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 Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:23 am
[M]a.r.t.s Yuke of XV TheXFactor I'd like to clear a few things up. So bear with me as I find myself kinda hard to understand at times. Okay so here it goes... @GoldI know I was the one to say Speeders are not allowed to compete for Main Titles, for one very simple reason. Why have Speed as a development show, and have call ups if Speeders can automatically challenge for a Main Title? If it was allowed why don't we just have Speed as a third show, and just have trades amongst the three, instead of calling up rookies ready for the big time. Let me name drop these recognizable stars. Santino, Christian, Crash Holly, Gail Kim, Jerry Lynn Carlito, Big Show, Ted Dibiase Jr., Now what do they have in common? Why they won titles in their debut matches on television/PPV. Now not saying anything regarding title changes or what not after that. But them they were not in OVW when they won, they were on Main Roster and there to stay no matter what.. Don't you mean then <-- That'll be 2K, which you can deposit in the no one gives a ******** bank.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:25 am
Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Punkology Because the man is pure ******** win, and the s**t he's done in RP is amazing. That's why he's so impressive. So the sex was good then? Yeah, your mom loved it. I bet she did, she lived as she died a filthy whore. Hope you like ******** ashes because Marxx already admits to it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:25 am
Yuke of XV Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Punkology Because the man is pure ******** win, and the s**t he's done in RP is amazing. That's why he's so impressive. So the sex was good then? Yeah, your mom loved it. I bet she did, she lived as she died a filthy whore. Hope you like ******** ashes because Marxx already admits to it. Hmm... Way to kill the mood.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:28 am
Yuke of XV [M]a.r.t.s Yuke of XV TheXFactor I'd like to clear a few things up. So bear with me as I find myself kinda hard to understand at times. Okay so here it goes... @GoldI know I was the one to say Speeders are not allowed to compete for Main Titles, for one very simple reason. Why have Speed as a development show, and have call ups if Speeders can automatically challenge for a Main Title? If it was allowed why don't we just have Speed as a third show, and just have trades amongst the three, instead of calling up rookies ready for the big time. Let me name drop these recognizable stars. Santino, Christian, Crash Holly, Gail Kim, Jerry Lynn Carlito, Big Show, Ted Dibiase Jr., Now what do they have in common? Why they won titles in their debut matches on television/PPV. Now not saying anything regarding title changes or what not after that. But them, they were not in OVW when they won, they were on Main Roster and there to stay no matter what.. Don't you mean then <-- That'll be 2K, which you can deposit in the no one gives a ******** bank. Oh no no, I really meant them. Them replacing the people you just mentioned.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:32 am
[M]a.r.t.s Yuke of XV [M]a.r.t.s Yuke of XV TheXFactor I'd like to clear a few things up. So bear with me as I find myself kinda hard to understand at times. Okay so here it goes... @GoldI know I was the one to say Speeders are not allowed to compete for Main Titles, for one very simple reason. Why have Speed as a development show, and have call ups if Speeders can automatically challenge for a Main Title? If it was allowed why don't we just have Speed as a third show, and just have trades amongst the three, instead of calling up rookies ready for the big time. Let me name drop these recognizable stars. Santino, Christian, Crash Holly, Gail Kim, Jerry Lynn Carlito, Big Show, Ted Dibiase Jr., Now what do they have in common? Why they won titles in their debut matches on television/PPV. Now not saying anything regarding title changes or what not after that. But them, they were not in OVW when they won, they were on Main Roster and there to stay no matter what.. Don't you mean then <-- That'll be 2K, which you can deposit in the no one gives a ******** bank. Oh no no, I really meant them. Them replacing the people you just mentioned. Either way, forgetting to place a comma entitles to the 2K deposit.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:54 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am
