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 Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:59 am
Sanguina Cruenta I don't like him myself. Others do. I'm with you on that.  We're people- which means inside we're squishy, messy blobs of fat, muscle, mucus, bone and stuff. It also means that we're rarely who we think we are, want to be or able to look upon our life without regrets. We become our harshest critics. We try to cope, and the way we go about it often makes more messes. Because people are messy, and usually dealing with their own messes, lots of us rarely have any room for another person's mess. So we build unrealistic expectations for each other, and then get mad when they're not met- because we forget that they're messy squishy people too.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:02 am
Esiris Sanguina Cruenta I don't like him myself. Others do. I'm with you on that. He has a new book out based on teachings that came to him in a vision, according to Amazon.com. It sets off alarm bells in my head.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:50 am
No matter how much sleep I get, the bags under my eyes are there for good.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:04 am
Sanguina Cruenta He has a new book out based on teachings that came to him in a vision, according to Amazon.com. It sets off alarm bells in my head. He's a big advocate of the whole "imaginary genitals" school. I think it's really disrespectful for cisgendered gay and lesbians because it makes to room for their sexual expression. People say he's all about honoring homosexuality and paganism- but his views on it really undermine the sacredness of a lot of people's sexuality. He also publishes things that are supposed to be kept secret. I'm not part of his tradition, but it makes me dislike him.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:17 pm
I'd forgotten about this thread.
I have some ones to add:
"Great conversations about Paganism and witchcraft are totally hard to find."
I keep wanting to start up some great discussion and not knowing what to say. Even when meeting new Pagans I have trouble working out what to say. What did I used to say? Did I just throw around buzz-words and stuff and enjoy the "lol we are similar" feeling, or something? I'm sure I used to be able to have conversations. And then I grew up or something and so few of them seem fulfilling now. I guess it's related to the classic:
"You can't go home again."
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:42 pm
Esiris Because people are messy, and usually dealing with their own messes, lots of us rarely have any room for another person's mess. So we build unrealistic expectations for each other, and then get mad when they're not met- because we forget that they're messy squishy people too. This one hurts a lot. Sometimes, no matter how much you try to stop it, you'll end up hurting someone you care about, and you may not be able to fix it.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:50 pm
Esiris Sanguina Cruenta He has a new book out based on teachings that came to him in a vision, according to Amazon.com. It sets off alarm bells in my head. He's a big advocate of the whole "imaginary genitals" school. I think it's really disrespectful for cisgendered gay and lesbians because it makes to room for their sexual expression. People say he's all about honoring homosexuality and paganism- but his views on it really undermine the sacredness of a lot of people's sexuality. He also publishes things that are supposed to be kept secret. I'm not part of his tradition, but it makes me dislike him. this is a post from a long time ago but I wanted to know... what exactly do you mean by "imaginary genitals?"
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:12 pm
Adalyna this is a post from a long time ago but I wanted to know... what exactly do you mean by "imaginary genitals?" He reinforces this view that really any gay guy or lesbian has a spiritual v****a or p***s and that the sacredness of their sexuality is in honoring heteronormative sexuality. If people feel that- it's fine, but when he says he is about honoring gay men, and then undermines homosexual sex by sayng the way gay sex is sacred isn't because guys love each other and are having sex as men, it's because one is being a man and the other is pretending to be a woman. This isn't to be confused with someone who is trans who isn't their biological sex and is seeking to experience their gender- it's about cis-homosexuals and that's why it doesn't translate
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:39 pm
Esiris Adalyna this is a post from a long time ago but I wanted to know... what exactly do you mean by "imaginary genitals?" He reinforces this view that really any gay guy or lesbian has a spiritual v****a or p***s and that the sacredness of their sexuality is in honoring heteronormative sexuality. If people feel that- it's fine, but when he says he is about honoring gay men, and then undermines homosexual sex by sayng the way gay sex is sacred isn't because guys love each other and are having sex as men, it's because one is being a man and the other is pretending to be a woman. This isn't to be confused with someone who is trans who isn't their biological sex and is seeking to experience their gender- it's about cis-homosexuals and that's why it doesn't translate Ah I see. that's just as offensive to me as a trans person, and I don't even wanna know what trans, same gender relationships fall under within that. Thank you for clarifying.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:49 pm
Adalyna Ah I see. that's just as offensive to me as a trans person, and I don't even wanna know what trans, same gender relationships fall under within that. Thank you for clarifying. I know of people (I can think of a couple transwomen I know who are pagan) who don't identify as gay men of course, but do feel the way he speaks about having a kind of spiritual body that they want to match their physical body to- and I respect that, but I wanted to exclude them from what was being talked about because it was specifically targeting people who are homosexual and stuff. cat_sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:40 pm
Esiris Adalyna Ah I see. that's just as offensive to me as a trans person, and I don't even wanna know what trans, same gender relationships fall under within that. Thank you for clarifying. I know of people (I can think of a couple transwomen I know who are pagan) who don't identify as gay men of course, but do feel the way he speaks about having a kind of spiritual body that they want to match their physical body to- and I respect that, but I wanted to exclude them from what was being talked about because it was specifically targeting people who are homosexual and stuff. cat_sweatdrop one of the problems facing transgender people, as you likely already know, is the fact that people categorize us as "extra gay gay men" and categorize trans men as "extra dykey women" what it sounds like is this book does nothing but prey on that stereotype, which is harmful to both cisgender homosexuals and trans people of any sexual identification. If he was describing spiritual bodies in relationship to trans people specifically, it would be different, but our spiritual sex representation should connect to our gender, not sexuality. Most likely this is the context in which your friends identify with it, but that is just an inference. When fertility or sexuality are involved gender can be a sensitive issue easily mishandled with ignorance neutral , none of what you said was offensive in any way, if you thought i meant that.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:59 am
Adalyna one of the problems facing transgender people, as you likely already know, is the fact that people categorize us as "extra gay gay men" and categorize trans men as "extra dykey women" what it sounds like is this book does nothing but prey on that stereotype, which is harmful to both cisgender homosexuals and trans people of any sexual identification. If he was describing spiritual bodies in relationship to trans people specifically, it would be different, but our spiritual sex representation should connect to our gender, not sexuality. Most likely this is the context in which your friends identify with it, but that is just an inference. When fertility or sexuality are involved gender can be a sensitive issue easily mishandled with ignorance neutral , none of what you said was offensive in any way, if you thought i meant that. I didn't think anything you said showed you were offended- I just get frustrated with the whole situation. cat_3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:39 am
Esiris Adalyna this is a post from a long time ago but I wanted to know... what exactly do you mean by "imaginary genitals?" He reinforces this view that really any gay guy or lesbian has a spiritual v****a or p***s and that the sacredness of their sexuality is in honoring heteronormative sexuality. If people feel that- it's fine, but when he says he is about honoring gay men, and then undermines homosexual sex by sayng the way gay sex is sacred isn't because guys love each other and are having sex as men, it's because one is being a man and the other is pretending to be a woman. This isn't to be confused with someone who is trans who isn't their biological sex and is seeking to experience their gender- it's about cis-homosexuals and that's why it doesn't translate That's terrible. I know a gay man that thinks vaginas are just gross. Try telling him he or his boyfriend has an imaginary, spiritual v****a, see how he responds to you.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:39 am
CalledTheRaven That's terrible. I know a gay man that thinks vaginas are just gross. Try telling him he or his boyfriend has an imaginary, spiritual v****a, see how he responds to you. Yeh- which is why I don't like him as an author.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:27 am
Speaking up is better then staying silent out of fear of making a fool out of yourself.
Stress is not something you can just shove aside, stress can kill you.
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