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Semiremis
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:25 pm


rmcdra
@Semiremis
uh you really seem to be missing the point of the analogy.
Christianity:Catholic::Neo-Pagan:Wicca.


No I get that, I'm just saying it's a bad analogy and that:

Christianity:Mormonism: :Neo-Pagan:Wicca would be more fitting unless you think that Wicca is what other neo-pagan traditions stem from.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:19 pm


Semiremis
rmcdra
@Semiremis
uh you really seem to be missing the point of the analogy.
Christianity:Catholic::Neo-Pagan:Wicca.


No I get that, I'm just saying it's a bad analogy and that:

Christianity:Mormonism: :Neo-Pagan:Wicca would be more fitting unless you think that Wicca is what other neo-pagan traditions stem from.
Well if Mormons have a priesthood and ritual for initiation into a Mormon priesthood then yeah go for it. But as far as I'm aware there's no priesthood within the Mormon sect. Also many of the books out there on Neo-pagan religions will call themselves "Wicca" to make sales.

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Semiremis
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:46 pm


rmcdra
Semiremis
rmcdra
@Semiremis
uh you really seem to be missing the point of the analogy.
Christianity:Catholic::Neo-Pagan:Wicca.


No I get that, I'm just saying it's a bad analogy and that:

Christianity:Mormonism: :Neo-Pagan:Wicca would be more fitting unless you think that Wicca is what other neo-pagan traditions stem from.
Well if Mormons have a priesthood and ritual for initiation into a Mormon priesthood then yeah go for it. But as far as I'm aware there's no priesthood within the Mormon sect. Also many of the books out there on Neo-pagan religions will call themselves "Wicca" to make sales.


It's structure is Hierarchical, quick blurb from wiki:

The LDS Church is organized in a hierarchical priesthood structure administered by men. Mormons believe that Jesus leads the church through revelation and has chosen a single man, called "the Prophet" or President of the Church, as his spokesman on the earth. The current president is Thomas S. Monson. He and two counselors (who usually are ordained apostles) form the First Presidency, the presiding body of the church; twelve other apostles form the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.[70] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#Church_organization_and_structure


Many of those other books describe Wicca. At least in the same way as a religious book on the Baptist Church for example describes Christianity. Religious paths will and do evolve, or devolve depending on which term works best for you.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:58 pm


Semiremis
xLady Tsukiyox
Semiremis
xLady Tsukiyox
Semiremis
rmcdra
It would be more accurate to relate Wicca with Catholic priesthood.


ugh. Don't do that gonk
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Why not? Wicca itself is a priesthood. When Wiccans are initated they are declared Prests/Priestesses. Both sides have to work hard, and study study study in order to become Priests, correct? Catholics have their initations of sorts to become priests as do Wiccan priests. So the comparison is more accurate than a Protestant..
I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan



Wicca would be more comparable to the Mormon Church in Christianity. Something that's already bastardizing something else, a new group claiming to be something greater and to come from something more then what it is. Wicca in itself is dishonest in it's own organization. Best start there with correction before moving on to its offshoots and they are offshoots.
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Um actually it's not like the Mormon Church. To be a Catholic priest you do have certain things to do before you can be declared a priest, no?

Wicca is not a congregation but a clergy first and for most. When you are initated you are declared Priest/Priestess and a Witch. How is that dishonest? How is claiming to be a Priest after working your arse being dishonest?

I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan


How much do you know about Mormonism? They're very structured and they're a new religion although they have over 50 years on Wicca. So if you want to compare Wicca to Christianity they're a much better bet and they also have that element of secrecy.
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Hun. I know more about being Catholic than you do. biggrin Wicca and Catholicism are the same in how they do things. If you don't see that then you're a very very poor misguided Catholic.
I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan

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Semiremis
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:56 pm


xLady Tsukiyox
Semiremis
xLady Tsukiyox
Semiremis
xLady Tsukiyox
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Why not? Wicca itself is a priesthood. When Wiccans are initated they are declared Prests/Priestesses. Both sides have to work hard, and study study study in order to become Priests, correct? Catholics have their initations of sorts to become priests as do Wiccan priests. So the comparison is more accurate than a Protestant..
I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan



Wicca would be more comparable to the Mormon Church in Christianity. Something that's already bastardizing something else, a new group claiming to be something greater and to come from something more then what it is. Wicca in itself is dishonest in it's own organization. Best start there with correction before moving on to its offshoots and they are offshoots.
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Um actually it's not like the Mormon Church. To be a Catholic priest you do have certain things to do before you can be declared a priest, no?

Wicca is not a congregation but a clergy first and for most. When you are initated you are declared Priest/Priestess and a Witch. How is that dishonest? How is claiming to be a Priest after working your arse being dishonest?

I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan


How much do you know about Mormonism? They're very structured and they're a new religion although they have over 50 years on Wicca. So if you want to compare Wicca to Christianity they're a much better bet and they also have that element of secrecy.
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou?
Hun. I know more about being Catholic than you do. biggrin Wicca and Catholicism are the same in how they do things. If you don't see that then you're a very very poor misguided Catholic.
I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan


Don't call me hun.

And no you obviously do not know more about being Catholic, thems fightin' words and ones you cannot back up. In fact I think I have yet to see you support any of the statements you've made in regards to the Church with the Catechism or the Lumen Gentium.
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