Quote: I know I was the one to say Speeders are not allowed to compete for Main Titles, for one very simple reason. Why have Speed as a development show, and have call ups if Speeders can automatically challenge for a Main Title? If it was allowed why don't we just have Speed as a third show, and just have trades amongst the three, instead of calling up rookies ready for the big time. And why not have it as a third show? From what I've noticed and heard, speed doesn't seem to DO much of anything. There's this Star thing, but with all the NXT style things popping up is it needed? WWE had 3 brands after all if you remember? Technically it still does NXT I count as a 3rd brand for the fact that Main roster stars fight on it. As for Draven vs Throne, well that was not my apartment or doing. But from what I've read in EEW's Crew Forum, Draze is working on the situation. If I was giving news about that match I would of stopped it from being booked. But as other EEW Crew members have stated The Card is NOT set in stone. I'll work with Draze and see what we can do about that Match. Quote: Now as for the Yuke vs Atrocity situation. Yuke/Chrono has no right to just hand out title shots to EEW Debuter/Speeders. Since by rule, you'll be debuting in Speed. Now I'm not saying you belong on Speed, but it's a rule. NO NEW character can just simply Debut on ONS, EEW's biggest PPV and be given a title shot. It just doesn't make sense, and is not fair to other Speeders. Now like you said You, Chrono, and Atrocity agreed on a Triple Threat Match. Just cause the three of you agreed does not mean it's a guarantee. Let me give you an example. Let's say it's about one show from ONS. Now Me, Cart, and Jed. have all agreed to main event ONS for the WHC, with no build up, and no plausible reason, but since we agreed it'll happen anyways. The difference between your example and the given situation is that there IS some build up. A certain promo, yes it was horrendous, terrible but it was there none the less. You were apart of it, so you should know. Quote: Okay as for the Battle Royal. Please look at the positives here. Through you may think it's a ******** waiting to happen, please note that EEW's Crew will be reading that match with open minds. Looking for the people who are ACTIVE, and WILLING TO SELL, and HAVE basic ring knowledge. So we know who should be getting the push, and booked. I know Debuting in a battle Royal don't make sense but if a Battle Royal was the first match you win, think about how much better that makes your guy. Just a thought. As far as this goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:00 pm
Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Punkology Because the man is pure ******** win, and the s**t he's done in RP is amazing. That's why he's so impressive. So the sex was good then? Yeah, your mom loved it. I bet she did, she lived as she died a filthy whore. Hope you like ******** ashes because Marxx already admits to it. Hmm... Way to kill the mood. As if it was a pleasant mood topic to begin with! xd
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:01 pm
Cartwright Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Beta Flyer Yuke of XV Punkology Because the man is pure ******** win, and the s**t he's done in RP is amazing. That's why he's so impressive. So the sex was good then? Yeah, your mom loved it. I bet she did, she lived as she died a filthy whore. Hope you like ******** ashes because Marxx already admits to it. Hmm... Way to kill the mood. As if it was a pleasant mood topic to begin with! xd No one said it had to be pleasant.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:09 pm
Golden Ambition And why not have it as a third show? From what I've noticed and heard, speed doesn't seem to DO much of anything. There's this Star thing, but with all the NXT style things popping up is it needed? WWE had 3 brands after all if you remember? Technically it still does NXT I count as a 3rd brand for the fact that Main roster stars fight on it. Let me just drop a few names. Brody Robinson, Draze, Angel, Pimp, Damian Le, Evan Saninja.. You can't tell me Speed has done or doesn't do anything. Speed is what made those people basically. It's help each one of them in some way or another. Now as for those that have won a title in they're debut they all have perfectly good reasons. Big Show - Was former WCW Champion before debuting on WWE. As for his WCW Championship win, that was he's debut match, not his actual debut. He debuted with the Dungeon of Doom before that match and there was quite some build up to the match as Big Show Targeted Hulk Hogan. Carlito - In WWC He was undefeated, then he moved to OVW where he became one of they're premiere stars, thus already establishing himself. And Even before he debuted in WWE, he had weeks of build up for his debut, not one week. TDJ - Did not win a title in his debut, I don't know what made you think he did. Santino - He was a booming star in OVW, as Boris Alexiev. He was set to debut as Kurt's Protege but that was scrapped when Kurt jumped ship for TNA. So WWE made up for it and debuted him as Santino Marella and had him beat the less credible, and talented Umaga. No offense I liked Umaga but Santino is a much better wrestler all around. Christian - Please The Titles back in the WWF Attitude Era was so poorly used, especial the Light Heavyweight Title, it ws just like the European Title, it was just a Filler Title and winning it in a Debut is nothing of impressive. Crash Holly - Crash did not win a Title in his debut. Again I don't know what made you come to that conclusion. Gail Kim - December 7th, 2002 Gail Kim debuted in WWE, it wasn't until June 30th, 2003 that she won a title, so AGAIN I don't know where you get this idea. Jerry Lynn - He debuted in PWA and won a Light Heavyweight Championship big whoop. Has anyone really heard of PWA?
