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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:20 pm
Waki3000 Fredrick Baron Waki3000 whateverisright48 monkey_monkey_me I'm a christian, but I despise those who try to force Christianity on others. I know, right? It's their choice. You can't make anyone belief anything that they don't want to. People who try to only end up making them dislike all Christians. It's irritating. perfect example... their not christian though... Al-Queada tried to force their realigion on us... we didnt accept... they attacked us... we retaliated and aer giving them the hell that they deserve before we kill them and send them to hell Its God's job to forgive Bin Ladin, Its our job to set up the meeting ~USMC Amen bro... USMC will make Bin Laden sing. WellAmerica will... Doesnt mean that the USMC will be the ones to find him but it is most likely that they will... Well we have our branches over their hunting him down, so whoever finds him will make him sing I guess. whee
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:33 pm
Harlequin_Dust Sheagorath_The_MadGod other religions are NOT obsticles, they are actually other beliefs that we can learn from and enjoy sense a multitude of rleigions is better then just one how can you accpet everyones beliefs if you call there belifes evil and you dont even accpet the existance of there dietys and etc ? aithiests attack christianity becuase they now realize all the faults it has, im not saying that other religions dont have faults but athiesim does NOT have any faults sense they believe in only science and the world around them. We dont care about hell, and if we dont believe in it, there is no possible way for us to go there sense our own divinitys will do there own thing in our after lives if that religion has an afterlife well im sorry to say but not all christians are as nice as you, they are constantly parading ther religion in front of me and saying im going to hell and they are constantly insulting every religion that is not theres, and they are still christians, you can say oh they arent like me so there not part of my religion, becuase they still believe in the same stuff as you and that makes them a part of youre religion if you want me to stop then rewrite youre bible and convince all of the prejiduce rude christians to stop being that way You're right, religions aren't obsticles, to everyone. To me, they are a form of an obsticles. Everything that challenges your beliefs are obsticles. Real or Fake. Religions are, of course, real. I never said they weren't. I just simply meant that for Christians, they are something that can alter our beliefs and possible change them. Some Christians, when faced with other religions, will choose not to be a Christian. An obsticle is also something that can change your life. Calling a religion a challenge or obsticle doesn't take away their serious meaning or place in people lives. Just like when you fight with someone, they become an obsticle you must overcome or face. Doesn't mean they aren't real and it doesn't mean that are right or wrong. They are human, but also a challenge that you must face. Just like religions are beliefs I must face. Wrong or Right. We won't know if they are wrong or right until we die. We can only believe, but we can never really know.
I don't believe that other religions are 'evil'. I can't even say if they are wrong. I have several friends who have different religions as mine, I still accept them and I would never perceive their religion or themselves as evil. As long as I am accepted, I will accept them. I think thats how everyone should be, no matter what religion. For example, you should accept me as I accept you. I accept the fact that you haven't choosen Christianity as your religion. That's your choice and I have no say over that. But I can have a say over what you think of other Christians and myself. I'm trying to let you see that we are not all bad. By judging all Christians as bad, you are doing the same thing that you claim we do. You are being hypocritical as you do so. To me, you don't seem evil. You just met the wrong Christians that gave a negative representation on us. But if you choose to still believe that, after talking with me, that's your choice. I will accept that and move on.
Atheism does have faults, because science has faults.
Not all Christians are as nice as me or accepting, but you must see that a lot are. Everyone is different and you shouldn't judge every single Christian just by the few you met.
I can't rewrite the bible. The bible already says to accept everyone. What more could I write? I am trying to spread acceptance. if you think the bible has less faults than science, then you had a deep misunderstanding of the world i usually dont attack people who believe in the science fiction known as religion but religion has always sounded like a bunch of bullshit to me BUT there are things you can learn for their beliefs Atheism- how to UNDERSTAND reality buddhism- peace/happiness etc. Christianity- well nothing i can see etc. etc.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:07 pm
im not saying my religion is better then any other religion but i do know that it is more tolernat, loving, caring and acpeting then christianity, we may be mad at you but we even accpet the existance of youre god, we accept the existance of all gods and godess, we dont have to worship them but we realize there our there. My religion is flexible and does not remain as rigid as it was 1000 years or so ago, it drifts and sways with the changes around it it also mixes science with religion, to us certain things happen becuase of natuarl events but others are the work of the gods and godess
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:09 pm
Irish Orchid Harlequin_Dust Sheagorath_The_MadGod other religions are NOT obsticles, they are actually other beliefs that we can learn from and enjoy sense a multitude of rleigions is better then just one how can you accpet everyones beliefs if you call there belifes evil and you dont even accpet the existance of there dietys and etc ? aithiests attack christianity becuase they now realize all the faults it has, im not saying that other religions dont have faults but athiesim does NOT have any faults sense they believe in only science and the world around them. We dont care about hell, and if we dont believe in it, there is no possible way for us to go there sense our own divinitys will do there own thing in our after lives if that religion has an afterlife well im sorry to say but not all christians are as nice as you, they are constantly parading ther religion in front of me and saying im going to hell and they are constantly insulting every religion that is not theres, and they are still christians, you can say oh they arent like me so there not part of my religion, becuase they still believe in the same stuff as you and that makes them a part of youre religion if you want me to stop then rewrite youre bible and convince all of the prejiduce rude christians to stop being that way You're right, religions aren't obsticles, to everyone. To me, they are a form of an obsticles. Everything that challenges your beliefs are obsticles. Real or Fake. Religions are, of course, real. I never said they weren't. I just simply meant that for Christians, they are something that can alter our beliefs and possible change them. Some Christians, when faced with other religions, will choose not to be a Christian. An obsticle is also something that can change your life. Calling a religion a challenge or obsticle doesn't take away their serious meaning or place in people lives. Just like when you fight with someone, they become an obsticle you must overcome or face. Doesn't mean they aren't real and it doesn't mean that are right or wrong. They are human, but also a challenge that you must face. Just like religions are beliefs I must face. Wrong or Right. We won't know if they are wrong or right until we die. We can only believe, but we can never really know.
