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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:14 pm
Meee! Do you know how many people in this guild alone have red-haired hotties?
My contest didn't really get as many entries as I had hoped. So I was a little disheartened by that.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:15 pm
I can only think of two other red-tressed females ... Meanwhile, I'm sure it is disheartening, but I wouldn't take that as a sign of your characters being uncool/unoriginal/unbelievable etc. Your competition was very specific, and this is Gaia - I don't know if those two things match if you're not giving away a squidillion items or millions in gold <- having said that, I cannot remember what you were giving out as prizes, so disregard my entire comment if it makes no sense because you were giving out a squidillion prizes and millions in gold (; WoefulInfinity Does anyone ever get the feeling that their OCs suck? either, like, they're not original enough, not believeable enough, or just not cool enough designed to make people like 'em? No (; But I love my characters despite their failings or what anyone else might say (so far nothing, but I'm sure there'll be detractors one day). Do you ever feel that way?
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 3:00 pm
XD *hugs Mek* Lol. If it makes you feel better, when someone mentioned red haired hotties, I think of J a d e d's Hack and your Mek. XD The only other that comes to mind is Sierra's girly.
Lol, but Audley - haha, yeah, I do. A lot. DX I have a bad habit comparing myself to other people.
Like, I always try to make my characters really believeable in personality. And thus, I try not to give them perfect bodies. Like, above-average. The way movies stars are when they're just actors and not models. (Seriously, lol, like Edward Norton isn't particulary sexy but man, he's such a character!) Then again, like, my characters are still undeniably too pretty and thus, not believeable enough for a RL type setting. Then lol, I think he's too much of a stereotype. That he's too emo or such and/or has been through too much childhood trauma.
And then, here on Gaia, I feel they're too plain. Like, Rivek has no trademark costume or anything like most popular anime chars - and these costumes tend to give people better association with chars. He doesn't cross-dress or do extremely, extremely flamboyantly stereotypically gay things either, either. XD And he's no punk, no loli, no catboy or someone who can shoot fireballs from his hands - his magic requires around ten or fifteen minutes worth of explanation. To be honest, the most popular kind og bishounen here is also the long-white-hair kind, or just long hair kind. (*coughanimeinflunce*cough). But, like, I feel he's too not-in-line with the popular stuff that people don't like drawing him.
In trying to make him believable, he doesn't appeal to the anime people who like the sexy and the fantastic. But by trying to make him magical, I can't make him believable enough to be respected in like, mature literature.
I mean, I love my chars, but... argh. DX I feel like I should be doing something ot make them more generally appealing because, right now, he's just one biiiig guilty, self-indulgent, pleaseure XD;.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:07 pm
I think of Mek, Hack (although he's a bit more orangey), Kia Ryou, Nausicaa, Zeph's Avie, Klody's Avie, Nora's Avie/OC, Anetra's character (Sha...something), Sethirius, Shox, and I thiink Poisey had a red haired man character but he doesn't show up around here anyway so I guess that doesn't matter.
And I think it was Kia (I'm not positive) that started commissioning her character with black feathered wings before I had officially made Mek's hair curly. So I got confused for a bit there when I saw the commissions on DA and whatnot *looses track of commissioned artists easily* I kept thinking they were for me but I just forgot about them.
And Tenica had a wavy black-haired model who was also a supernatural being. So I just kinda had to slap my forehead with that one (not that we stepped on eachother's toes about it or anything). It was just a kind of "D'oh!" moment when I found out.
But you are right, Audley! I tried not to get too upset by my contest (I really was happy with the entries I recieved). I understand that doing a little research on a historical subject is kind of boring. And my prizes equalled slightly less than a million.