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:16 pm
TheXFactor Golden Ambition And why not have it as a third show? From what I've noticed and heard, speed doesn't seem to DO much of anything. There's this Star thing, but with all the NXT style things popping up is it needed? WWE had 3 brands after all if you remember? Technically it still does NXT I count as a 3rd brand for the fact that Main roster stars fight on it. Let me just drop a few names. Brody Robinson, Draze, Angel, Pimp, Damian Le, Evan Saninja, Brantley Summers.. You can't tell me Speed has done or doesn't do anything. Speed is what made those people basically. It's help each one of them in some way or another. Now as for those that have won a title in they're debut they all have perfectly good reasons. Big Show - Was former WCW Champion before debuting on WWE. As for his WCW Championship win, that was he's debut match, not his actual debut. He debuted with the Dungeon of Doom before that match and there was quite some build up to the match as Big Show Targeted Hulk Hogan. Carlito - In WWC He was undefeated, then he moved to OVW where he became one of they're premiere stars, thus already establishing himself. And Even before he debuted in WWE, he had weeks of build up for his debut, not one week. TDJ - Did not win a title in his debut, I don't know what made you think he did. Santino - He was a booming star in OVW, as Boris Alexiev. He was set to debut as Kurt's Protege but that was scrapped when Kurt jumped ship for TNA. So WWE made up for it and debuted him as Santino Marella and had him beat the less credible, and talented Umaga. No offense I liked Umaga but Santino is a much better wrestler all around. Christian - Please The Titles back in the WWF Attitude Era was so poorly used, especial the Light Heavyweight Title, it ws just like the European Title, it was just a Filler Title and winning it in a Debut is nothing of impressive. Crash Holly - Crash did not win a Title in his debut. Again I don't know what made you come to that conclusion. Gail Kim - December 7th, 2002 Gail Kim debuted in WWE, it wasn't until June 30th, 2003 that she won a title, so AGAIN I don't know where you get this idea. Jerry Lynn - He debuted in PWA and won a Light Heavyweight Championship big whoop. Has anyone really heard of PWA?
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:17 pm
Sorry Beta I forgot. But yes Brantley Summers was also a nice addition to Speed.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:22 pm
TheXFactor Golden Ambition And why not have it as a third show? From what I've noticed and heard, speed doesn't seem to DO much of anything. There's this Star thing, but with all the NXT style things popping up is it needed? WWE had 3 brands after all if you remember? Technically it still does NXT I count as a 3rd brand for the fact that Main roster stars fight on it. Let me just drop a few names. Brody Robinson, Draze, Angel, Pimp, Damian Le, Evan Saninja.. You can't tell me Speed has done or doesn't do anything. Speed is what made those people basically. It's help each one of them in some way or another. Now as for those that have won a title in they're debut they all have perfectly good reasons. Big Show - Was former WCW Champion before debuting on WWE. As for his WCW Championship win, that was he's debut match, not his actual debut. He debuted with the Dungeon of Doom before that match and there was quite some build up to the match as Big Show Targeted Hulk Hogan. Carlito - In WWC He was undefeated, then he moved to OVW where he became one of they're premiere stars, thus already establishing himself. And Even before he debuted in WWE, he had weeks of build up for his debut, not one week. TDJ - Did not win a title in his debut, I don't know what made you think he did. Santino - He was a booming star in OVW, as Boris Alexiev. He was set to debut as Kurt's Protege but that was scrapped when Kurt jumped ship for TNA. So WWE made up for it and debuted him as Santino Marella and had him beat the less credible, and talented Umaga. No offense I liked Umaga but Santino is a much better wrestler all around. Christian - Please The Titles back in the WWF Attitude Era was so poorly used, especial the Light Heavyweight Title, it ws just like the European Title, it was just a Filler Title and winning it in a Debut is nothing of impressive. Crash Holly - Crash did not win a Title in his debut. Again I don't know what made you come to that conclusion. Gail Kim - December 7th, 2002 Gail Kim debuted in WWE, it wasn't until June 30th, 2003 that she won a title, so AGAIN I don't know where you get this idea. Jerry Lynn - He debuted in PWA and won a Light Heavyweight Championship big whoop. Has anyone really heard of PWA? Dibiase Jr. won the Tag titles upon his debut, and I've heard of PWA. Crash won the Hardcore title in his debut match I believe that what I is referring to is their FIRST televised debut match. Gail Kim may have been around but she was in HOUSE shows. Same with all of the others, yes they were around but in their DEBUT match on television in those particular federations where they won the title from, they won a title yes? Also Angel was on Burn then got sent to Drown and then Speed. I know we sent him to Speed remember? Brody was already big, the fact that he remained on Speed for so long is a ******** joke to his character. Draze was established BEFORE EEW was even around, he was on speed to get rid of ring rust. Same with Damian Le, I know because I was Damian's first big rival. Look at his history. I don't even see Saninja around, and Pimp well he's only a victim of his own inactiveness
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:27 pm
TheXFactor Sorry Beta I forgot. But yes Brantley Summers was also a nice addition to Speed. Uhh... Falco, DJ, Bounty Hunter, Duane Wages, Sean Rowe, Matt Shanahan, Mavlik Young, Chris Chaos, even myself started on Speed... The last 3 didn't stay long there, but still.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:31 pm
[M]a.r.t.s TheXFactor Sorry Beta I forgot. But yes Brantley Summers was also a nice addition to Speed. Uhh... Falco, DJ, Bounty Hunter, Duane Wages, Sean Rowe, Matt Shanahan, Mavlik Young, Chris Chaos, even myself started on Speed... The last 3 didn't stay long there, but still. Speed has made amazing stars...
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