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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:29 am
sheshe507 Artto I was wondering ... are you typing using your mobile phone? Because if you're using a keyboard, you can type out the words, you know. It's annoying and makes you look stupid, especially in a supposed debate. This may be OK in facebook chat, but on a forum, type your god damned words out. y shuld i waste mt precious time riting out words? and 4 ppl who dont even deserve to even b reading wat i hav 2 say. and if u disagre w/ evrythin i hav 2 say y r u even reading ,y posts dumbass? and if u hav nuthin reasonable 2 say keep ur goddamn mouth shut. whee 
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:39 am
Tiina Brown Artto sheshe507 thts all u no how 2 do huh? put up pics of ponies. obvie! wat else can u do? u NO im right! wink shs n 2b wat tft hes u nd brng to ladft! HAHAHAHAHA! Um, sorry, just had to ..... but now we are ALL guilty of derailing this thread. However, as gruesome as sheshe's opinions are, no matter whether she actually has those opinions or not, there is a point here: Islam used to be discussing what Mohammad said, it used to even take the situation of the time, of the progress in other parts of the world, into accountance. Then, The SovietUnion entered it with troops as a part of "the cold war". USA Supported the Talibans then, as rebels against the Soviet Army. The USA also was buying oil from Saudi-Arabia, that was ruled, and still is, by the kind of "Islamism" that say they go by the quran, and is unforgiviving against everyting else than their own interpretations. Unless i'm mistaken, they are even unforgiving against other muslims, that don't follow "their" way. The problem is, the Islamic countries has been under severe preassure, so too many have not been able to discuss, and instead succumbed to the "Hard Way". This is my analysis, if i am incorrect about something, then pleae do correct me. (I'm quite certain sheshe will try to correct me, but not in the way that is valid for this analysis ... well i might be wrong ... ) my opinions r gruesome? look @ yours. talk bout gruesome! anyway. islam is not following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) word it is following Allah's smart 1. following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) is sunnah and not a neccesity. we do it if we want. its good 2 do it. but it is not absolutely crucial. and no we r not unforgiving against other muslims. if thy doont follow Islam correctly thn obvie thy r not TRUE MUSLIMS so not forgiving thm wuldnt be goin against r own kind. r religion is full of forgiveness and love and we do forgive even nonmuslims. but their is also a point where maybe wat was done was 2 gruesome 2 forgivr. u cant forgive evrything ppl do. but we R only human. and it is human nature 2 make mistakes. Allah is forgiving but not EVRYTHING can be forgiven. and their r also certain ppl who dont even deserve 2 b forgiven yet Allah forgives thm because he is a merciful and forgiving god. and wat may i ask IS the "hard way"?
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:40 am
rmcdra sheshe507 Artto I was wondering ... are you typing using your mobile phone? Because if you're using a keyboard, you can type out the words, you know. It's annoying and makes you look stupid, especially in a supposed debate. This may be OK in facebook chat, but on a forum, type your god damned words out. y shuld i waste mt precious time riting out words? and 4 ppl who dont even deserve to even b reading wat i hav 2 say. and if u disagre w/ evrythin i hav 2 say y r u even reading ,y posts dumbass? and if u hav nuthin reasonable 2 say keep ur goddamn mouth shut. whee lol i NO thts wat u do evrynite! @ least u admit it! lmfao.... wink
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:41 am
rmcdra sheshe507 thts all u no how 2 do huh? put up pics of ponies. obvie! wat else can u do? u NO im right! I can share with you an organization of Muslims who disagree with you on this topic. Al-Fatiha Foundation. I am not knowledgable enough about Islam to argue with Islamic theology. Edit: Corrected wording for clarification on wat topic EXACTLY?
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:44 am
Eltanin Sadachbia Yeah... I feel better too... LOL... but I was waiting to see how long the 2 of you would keep it up... Sheshe's opinion of you pretty much echoed everyone's opinion of her... Kinda poetic really. LOL heart hahahaha ur cute! evry1? hardly!
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:41 am
More ponies please... stare
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:55 am
sheshe507 and 4 ppl who dont even deserve to even b reading wat i hav 2 say. No one deserves the horror of having to decipher your horrible posts.
