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 Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:49 pm
The Iron Magus Camron Flamheart Most people would at first. But at the same time, you'd learn to live with it, because it'd overall save Gaia years of war between non-Grombies vs. Grombies. It's like adding the Cash Shop. People didn't want it at first, at all. But they've learned to live with it. I think the same rule would apply to some other things on Gaia also, such as the Battle System's crappy name. You just learn to live with it. Tell you what then, buddy. Just do me a favor and PM me your password. I'm just gonna go ahead and take all your stuff. Now, I know... you may not like that idea at first. But, you'll learn to live with it. There is no "war" between Grombies vs. non-grombies. There's a phase that people are going through because they got a lot of new skins, but it wasn't enough for them, and they want the one skin they can't have. So they got jealous and started arbitrarily hating the people that have it. Sure, they don't like that they can't have the skin. But at the same time, they'll learn to live with it. Kuma Woode
What if the grombie skin was released through another event that was equally painstaking if not more? What if your most valuable MC was re-released next month? rosiea184 I agree.. The best way to quell that elitism is to just re-release the skin. Yes, let's just cave in and appease the angry mob. Look, I understand that a lot of people want the skin. A lot of people want them to re-release old MCs. A lot of people want a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that its right to take away something that's important to a lot of people just to appease the masses.
Tim, that's different and you know it. Re-releasing an MC that can be obtained in the marketplace is one thing. People can get it if they work hard. I could never, NEVER, get your skin. Why? Because I was a stupid newbie when it came out.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:03 am
And that's what makes it special. Its the most valuable thing on Gaia I have, because its the one thing money can't buy. Can you really blame me for wanting to keep it that way?
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:07 am
Look, it's not the fact that I would feel happy about the skin being re-released, either. I spent hours in that event, just like any one of the Grombies these days. It's the fact that when I took the vial, I didn't think that they'd ever re-release the skin, even like they've done now. It doesn't matter if it's a potion for the select group of Grombies that still come here, or if it's a potion for the entire population. If someone can change back and go back in, it's a re-release. Now, all I'm trying to say, is that the least they could have done before this, is to have kept a better system to see who was Grombies before, and that may have saved them loads of trouble now. Ya know why? Because the Grombies that had to change back for something were left out. I spent hours running up and down those forums, just as any common Grombie did. Now, if you want to yell at me for trying to get something back that I worked for, be my guest. But you can't say that I wouldn't feel the same way any Grombie would, if the skin was re-released to everyone.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:08 pm
Camron Flamheart Look, it's not the fact that I would feel happy about the skin being re-released, either. I spent hours in that event, just like any one of the Grombies these days. It's the fact that when I took the vial, I didn't think that they'd ever re-release the skin, even like they've done now. It doesn't matter if it's a potion for the select group of Grombies that still come here, or if it's a potion for the entire population. If someone can change back and go back in, it's a re-release. Now, all I'm trying to say, is that the least they could have done before this, is to have kept a better system to see who was Grombies before, and that may have saved them loads of trouble now. Ya know why? Because the Grombies that had to change back for something were left out. I spent hours running up and down those forums, just as any common Grombie did. Now, if you want to yell at me for trying to get something back that I worked for, be my guest. But you can't say that I wouldn't feel the same way any Grombie would, if the skin was re-released to everyone. It's definitely not a re-release. Its a way for current grombies to switch back and forth between the new skins and their grombie skin without losing it forever. And I think it matters A LOT who the potion works on. But before we go any further, what do you mean by "Grombies who had to change back for something"?
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:56 pm
The Iron Magus Camron Flamheart Look, it's not the fact that I would feel happy about the skin being re-released, either. I spent hours in that event, just like any one of the Grombies these days. It's the fact that when I took the vial, I didn't think that they'd ever re-release the skin, even like they've done now. It doesn't matter if it's a potion for the select group of Grombies that still come here, or if it's a potion for the entire population. If someone can change back and go back in, it's a re-release. Now, all I'm trying to say, is that the least they could have done before this, is to have kept a better system to see who was Grombies before, and that may have saved them loads of trouble now. Ya know why? Because the Grombies that had to change back for something were left out. I spent hours running up and down those forums, just as any common Grombie did. Now, if you want to yell at me for trying to get something back that I worked for, be my guest. But you can't say that I wouldn't feel the same way any Grombie would, if the skin was re-released to everyone. It's definitely not a re-release. Its a way for current grombies to switch back and forth between the new skins and their grombie skin without losing it forever. And I think it matters A LOT who the potion works on. But before we go any further, what do you mean by "Grombies who had to change back for something"?
Also, it's still a re-release. If one can change back, and buy their way back in, it's a re-release. If they re-release the Zombie skins to only those who were zombies before, it's a re-release. Not to the general public, but still a re-release. Even if it's only to a little over 100 people.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:14 pm
Then it was done before. In the Zurg event, when a grombie drank the Energy Drink they turned into aliens, and when they drank the Red Bino they were back to normal. I know that because I've seen it. Even so, I never saw you complaining about that. It also happened during the vampire event, only in it you didn't have to buy something, but you could speak with Louie and Edmund to change back and fort.
This new potion is very much like the Red Bino and talkind to Edmund, only this time it will turn you back into a Grombie not only if you drink the ED, but the Centaur, Vampire and Imp potions. It's always been like that with Grombies - while humans "keep" their skins under the others, Grombies keep theirs. The only way for a Grombie to lose his skin has always been drinking the Vial of Unknown Liquid.
