sparring with her was like sex! blaugh No! it was even better! She knew what I liked, and where I was weak, and vice versa. I never got to know her personally, but in training, I've never had a better partner. That was two years ago.I haven't seen her much since. It's because of her that I train like I do now. I want to see how much she has progressed. I doubt she even knows how much of an impact she's had in my training. I guess I sort of developed a crush on her because of her skill (that or I'm some kind of sicko masochist), and I guess that's one reason that when I was sparring with her, I tried to perform really well. Hey I'm in Shotokan too smile
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:39 am
Let me ask it this way. If a woman does not face a man in a controlled environment, such as training, then how is she to get the confidence in her abilities to defend herself in a real situation?
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:40 pm
LivingTribunal Let me ask it this way. If a woman does not face a man in a controlled environment, such as training, then how is she to get the confidence in her abilities to defend herself in a real situation? When a woman is protecting herself from any harm, they will get dirty. I know I do too... If we don't want anything wrong that is when we know this man isn't human to do such a thing to you, so we simply treat them as if they aren't a human. Anything goes, except using weapons unless they are using them.
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:43 pm
Moonlight Penguin LivingTribunal Let me ask it this way. If a woman does not face a man in a controlled environment, such as training, then how is she to get the confidence in her abilities to defend herself in a real situation? When a woman is protecting herself from any harm, they will get dirty. I know I do too... If we don't want anything wrong that is when we know this man isn't human to do such a thing to you, so we simply treat them as if they aren't a human. Anything goes, except using weapons unless they are using them. Personally Violence is the last resort, any self defence work that I do, and any MA's I do purely help me gain the confidence too deal with a situation that may arise like that. I think fighting men is fine, yeah some guys intimidate you, make you feel scared, but some girls do to! You need to fight men too know that you can face them! Ma's helped a friend of mine leave a guy who was abusing her...that took courage -- ma's gave her that confidence to do it... practice is good but at the same time any real life situation Ive been in Ive forgotten all my training and gone into danger mode...yeah if it comes down to it I end up having to punch somebody I can do it proparly but its the last thing on my agenda-- mydad got threatened by a man on a beach the man had a knife... I stood between him and my Dad and negotiated out of it...words where stronger than any punch...as he walked away after scaring the living daylights outa me
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:16 pm
Threx I could do anything but grapple with a girl. Simply because I fear if she thinks "I can get a cheap dollar by screaming grope." I dont need that hastle in my life. But if she was a professional she'd understand. Girls are girls too. When I get into a situation like that, my mind wanders to such things as well... ninja mrgreen
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:55 pm
phi one zero I fully acknowledge that this is completely juvenile, and as an adult and a serious student of the martial arts, I should be above such things. But I'm not, and that's the problem. blaugh When doing any kind of stand-up drills or sparring, the gender of my partner is irrelevant. It wasn't always, but I was broken of my reluctance to hit girls way back in my TMA days by a woman who had no patience or tolerance for such things, and would mercilessly beat the crap out of me if she caught me holding back. So that's a non-issue these days. Grappling and groundfighting is another story altogether. I always try to avoid grappling with girls (which, of course, isn't always possible), because it's just so damn distracting. Especially when fighting from guard, or in any technique that involves a lot of legwork. And yes, I always keep it professional and academic, but I'm male, and I'm straight, and my mind goes places. I do stay focused, but it takes effort, which diverts mental energy away from actually learning. It wouldn't be so bad if martial arts girls weren't so hot, but I've never met one that wasn't. ninja heart Yeah, like I said. Juvenile. I admit it. the only things i hear from girls when fighting are stuff like i wanted to show that a girl can be stronger then a guy! but ocasionally someting like eeew he touched me in an imposible spot! that's so disgusting!
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:05 pm
Amylin I'm 5'3"... EVERYONE I spar is bigger than I am. My advantage... I am smaller. I use my opponents hieght against them. They are taller... meaning their legs are longer. Hince the closer you stay to the guy the more likely his kick will over-extend and the easier he is to read. yeah, and sometimes when an opponent kicks to high about like to ur waist, it makes him off balance when his foot is in the air and if u have good reflexes u instinctivly grab their leg and pull or twist or flip or throw or whtever and it works alot of the time! the best way is to lock their other leg with ur feet and get them in a painful hold!
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:49 pm
training with men is fun for me cause they can take more then women can sometime
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:26 am
Heheheh. I don't stop till I've either got a splitting headache, painful lungs or something definitely sprained.
That's the only two things that'll do me in.
Rawr.
Of course, if sensei asks me to keep going anyway, I don't stop at anything.
I don't think I really have a limit besides fainting.
I've never fainted before. I kinda wanna try it but I never seem to get there.
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