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:31 am
sheshe507 my opinions r gruesome? look @ yours. talk bout gruesome! anyway. islam is not following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) word it is following Allah's smart 1. following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) is sunnah and not a neccesity. we do it if we want. its good 2 do it. but it is not absolutely crucial. and no we r not unforgiving against other muslims. if thy doont follow Islam correctly thn obvie thy r not TRUE MUSLIMS so not forgiving thm wuldnt be goin against r own kind. r religion is full of forgiveness and love and we do forgive even nonmuslims. but their is also a point where maybe wat was done was 2 gruesome 2 forgivr. u cant forgive evrything ppl do. but we R only human. and it is human nature 2 make mistakes. Allah is forgiving but not EVRYTHING can be forgiven. and their r also certain ppl who dont even deserve 2 b forgiven yet Allah forgives thm because he is a merciful and forgiving god. and wat may i ask IS the "hard way"? Your opinions are gruesome ... or at least the ones you say you have. My opinions are built on information, on several views, including yours but you don't see yours in mine, because there are more than a thousand other opinions and views than yours. You say God is forgiving, but cannot forgive everything. And i wonder why God would condemn something that God self created? You say you follow the words of God, but those words were first spoken and/or witten by Muhammad, and since then, those wotds has been interpreted by others, including re-written, and then yet again interpreted by others. You do not follow the words of God, you do not follow the words of Allah, you follow the words of the quran, nothing else. You just think, or even belive, that that is the words of Allah. But, you will probably not belive me, you don't think anyone in this thread speaks the truth except you, do you? As you perhaps notice, i don't care much if you are genuine or a net-troll, i still try to reason with you. I may, or may not write more in this thread, as far as i see it, i have said what i was to say, and i may not need to say more.
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:07 am
Truthfully, the only reason I am still here is for the sake of entertainment... I feel bad for Julri, as her thread is no-where near what she intended it to be about... It has definitely went off topic.
I find it amusing that Sheshe says we don't deserve to read her posts... yet she tries to make points for us to agree or disagree with, but how can we even do that if we can't understand what she is wanting to say.
I also find it amusing that she thinks that there are people who have already been participating in this thread who agree with her views, and who are not disgusted with her...
I find it amusing that a 15 year old is arguing with people twice her age and calling them immature, when she has been a disrespectful little brat to EVERYONE here.
If my children defended and portrayed me in the way that she has defended and portrayed her god, I would be dishonored, disappointed, and angry... as I would NEVER want my kids to be disrespectful and hateful to others for my sake..
Good job sheshe... If I had no other examples of good Muslims to go by, and I went by your example alone, I would despise your god....
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:27 pm
sheshe507 rmcdra sheshe507 thts all u no how 2 do huh? put up pics of ponies. obvie! wat else can u do? u NO im right! I can share with you an organization of Muslims who disagree with you on this topic. Al-Fatiha Foundation. I am not knowledgable enough about Islam to argue with Islamic theology. Edit: Corrected wording for clarification on wat topic EXACTLY? About being gay being against Islam. This Muslim group disagrees with you. Al-Faitha Foundation
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:34 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia More ponies please... stare 
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:24 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia Truthfully, the only reason I am still here is for the sake of entertainment... I feel bad for Julri, as her thread is no-where near what she intended it to be about... It has definitely went off topic. I find it amusing that Sheshe says we don't deserve to read her posts... yet she tries to make points for us to agree or disagree with, but how can we even do that if we can't understand what she is wanting to say. I also find it amusing that she thinks that there are people who have already been participating in this thread who agree with her views, and who are not disgusted with her... I find it amusing that a 15 year old is arguing with people twice her age and calling them immature, when she has been a disrespectful little brat to EVERYONE here. If my children defended and portrayed me in the way that she has defended and portrayed her god, I would be dishonored, disappointed, and angry... as I would NEVER want my kids to be disrespectful and hateful to others for my sake.. Good job sheshe... If I had no other examples of good Muslims to go by, and I went by your example alone, I would despise your god.... Her god seems like a Demiurge at his finest XD 
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:31 am
Artto sheshe507 and 4 ppl who dont even deserve to even b reading wat i hav 2 say. No one deserves the horror of having to decipher your horrible posts. my posts hav more importance than ur hole existence.....