I think the same works for vampires, though I've never tested it. Who knows, maybe it's even like this for the newer skins too.
In other words, stop referring to it as a "potion that turns you into a Grombie" but "a potion that returns you to your previous skin, if you had it before sticking another one over it."
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:54 am
ummm...please forgive me for saying so, but...this topic seems to be getting really heated up and...I think it would be best if we all sort of left it alone before it goes too far and turns into a real argument between people. I'm not taking any sides, but, for the sake of peace and unity, I think this entire issue should just be ignored and forgotten as far as zombie/grombie skins go...
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:57 am
I considered editing my post and saying the same after a while sweatdrop It's always been a bothersome thing to talk about, and I guess we all should just agree to disagree on it.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:15 pm
Camron Flamheart I, for one, had to change accounts because the first account was hacked. Not only that, but I had to change out of the skin because there were extremely buggy item glitches going on and I wasn't feeling too happy about it. Now, if one of those things had happened to you after the event, would you want the skin back?
Also, it's still a re-release. If one can change back, and buy their way back in, it's a re-release. If they re-release the Zombie skins to only those who were zombies before, it's a re-release. Not to the general public, but still a re-release. Even if it's only to a little over 100 people. Well, if you had to change accounts because of a hacking, that's a hacking issue--and has nothing to do with the grombie issue. I'll agree with you that they could handle hacking cases better, but it doesn't have much bearing on the current issue. As far as "having" to change back because of glitches, that was still your choice. You "weren't too happy" with the side effects of the grombie skin, so you ditched it. Your call. The rest of us stuck with it. As far as the re-release issue, Nite pretty much already said everything. You're just being stubborn on that issue. You can't possibly think you have a rational point.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:41 pm
My take on re-releasing Zombie/Grombie?
1: Re-release Zombie, because of the situation where they were all wiped out. However, make it available to those that have the patience or funds to attain it. And then, when [hopefully] the new event Zombie is released, it will be drastically different but available at a cheaper price to ease the more eager crowd. Whereas the real dedicated users can go for the original Zombie. [Though I can really hope that the Admins can find a way to re-grant the skin to Zombies that lost it in that accident.]
2: Do not re-release Grombie, because those who earned it still have it. Not to mention, 2 Death Whispers make a very nice knock-off, translating the price to about 1500 Cash or 200k, making it a fair compromise. The solution has already been presented, and I think it's ridiculous that people are still trying to get at the Grombies because of whatever reason.
Personal feelings towards the issue aside, the Admins and Devs are indeed trying to compromise both sides here. Re-releasing the skin and keeping it away forever are, what I think, to be 2 extremes on the spectrum, and it is possible to find a balance. The Death Whisper was at least an effort towards this balance.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:17 pm
Eh, the new skins are cute but too much trouble. I don't want to spend that much on something I might decide I don't like later. smile
'Sides... since my happy rose evolved -again- I can make myself purple if I want and that's good enough for me... cause I can unequip it when I get tired. razz
-same reasons she loves her evolving items hair too... because underneath she'll always have her original hair w/o buying it back*
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:24 pm
Aznburninator My take on re-releasing Zombie/Grombie? 1: Re-release Zombie, because of the situation where they were all wiped out. However, make it available to those that have the patience or funds to attain it. And then, when [hopefully] the new event Zombie is released, it will be drastically different but available at a cheaper price to ease the more eager crowd. Whereas the real dedicated users can go for the original Zombie. [Though I can really hope that the Admins can find a way to re-grant the skin to Zombies that lost it in that accident.] 2: Do not re-release Grombie, because those who earned it still have it. Not to mention, 2 Death Whispers make a very nice knock-off, translating the price to about 1500 Cash or 200k, making it a fair compromise. The solution has already been presented, and I think it's ridiculous that people are still trying to get at the Grombies because of whatever reason. Personal feelings towards the issue aside, the Admins and Devs are indeed trying to compromise both sides here. Re-releasing the skin and keeping it away forever are, what I think, to be 2 extremes on the spectrum, and it is possible to find a balance. The Death Whisper was at least an effort towards this balance. I agree with all the words you just said.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:32 pm
The Iron Magus Aznburninator My take on re-releasing Zombie/Grombie? 1: Re-release Zombie, because of the situation where they were all wiped out. However, make it available to those that have the patience or funds to attain it. And then, when [hopefully] the new event Zombie is released, it will be drastically different but available at a cheaper price to ease the more eager crowd. Whereas the real dedicated users can go for the original Zombie. [Though I can really hope that the Admins can find a way to re-grant the skin to Zombies that lost it in that accident.] 2: Do not re-release Grombie, because those who earned it still have it. Not to mention, 2 Death Whispers make a very nice knock-off, translating the price to about 1500 Cash or 200k, making it a fair compromise. The solution has already been presented, and I think it's ridiculous that people are still trying to get at the Grombies because of whatever reason. Personal feelings towards the issue aside, the Admins and Devs are indeed trying to compromise both sides here. Re-releasing the skin and keeping it away forever are, what I think, to be 2 extremes on the spectrum, and it is possible to find a balance. The Death Whisper was at least an effort towards this balance. I agree with all the words you just said. Same as what Tim said.
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