I'm pretty ok with the rest of my character designs. It's just with Mek (human form), like Woe was saying, doesn't technically have an official outfit. You could count the one Jaded designed but that was never really supposed to be repeated so much XD
And I'm afraid artists like Sue-chan and Jaded one day are just going to be all "DAMNIT, I'm tired of drawing her!" Which, you know, is pretty understandable since I have over 30 Sue-chan pieces and nearly 20 Jaded ones.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:57 pm
Mekania Anetra's character (Sha...something) Shakaasha whee I actually have wayyyy too many redhead characters. Shak is the only one I really commission art of but there's also... - Kalahmae (more of an orangey natural red) my Aasimar bard - Edward my 17 year old pyromaniac goth necromancer with serious inadequacy issues (male) - Fawn, a figure from Lilith's history, a half drow assassin - Llael, of course, the flamboyant androgynous pirate/poet/duelist/etc (technically male) And those are only on NWN sweatdrop There's also... - Ryiinah Ivel, my BESM character - Fawn, seperate from the NWN one, this is my generic MMO character name - Myrrh, a druid character who never got enough playtime - Talaval, the gay sharessian fire genasi (M) - Sakryl, a shortly played elf rogue/ranger in a Scarred Lands campaign - Cyrrn, my CoV character ... and then there's all the art I commission of Kranis because he's hawt. Mekania But you are right, Audley! I tried not to get too upset by my contest (I really was happy with the entries I recieved). I understand that doing a little research on a historical subject is kind of boring. And my prizes equalled slightly less than a million. I liked your contest. My roommate was actually going to enter it as well (he was all squealing over manly Marc Antony) but wee ones spilled juice on his picture.
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:23 am
Woe: stop comparing yourself to other people! (; Popularity/recognition has never meant "fantastic character", and I dare say it never will. Distinctive appearance (a combination of appearance-related things, of course) does help keep characters in people's minds, but a big part of that is also exposure, too. In my case, starry-eyed what's-his-name only gets recognised because Loish or Celesse or whoever else drew him - it doesn't make him an interesting character; he just has name association recognition. My point - which I haven't been making, but I'll make it here (; - is that people who sacrifice character integrity for fame/recognition/etc. have no soul, that's all. All right, maybe that wasn't my point (; Still, staying true to your creation is worth ten million white-haired anime moppets (: Having said that, there is always room for change - and even if Rivek took on an appearance trait that happened to be popular, that doesn't make him a vacuous sell-out. He just grew, like characters frequently do (; Mekania But you are right, Audley! I tried not to get too upset by my contest (I really was happy with the entries I recieved). I understand that doing a little research on a historical subject is kind of boring. And my prizes equalled slightly less than a million. That's not a bad prize pool - maybe people just suck? (; Or some of them have unfortunate accidents with juice (: If I ever hold an art contest (and I hope to in the near-ish future, time obstacles permitting) it wouldn't be on Gaia (mostly because of my Gaia poverty) - I'd hold it on dA and offer something a bit more exciting than a subscription. Hm.
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:26 am
Lol. I am definetely starting to recognize your Caratids and star-eyed boy. Read a little on who the Caratids are, and I'm very interested in the concept. Yeah, I do admit, though, Audley, I find myself comparing my chars too much with others'. I don't think, though, that I would ever alter Rivek's appearance too much. He's got enough of a trademark look as it is XD (emo scar, lol... i'm not sure if it bugs me. I figure, that, that's going to be his one sell-out point XD; ). On the other hand, were you the one that commented on my LJ?? Also, saw the pics GunnerRomantic did for you - gods, they're AMAZING. *idolizes her*
Well, Mek, that doesn't seem too bad a prize pool. But personally, I don't have tht time to enter contests anymore, and if I do, they have to have, like, traditional media or b/w prizes that are greater than what I'd make for a nromal commission. The art contests forum is a lot smaller than R/C, and a lot of big-time artists tend to just hold one auction because it coincides better with their time schedule. DA contests, I feel, sometimes ahve a smaller turnout than Gaia ones because they're harder to advertise. o.O; Me, I'm also scared to enter them because there aren't, like, category prizes... and the competition on DA is MUCH stiffer.
On the other hand, I totally want a red-headed character now. DX ALl my guys and irls have either blonde or black.