I don't believe that other religions are 'evil'. I can't even say if they are wrong. I have several friends who have different religions as mine, I still accept them and I would never perceive their religion or themselves as evil. As long as I am accepted, I will accept them. I think thats how everyone should be, no matter what religion. For example, you should accept me as I accept you. I accept the fact that you haven't choosen Christianity as your religion. That's your choice and I have no say over that. But I can have a say over what you think of other Christians and myself. I'm trying to let you see that we are not all bad. By judging all Christians as bad, you are doing the same thing that you claim we do. You are being hypocritical as you do so. To me, you don't seem evil. You just met the wrong Christians that gave a negative representation on us. But if you choose to still believe that, after talking with me, that's your choice. I will accept that and move on.
Atheism does have faults, because science has faults.
Not all Christians are as nice as me or accepting, but you must see that a lot are. Everyone is different and you shouldn't judge every single Christian just by the few you met.
I can't rewrite the bible. The bible already says to accept everyone. What more could I write? I am trying to spread acceptance. if you think the bible has less faults than science, then you had a deep misunderstanding of the world i usually dont attack people who believe in the science fiction known as religion but religion has always sounded like a bunch of bullshit to me BUT there are things you can learn for their beliefs Atheism- how to UNDERSTAND reality buddhism- peace/happiness etc. Christianity- well nothing i can see etc. etc. Never said anything about Christianity having less faults that science or any religion for that matter.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:45 pm
It makes me happy to see this thread, in comparison to others on newgrounds this is more than ideal. Passionate arguments are being made on more than one side, and I am thrilled that so many have voiced their opinions.
However, this time around I would like to state a difference that I believe is instrumental to everyone in these debates while I was not posting: the difference between tolerance and acceptance. Christianity doesn’t have to accept any other religion, but we can and may tolerate any other religion.
I will also make the point that God can do whatever he wants. Technically, he is more merciful than anything or one I will ever see. If I were to go to a computer and make a world full of people, I would eventually get bored and instead of making their lives perfect and letting the machine run, I would destroy the world I made just to entertain myself.
And lastly, for Christians who want to “deal” with atheist, remember: if you’re right, you’re going to heaven. If they’re right, you won’t know the difference.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:57 pm
I just believe in God, The Bible and Jesus. I think I'm Christian, but I don't go to church all that often. Is there anything wrong with me? neutral
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:13 pm
LoveMagicFlower I just believe in God, The Bible and Jesus. I think I'm Christian, but I don't go to church all that often. Is there anything wrong with me? neutral I wouldn't say so. As a christian the most important element isn't how much you go to church, but how your relationship with the lord and Jesus is.
I do tend to take religion very personally, and though I love to talk about it with other people, I do keep my relationship with God and Jesus on a more private level. I still go to church every now and then, but mostly I stay at home and study via internet/radio web broadcasts from Greg Koukle or William Lane Craig, or just read the bible privately.
While it's still nice to go to church every now and again, St. Peter doesn't stand in front of the pearly gates and let people in based on how much they've been to church. Some people go to church every sunday yet live very anti-religious lifestyles. While others might not go to church as much, but still strive to be close to God and find their own way to do just that.
At times I admit I feel I should go to church more often, but don't feel that it is mandatory. It's a good place to learn about the Gospel and the nature of the lord, but its more of a guide to help you.
