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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:20 pm

Marty Nozz

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i was/ am working on Henian niedan got any tips 4 me question question i cant spell crying

Holy crap! I'm still horrible at Nidan. I've been working it for almost 2 years, and I hate it. It is my absolute least favorite kata that I've ever done. The main point that I teach when I show that kata, and the main point that I had so many problems with, are make sure you differentiate (sp?) between your stances. Make sure the back stance looks like a back stance, and the front looks like front. And the knife hand strikes/sword hand strikes, it doesn't matter which one you use, just keep it consistant, and keep it strong. I had the problem of every single technique I did in the kata was strong and fast, but my knife hands/sword hand strikes didn't match in the strength and speed, they were much weaker.

Hope that helped a bit. smile

Ni dan is usually the first kata where the students go, "alright, this just got hard". Definately work the knife hand strikes. A lot of student have difficulty getting power out of them. Also back stances, walk the floor with them. Neither of these techniques are going to go away anytime soon, trust me, so put the time in to really perfect them now. When Itosu developed the kata he did this one to really work the open hand tenchniques so the students would be prepared to use them later.

Well I still don't like it. LoL. I figured by now I could just block out that whole kata. But nOo we do it all the time. gonk

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:22 pm

Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:38 am

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

Is that where you have to jump up into the air then land in X-stance (one foot tucked behind the other) with an X block? Designed for landing on someboby's leg? A friend of mine in shotokan showed it to me, it was a purple belt kata I think. Anywho there's a very similar technique in a TKD pattern at about the same level and a way of transitioning without putting huge stress on the knees is to take an extended step, i.e. just step into it. Is that it? Or have I got completely the wrong end of the stick?

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:15 pm

DarklingGlory

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

Is that where you have to jump up into the air then land in X-stance (one foot tucked behind the other) with an X block? Designed for landing on someboby's leg? A friend of mine in shotokan showed it to me, it was a purple belt kata I think. Anywho there's a very similar technique in a TKD pattern at about the same level and a way of transitioning without putting huge stress on the knees is to take an extended step, i.e. just step into it. Is that it? Or have I got completely the wrong end of the stick?

Nope. The X block jump is the one in godan. It's a handful of katas before the ones I was working.

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:02 pm

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

That's one of my katas and my dad's instructor has a bad ankle so here's how you get around it. The kusanku dai jump is the one where you jump, turn 360 degrees and land in a crouch.

Do the forearm strike and then turn that direction taking two steps. You spin without leaving the floor. Step one starts your spin and serves as your retreat. The second step is when you want to slide yourself into the crouching position.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:57 am

Marty Nozz

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

That's one of my katas and my dad's instructor has a bad ankle so here's how you get around it. The kusanku dai jump is the one where you jump, turn 360 degrees and land in a crouch.

Do the forearm strike and then turn that direction taking two steps. You spin without leaving the floor. Step one starts your spin and serves as your retreat. The second step is when you want to slide yourself into the crouching position.

Wow. Delayed response on my part. sweatdrop

Thankies! I'll have to try that once I'm allowed to go back to karate.

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:45 am

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Marty Nozz

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

That's one of my katas and my dad's instructor has a bad ankle so here's how you get around it. The kusanku dai jump is the one where you jump, turn 360 degrees and land in a crouch.

Do the forearm strike and then turn that direction taking two steps. You spin without leaving the floor. Step one starts your spin and serves as your retreat. The second step is when you want to slide yourself into the crouching position.

Wow. Delayed response on my part. sweatdrop

Thankies! I'll have to try that once I'm allowed to go back to karate.

My pleasure. Actually the version of Kusanku Dai I do doesn't have that jump, but I do a different version, Shihokosukun, for tournaments sometimes that has the jump.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:29 am

Marty Nozz

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Marty Nozz

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Does anyone here practice the katas Empi or Kwanku Dai? And if so, have you seen them done with a substitution move in for the jump? Or a way that they're done with out the jump? Because I want to do one of those two katas for nationals in August. But with my knee I don't know when I'm going to be allowed to jump again, because for a long while I have specific orders not to, and even if I'm allowed to jump by then, I'm not going to have practiced the kata long enough.

That's one of my katas and my dad's instructor has a bad ankle so here's how you get around it. The kusanku dai jump is the one where you jump, turn 360 degrees and land in a crouch.

Do the forearm strike and then turn that direction taking two steps. You spin without leaving the floor. Step one starts your spin and serves as your retreat. The second step is when you want to slide yourself into the crouching position.

Wow. Delayed response on my part. sweatdrop

Thankies! I'll have to try that once I'm allowed to go back to karate.

My pleasure. Actually the version of Kusanku Dai I do doesn't have that jump, but I do a different version, Shihokosukun, for tournaments sometimes that has the jump.

There's a version that doesn't have a jump? eek Different style I'm assuming. I've only ever seen it done with the jump in it.

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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:12 am

Well, I still practice my Jo Kata 31...

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:16 pm

i just tested with Ni-ju-shi Chinte and teki-nedan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:32 pm

Well so far I know 11 katas plus one bo kata.

The highest one I know at the moment is Nahanchin Sandan (don't think that's spelt right).

But although I really like that kata, I hate it. Ever since I've learnt it, I keep stuffing up Nahanchin Shodan because in one section it is almost the same sequence of moves and I when I get there, I start doing Sandan.

I did it 3 times in my grading too!! I was so embarressed then, but I still passed smile

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:41 pm

Marty Nozz

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i was/ am working on Henian niedan got any tips 4 me question question i cant spell crying

Holy crap! I'm still horrible at Nidan. I've been working it for almost 2 years, and I hate it. It is my absolute least favorite kata that I've ever done. The main point that I teach when I show that kata, and the main point that I had so many problems with, are make sure you differentiate (sp?) between your stances. Make sure the back stance looks like a back stance, and the front looks like front. And the knife hand strikes/sword hand strikes, it doesn't matter which one you use, just keep it consistant, and keep it strong. I had the problem of every single technique I did in the kata was strong and fast, but my knife hands/sword hand strikes didn't match in the strength and speed, they were much weaker.

Hope that helped a bit. smile

Ni dan is usually the first kata where the students go, "alright, this just got hard". Definately work the knife hand strikes. A lot of student have difficulty getting power out of them. Also back stances, walk the floor with them. Neither of these techniques are going to go away anytime soon, trust me, so put the time in to really perfect them now. When Itosu developed the kata he did this one to really work the open hand tenchniques so the students would be prepared to use them later.

NIdan.... I like the first movements, the blocks, and then the kick/back fist but back stance/ shuto has got to be my worst stance! It has gotten better though, thanks to Tsuruoka Sensei. I would work through it slowly and as Pengwyn said make sure your stances are defined.