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:39 am
WoefulInfinity Does anyone ever get the feeling that their OCs suck? either, like, they're not original enough, not believeable enough, or just not cool enough designed to make people like 'em? Me! Well, I mean, I love them because they're in the stories I've been writing (or am planning to), so they mean something to me. But they don't have a trademark outfit and many of them don't even have a trademark hairdo (I mean, cause how many people really wear their hair the exact same way, never changing it up even once?). Since they're mostly from more realistic settings (though there arefantasy components), I don't see their design as being as noticeable as others'. But you know what? Who cares! They're mine and I create, putting part of me in each and every one. I would like to find the time to do character sheets and whatnot just so I can have some sort of uniformity among them. As far as redheads, I have Tamryn, Russell, and Raye. And I think, Mia - she's my newest character so i'm still deciding for sure.
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:34 pm
WoefulInfinity Lol. I am definetely starting to recognize your Caratids and star-eyed boy. Read a little on who the Caratids are, and I'm very interested in the concept. What's best about them is they have a lot of misinformation- well, maybe "lack of information" is better than misinformation. I haven't been very forthcoming with much of their actual stories, so bits and pieces of it have appeared in other people's words and most of the speculation is wrong. That, however, is all right (: I'll clarify it all one day, I'm sure. Quote: Yeah, I do admit, though, Audley, I find myself comparing my chars too much with others'. I don't think, though, that I would ever alter Rivek's appearance too much. He's got enough of a trademark look as it is XD (emo scar, lol... i'm not sure if it bugs me. I figure, that, that's going to be his one sell-out point XD; ). I'm glad you wouldn't change him too much. I like his trademark looks, and I still haven't seen anyone else around with anything similar to his "emo scar" (; Quote: On the other hand, were you the one that commented on my LJ?? Also, saw the pics GunnerRomantic did for you - gods, they're AMAZING. *idolizes her* That was me, yes (; Ah, yes, I was quite thrilled with those - I thought I was at the end of a long list, but it was only a few days and they did turn out rather fab. I should probably post them here at some point ... well, maybe when work gives me my life back (: Quote: DA contests, I feel, sometimes ahve a smaller turnout than Gaia ones because they're harder to advertise. o.O; Me, I'm also scared to enter them because there aren't, like, category prizes... and the competition on DA is MUCH stiffer. Theoretically (about the much stiffer competition, I mean) - it depends on who enters (; Having said that, the getting-word-out part of the task doesn't daunt me (too much, anyway) - I've decided on what the grand prize is and discussions with my comrades have been conclusive in a it's-good-and-is-not-that-poxy-even-though-there's-always-someone-who-has-an-issue-with-prizes-no-matter-what-they-are sort of way. I've also decided there will be categories, too, as it's the only way to make the competition as fair as possible and not be a depressing spectacle for less confident/advanced/whatever artists, I think.
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:15 pm
Thank you, Anetra ^^ I'm glad you liked it! And I'm sorry your friend's llittle ones messed up his picture. I would have totally loved getting more Marc Antony pieces!
Audley- Yeah, my gaia cash flow isn't too great either. I wanted to add cash to my gaia contest but since that's against the rules (and I think people would be pretty reluctant to trust that they'd get the money) I just dealt with it and used my money to donate so I could give out trivia prizes and whatnot.
Advertising on dA isn't so bad if you commission "popular" artists who post your piece in their galleries, it increases traffic on your page and more people would see that you're having a contest. And you can always advertise the hell out of it on gaia as well, since most artists here have a dA account.
Woe- Oh, no I understood! I was happy to see you even stop buy and you helped bump for a little bit too. I knew you were busy. All of us highschool seniors are busy @_@ (I graduate in less than TWO WEEKSholycrap!)
