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 Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:02 am
I just think that it would be a nice change in pace. Everyone knows the basics of WWII (with a few exceptions), but few know the truth about ancient Mesopotamia...
It would primarily center around the three primary civilizations, Sumer, Assyria, and Babylonia.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:48 am
I know next to nothing about ancient Mesopotamia... Just a few facts like Babylon made the Hanging gardens, it got destroyed and had been one of the most power kingdoms back then...
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:49 pm
Funny thing about the hanging gardens is the Greeks made the only records of them no Babalonian writing ever even mentions them. Hammoribi's Code an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth was made by them.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:42 pm
All I know about Mesopotamia is that its also called the "Cradle of Civilization", because that's where the first civilizations started. Excellent climat, and the right kinds of foods. It's all stuck between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, just above a sea somewhere.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:30 pm
Its more then just around the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, Babalon was between the Tigris and Euphrates and the modern city thats over what was Babalon is Baghdad. I dont think it should be called the craddle of civilization because the Greeks were starting their rise about this time and the Egyptians were doing the same.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:36 pm
Its called the "Craddle of Civilaztion" because its where the first real nations arose from. During that time, the Greeks were more of a bunch of city states then a real nation. Babalon was the first nation in the modern meaning of the word.
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:03 pm
I know but I dont like the name because the way the name is presented is that all civilization started there. At that time the Greeks weren't a nation but they were a culture, a group bound by the same religion, similar laws, trade, the same language, the same style of fighting, similar values (although there were some extreams like Sparta and war), add in they were in cities and you have a civilization.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:13 am
Fertile Crescent. 'nuff said.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:20 pm
I do have to agree that that area was suprisingly (considering what it is now) fertile.
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:16 pm
Speaking of civilizations, has anyone seen the movie/tv show Guns, Germs, and Steel? What do you think of geologic luck? I think theres a very strong argument for it, especially since I can't think up any other explanation. (Aside from civilizations arising at totally random places and times, which just doesn't make sense.)
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:39 pm
No, I haven't seen it. Or heard about it. What is Geologic luck? (I can make an assumption about it based on the meaning of the two words... But I want to be sure.)
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:48 pm
I am in the same boat as Isarde but I dont think luck or randomness has anything to do with it. At heart humans are three things, social, explorers, and nomads. Groups will leave and never come back they find a place that will support them and they will settle reproduce and if the area can support a population a culture followed by a civilization appears. Humans have a need to move, why do you think city life is so fast paced and hetic while country life isnt? In the country you work your a** off all day and in the city you sit behind a desk so to compensate in a city people run from place to place.
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Sounds about right. At home, I am constantly fidgeting at my desk, I walk at forced march pace from one class to the next, but on vacation at my uncle's, in WVa, I wake up hyper, but all the hyper gets used up pushing the lawnmower, hacking at weeds with a machete, and pulling at a ratchet handle.
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:36 pm
ASSYRIA RULED!!!
(For quite a while)
I guess Mesopotamia is a bit far back. I mean, they didn't even have a proper history back then. In fact, I'd say that the first true history was not until Thucydidese's (probably spelled that wrong) "The History of the Peloponnesian War". Actually, I only say that because that was the first history based on mostly facts and data. But if you compare Herodotus's stuff to modern history books, there isn't much difference. History books nowadays (for the most part) are based on opinions and "myth", much like Herodotus's "The Histories". Just flip through your social studies book and laugh...
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:07 pm
Bigfoot after you do all that work are you content just to sit around and let the world pass you by for the rest of the day?
Rowdy yes Assyria ruled but they in my opinion were so uncontributing to history that they can be overlooked. They were large and incharge for such a short time and with a more combat based culture they didnt really advance the world. Also dont dis myths too much almost all of them are based in fact. Sadly you are right about most history books thats why I read many and keep the facts that the majority agree on as long as its feasible.
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