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:55 am
Tiina Brown sheshe507 my opinions r gruesome? look @ yours. talk bout gruesome! anyway. islam is not following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) word it is following Allah's smart 1. following Muhammad's (p.b.h.) is sunnah and not a neccesity. we do it if we want. its good 2 do it. but it is not absolutely crucial. and no we r not unforgiving against other muslims. if thy doont follow Islam correctly thn obvie thy r not TRUE MUSLIMS so not forgiving thm wuldnt be goin against r own kind. r religion is full of forgiveness and love and we do forgive even nonmuslims. but their is also a point where maybe wat was done was 2 gruesome 2 forgivr. u cant forgive evrything ppl do. but we R only human. and it is human nature 2 make mistakes. Allah is forgiving but not EVRYTHING can be forgiven. and their r also certain ppl who dont even deserve 2 b forgiven yet Allah forgives thm because he is a merciful and forgiving god. and wat may i ask IS the "hard way"? Your opinions are gruesome ... or at least the ones you say you have. My opinions are built on information, on several views, including yours but you don't see yours in mine, because there are more than a thousand other opinions and views than yours. You say God is forgiving, but cannot forgive everything. And i wonder why God would condemn something that God self created? You say you follow the words of God, but those words were first spoken and/or witten by Muhammad, and since then, those wotds has been interpreted by others, including re-written, and then yet again interpreted by others. You do not follow the words of God, you do not follow the words of Allah, you follow the words of the quran, nothing else. You just think, or even belive, that that is the words of Allah. But, you will probably not belive me, you don't think anyone in this thread speaks the truth except you, do you? As you perhaps notice, i don't care much if you are genuine or a net-troll, i still try to reason with you. I may, or may not write more in this thread, as far as i see it, i have said what i was to say, and i may not need to say more. of crs Allah can condemn wat he created. their is jst soo much evil in this world. so many r misguided but many find their way bak 2 Islam and revert 2 the ONE and ONLY 100% correct religion. no the Quran was not written by Muhammad (p.b.h.). he merely preached wat the Quran already stated and wat god taught him. the Quran is the words of Allah not the prophet. and in a way thy HAV been interpreted bu othrs. but if u learn the language properly u wuld understand evry word in the holy Quran. u dont hav 2 go by the interpretations of othrs. and the Quran has nvr ben altered or changed in any way. the jewish tried to taint r holy book but failed becuz the muslims noticed and stopped it immediately. r book now is the same 1 tht Allah sent down w/ r prophet Gabriel thousands of yrs ago. we didnt change it. like cathlics did w/ the Bible. the old testament is actuallyt very similar 2 the Quran. thts the 1 cathics shuld be following. but no the priests re wrote it in their own words and altered it. thy kept wat thy wanted and took out the stuff thy disagreed w/ or didnt like. and tht alteration is wat we no 2day as the new testament. god didnt send down 1 book thn change his mind and send anothr. it doesnt make sense 2 u and u no it. u ppl r jst afraid 2 question it. u dont even wanna get in2 it cuz u no wat u will find doesnt make sense so u dont even bothr u jst folloiw the wrong forcing urself 2 think its right. and wen a person does tht 4 so long thy begin 2 believe it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:16 am
Eltanin Sadachbia Truthfully, the only reason I am still here is for the sake of entertainment... I feel bad for Julri, as her thread is no-where near what she intended it to be about... It has definitely went off topic. I find it amusing that Sheshe says we don't deserve to read her posts... yet she tries to make points for us to agree or disagree with, but how can we even do that if we can't understand what she is wanting to say. I also find it amusing that she thinks that there are people who have already been participating in this thread who agree with her views, and who are not disgusted with her... I find it amusing that a 15 year old is arguing with people twice her age and calling them immature, when she has been a disrespectful little brat to EVERYONE here. If my children defended and portrayed me in the way that she has defended and portrayed her god, I would be dishonored, disappointed, and angry... as I would NEVER want my kids to be disrespectful and hateful to others for my sake.. Good job sheshe... If I had no other examples of good Muslims to go by, and I went by your example alone, I would despise your god.... i dont "try to make points" 4 u 2 agree or disagree w/. im just tellin u wats right. wether u choose 2 listen or not im just doing my duty im not gonna try and force u 2 listen u R the 1s who read my posts so obvie u care wat i have 2 say.... and talk about immature...."disrespectful little brat" huh. it doesn't matter if ur twice my age. age doesnt make u right it might make u more experieced but im more knowledgeable in this subject thn u r obviously cuz u dont no wat 2 c 2 my inquiries. and y shuld i disresect u if u dont disrespect me? im stubborn. by saying tht im not respecting my own religion cuz in my religion we r supposed 2 respect r elders. but @ least i hav the nrve 2 admit im wrong unlike u guys and R double my age.... as if any1 CARES about u or ur children. and r u tryin 2 say u r a god 2 ur children? cuz im obvie NOT talking bout MY mother wen i speak of Allah. and u can despise wat u like and think wat u want of muslims. im not the 1 who is gunna judge u on the day of judgement.....
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