At least that's how I've seen it. And I have had some christians bash and condemn me for this as well.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:12 am
hi im glad to say that im a christan and my name is gabrielle it comes from the angel gabriel i love believing and feeling great that i came in this world for a purpose i want to spead jesus' messages over the world my friends ther sisters and they fight all the time and i just tell them wat the lord would say about this to give them some advice
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:37 pm
The bible sasys there is only one way to heaven through Jesus sit didn't say you have to go to church and believin jesus no just Jesus. I go to church and I think it strengthens the christian mind and spirit to do so but it is not necissary to be a true christian.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:19 pm
Has anyone heard a good sermon or read a passage in the bible that just sticks out to them lately? I would like to see what everyone’s up to at church or while they’re studying.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:18 pm
But why do you think i have to go to hell? i just dont see why you guys like to condemn almost half the planets population to burning in hell that and theres allot i could say right now that would get every christian in this guild pissed at me and it would completly debase there faith, but i wont sense none of you would belive me so yaaaa xd
to us the only way to reach youre Starhearth is if you live out as good as of a life as you can or by the morals that would be clear to you if you were Nevarian, then you will pass the tests and judgment and live with youre anscestors for the rest of eternity, sadly i dont think christians would allow a guide to be buried or cremated with you when you die so you may find it extremly hard to find youre starhearth without one
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:47 pm
Sheagorath_The_MadGod But why do you think i have to go to hell? i just dont see why you guys like to condemn almost half the planets population to burning in hell that and theres allot i could say right now that would get every christian in this guild pissed at me and it would completly debase there faith, but i wont sense none of you would belive me so yaaaa xd to us the only way to reach youre Starhearth is if you live out as good as of a life as you can or by the morals that would be clear to you if you were Nevarian, then you will pass the tests and judgment and live with youre anscestors for the rest of eternity, sadly i dont think christians would allow a guide to be buried or cremated with you when you die so you may find it extremly hard to find youre starhearth without one It is simple really, all those who don't believe in Jesus will go to hell. However, I'm sure there are certain exceptions (such as the retarded <-- not meant to be offensive, or people who have not heard of Christianity). That aside, I am firm in my faith and even if you had scientific proof that God "didn't exist," I would still believe in him. He is something not bound by your science or comprehension. Keep in mind no matter what you say, I will not be angered by you.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:01 pm
So you claim youre god has no bounds ...................... wow even gods are bound by laws and limits, also youre god is not a very powerful one, sense he is barly more then a baby compared in power and age to many other gods and godess
i dont friken care, ill tell you this and ill tell you it one time IM NOT GOING TO FN HELL, GET THAT THROUGH YOURE THICK SKULL
by the way, there are religions older then the human race, so for christains to claim that there god was first is kind of stupid when christainity is hardly the first religion to exist. Youre jesus was actually a refugee (he was not human) and as a kid he lived somehwere VERY diffrent he did not even believe in god, but something happend to him and he changed his religious views and started to preach about god and him being that gods child etc, this naturally cuased distress and so the leader of the place he was living at orderd him to leave, he did but he only left to the place where a huge amount of Nevariens lived he joined a college but he continued preaching and so the Empress put him under dorm arrest as you call it. He escaped though and killed three innocent college students and a Revealer who he stole a special sword from that allowed himt o escape to the human world, from there he succesfully spread his new religion, though he fabricate allot of his history, the man who orderd him killed was orderd by the Empress to kill him so i guess my religion is youre religions enemey
Another reason why i dont like christianity is all those cover ups
The Popes decree = the first attempt made by the abrahamics etc to exterminate the refugee religions and the gifted
Crusades = They were in truth battles faught to gain control of extremly old and pesky (to the god belivers) sites that were part of the first stage of the great evacuation
Witch Hunts = attempts to complete the extermination of the gifted and refugee religions
and aghhhhh there are so many more, some of them were not even comitted by the abrahamics but i stray from the topic
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:23 pm
That bit of information doesn’t faze me at all. Actually, even if any of what you said was true, I STILL would be a Christian. In any event, Christians and Catholics alike have been persecuted by other countries and religions, causing some of these wars. In other cases, nations would use the Christian banner falsely and twist words in the bible so that their meaning is something different, something to give them an excuse to kill (Puritans and the Indians for example). Also, when you have referred to many atrocities the “Christians” unleashed upon the world. Our religion starts with the first human beings, then it is brought to the Jews, then to Jesus and everything after is the Christians. I see in your accusation you completely missed the Jews, skipping right to the pope and the “first decree.” I view your post as interesting to say the least. As for hell, no Christian has the right to condemn you, it is not their job to send you to hell. And if you don’t believe in it, don’t let it bother you. Also for reference, I will not call you a liar, I will simply acknowledge your contribution to the thread, and keep it in mind. My opinion, is posted.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:29 pm
i used ABRAHAMIC which refers to anyone who believes in god and etc and the pope is the one who first formed the Hunters he arranged for many people who where fanatical beleivers in god and gave them a purpose, the pope now has no control over them sense they went renagade a while back but they are still carrying out there mission
oh and trust me. what i say is quiet true
WTF, christaisn and catholics are persecuted becuse THEY persecute everyone else, to solev that problem 1 stop persecuting other religions etc 2 apologize etc for all the crimes and rude things that have been said by youre religions 3 then eevryone else will be okay with you, they will stop harrasing you if you stop harrasing us
And youre sick and twisted if you would still follow a religion that has so many lies, secrest and crimes behind it did the us goverment not just pay for the past treatement of the african americans, i think christaisn, catholics and so one should pay for all the stuff they did, that pay should go towards helping those that are persecuted, archeology, etc
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