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:39 am
Mekania Audley- Yeah, my gaia cash flow isn't too great either. I wanted to add cash to my gaia contest but since that's against the rules (and I think people would be pretty reluctant to trust that they'd get the money) I just dealt with it and used my money to donate so I could give out trivia prizes and whatnot. Advertising on dA isn't so bad if you commission "popular" artists who post your piece in their galleries, it increases traffic on your page and more people would see that you're having a contest. And you can always advertise the hell out of it on gaia as well, since most artists here have a dA account. Indeed, I'm hoping my reputation won't be too pathetic by the time I hold my contest and people will have faith that I'll award what I sayI will (that, and I'll provide photographic evidence, too - the prize situation is going to be a bit ... different, so hopefully the non-standardness of it all will be a point in favour of believability). Meanwhile, I do have some commissions from "popular" artists coming up ... but I think most of my advertising will come my trusted signature (assuming my commenting stamina holds). That, or I'll submit a news article here (http://news.deviantart.com/browse/contests/) and cross my fingers it gets accepted - since not all of the contests listed there seem to have very interesting prizes (and really, "interesting prizes" are what I'm putting all of my hopes on here), I think mine won't be too boring to make it up there (; Most of the contests there have to do with photographs or photomanipulation, but still, we live in hope (;
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:27 am
LE GASP! Michael Bennen: Excuse me, do you know who is in charge of this investigation into these addicts and the drug? Neikos: Ellathorinia. Lilith Aelorothi: Yes, Rupert here is. Neikos: ... Ellathorinia is my... pseudonym. Michael Bennen: Err...Rupert? Neikos: Rupert. Neikos: *tries mimicry, gets bored, and puts an arm around Lilith instead* Lilith Aelorothi: Yes, along with myself. Lilith Aelorothi: Argenta Ardens, servant to Selune, at your service. Neikos: [Whisper] ... niiice touch. Lilith Aelorothi: [Whisper] I find it always adds something nice. Michael Bennen: Right well...I was just wondering what kind of advances you've made intot his investigation, how much do you know? Lilith Aelorothi: Oh, we know plenty. Lilith Aelorothi: For one, the addicts seem to die in the upstairs of inns. Neikos: Except for when they don't, and do it in the gutters. Lilith Aelorothi: We suspect the product is woven into the bed sheets. Lilith Aelorothi: Or it could be airborn. Michael Bennen: Mmhmm, Neikos: Of course, the original theory holds if they're stealing the bedsheets to sleep in the gutters. Lilith Aelorothi: In any case, regardless of where you choose to sleep, you are not safe. Neikos: Not safe at all. Lilith Aelorothi: Not anywhere. Neikos: Not any time. Lilith Aelorothi: No, sir. Michael Bennen: HAs any one made any inqueries into the identities of the victims? Lilith Aelorothi: Yes. Neikos: Not any way... Lilith Aelorothi: Sometimes. Michael Bennen: Has tyhat turned up results? Neikos: They're all lowlifes, it's our solemn opinion that the messka is doing the city a favor. Michael Bennen: *that Michael Bennen: Criminal lowlifes? Neikos: So while while we're continuing to investigate we mostly just want to know who's in charge of it so we can throw them a party. Michael Bennen: Or just Bums. Neikos: Bums. Lilith Aelorothi: Sorcerous bums, to be certain. Neikos: Indubitably so. Lilith Aelorothi: The drug seems only to effect those with a talent for magic. Neikos: [Whisper] I can't remember what 'indubitably' means. Michael Bennen: Is that all you know? Neikos: *idly drums his fingers on Lilith's shoulder* Lilith Aelorothi: No, sir, we know much more than that. Neikos: That's just the tip of the iceberg, if that much. Lilith Aelorothi: For one, I know that you have a /terrible/ taste for fashion. Lilith Aelorothi: Every victim thus far has dressed poorly. Lilith Aelorothi: You should be concerned. Neikos: I know that Lilith's blood is red. Lilith Aelorothi: I know that Brandon here is wearing a mask. Michael Bennen: If your not going to take this seriously then I think we're done here. Michael Bennen: THanks for your time. Neikos: Nobody takes this more seriously than us, sir. Lilith Aelorothi: Nobody, sir. Michael Bennen: Then you should be more helpful.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:33 am
That was an amusing read at 5am this morning, and it's still really funny to me now.
Did you write all that or was it a random chat conversation?
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:45 am
It's like a session-log for a roleplay. I played Lilith, and Neikos and the other guy were played by other people. The people who play those characters.
I wrote the dialogue for the drawing, though 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:34 pm
That's what I meant by chat, sorry ^^ It's been awhile since I've RP'd. But yeah, it made me giggle smile
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