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Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:50 am


Eirwyn
eek *Fans Richard's sizzling brain pan*

Thanks. It was so overheated I was a step away from losing my memory or turning into Zagreus or something. I've a new sympathy for Eight now I've grasped the mental heath risks inherrant in thinking about his life. I'd have been done for had I tried to summarise the 'bottle universe' debate.

There's a great 'offscreen' moment on page 129 of Father Time where Iris turns up and tries to explain to the (typically) amnesiac Doctor who he is. The scene later got written up in full and turned up in one of the charity anthologies...

http://www.iriswildthyme.thiswaydown.org/IrisExplains.html

Lullabee
And Withnail isn't sufficiently harried-- he harries other people.


Very true. I guess Rose's point would be that a Withnail who'd experienced quite Fitz's level of trauma might not retain his swagger but would retain his disolution and pathos, leaving us with something vaugely Fitzy.

I love the way you talk about the character. I'm guessing you write fanfic...?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:07 am


Richard_Swift
I love the way you talk about the character. I'm guessing you write fanfic...?

I try writing fanfic. But, unfortunately, between Fitz and I, we've achieved a critical mass of laziness that even the Doctor can't get moving. Fitz insists he wants me to write PWP, the Doctor wants fluffy, plotty crackfic, and I have my own ideas which neither of them like. So we're getting nowhere fast. I would put Iris in it, except between her and Fitz (and his dishonorable intentions!), I'd blush to write it.

Please tell me you write fanfic! You're obviously not lazy *pauses to boggle at THAT POST* and I'm much better at reading than writing, except for writing about practically nothing.

Lullabee
Crew

Timid Elocutionist


Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:39 am


Lullabee

I try writing fanfic. But, unfortunately, between Fitz and I, we've achieved a critical mass of laziness that even the Doctor can't get moving. Fitz insists he wants me to write PWP, the Doctor wants fluffy, plotty crackfic, and I have my own ideas which neither of them like. So we're getting nowhere fast. I would put Iris in it, except between her and Fitz (and his dishonorable intentions!), I'd blush to write it.


The solution is to do curtainfic with the 'Obverse' Fitz and Eight from The Blue Angel. That way Fitz gets his PWP, the Doctor gets his crackfic, Iris gets to float around the margins and you can't go wrong.

Seriously though, with your turn of phrase and grasp on the characters you need to just get some down. Regardless of genre, it's not going to be bad.
Lullabee


Please tell me you write fanfic!

Very little. Though Maiadorn could make me blush here as he's read some of the stuff I did in the 90s.

If you want to read my Fitz though, I did co-plot The Book of the Still.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:48 pm


*Quick bit of research & Richard's cover is now blown* smile

Eirwyn


Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:16 am


Eirwyn
*Quick bit of research & Richard's cover is now blown* smile


Curses! Now my entire infiltration strategy is compromised!

Not that I want to help anybody expose my identity, but just so that I don't seem to be taking undue credit, I've got to add here that I'm not the name on the cover (the guy who actually wrote it) but just the guy credited in the 'About The Other Author' blurb at the back.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:35 pm


Actually, I found you online, on a page about the book.
In order to allow everybody else the joy of the hunt, I won't say which site that page is from. smile
Very cool having you here, Richard. 3nodding A good Who group anywhere needs a few encyclopedic brains! lol

Eirwyn


Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:20 pm


Eirwyn
Very cool having you here, Richard. 3nodding A good Who group anywhere needs a few encyclopedic brains! lol


Don't know about that. smile Encyclopedias are organised and reliable wheras the Who-related region of my brain is just a big jumble of chaotic fragments it's hoovered up over the years. A big chaotic jumble that, when I'm trying to get it to recall useful things like the details of the Pyramids of Mars backstory instead starts randomly shouting "DID YOU KNOW THE SEVENTH DOCTOR'S FAVOURITE BISCUITS WERE CHOCOLATE HOB-NOBS?" at me.

Thanks a lot though! heart

I'm really enjoying being here...can't wait to see what the forum's like when there's an actual season in progess.


(And of course, the wonderful thing about Doctor Who is the more that anyone finds out about it, the more they realise that nobody really knows anything. smile )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:31 pm


Richard_Swift
Eirwyn
*Quick bit of research & Richard's cover is now blown* smile


Curses! Now my entire infiltration strategy is compromised!

Not that I want to help anybody expose my identity, but just so that I don't seem to be taking undue credit, I've got to add here that I'm not the name on the cover (the guy who actually wrote it) but just the guy credited in the 'About The Other Author' blurb at the back.

So, how's the literature degree then? *obligatory stupid comment* *mentally gibbering over having, at one point, not come across as stupid to someone who's ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH BEEN PUBLISHED*

Lullabee
Crew

Timid Elocutionist


Eirwyn

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:39 pm


So you think these published Who writers haven't been fanfic writers themselves? smile
Heck, I have an old issue of British fanzine The Chronicle from 1988 that has the fanfic story "Country of the Blind" by Paul Cornell (volume 3)....
...and then I got to do the cover of volume 4 & several cartoons throughout the book. xd
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:50 pm


Eirwyn
So you think these published Who writers haven't been fanfic writers themselves? smile
Heck, I have an old issue of British fanzine The Chronicle from 1988 that has the fanfic story "Country of the Blind" by Paul Cornell (volume 3)....
...and then I got to do the cover of volume 4 & several cartoons throughout the book. xd

Oh, I know that today's published Who writers are yesterday's fic writers, but... today's fic writers aren't all tomorrow's published writers. It's sort of like rectangles and squares... not to call Richard or anyone a square, natch.

Although I am starting to get the feeling that if I started kissing the feet of every BNF I meet, my lips'd get chapped. blaugh

Lullabee
Crew

Timid Elocutionist


Teatime Brutality

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:26 am


Lullabee

So, how's the literature degree then?

Went like a charm. smile
Getting to that pesky PhD though...that's more of an ongoing struggle.

Eirwyn
So you think these published Who writers haven't been fanfic writers themselves? smile
Heck, I have an old issue of British fanzine The Chronicle from 1988 that has the fanfic story "Country of the Blind" by Paul Cornell (volume 3)....
...and then I got to do the cover of volume 4 & several cartoons throughout the book. xd

smile
That's part of what I love about post '89 Who - the fans took control at all levels.

Which should, by any normal logic, mean that the series became incredibly insular, cultish and self-addressing. A series written by the hardcore fans, might naturally be thought to be for the hardcore fans.

But instead the reverse happened - fans made their way up through the 'zines, through the New Adventures and ultimately into the plush offices of BBC Wales where they somehow managed to make the show more popular than it's ever been before.

The lunatics took control of the asylum... then turned on the Secret Global Lunacy Ray to share the bliss of madness with the rest of the planet.

In these days of by-the-numbers television aimed cynically at niche demographics and written by corporate battery hens, the story of Doctor Who's rise from the grave is so heartening because it's so simple - Writers who've got a reason to care about thier work can make impossible stuff happen.

Anyway...enough gushing. Back on topic.

Anyone notice the two big novel references in 'Reset', the most recent Torchwood ep?

The changes that TARDIS travel makes to a companion's immune system, as noted by the scan of Martha, were first introduced in Love and War and went on to be an important plot point in RTD's own Damaged Goods.

And Martha uses 'Samantha Jones' as her alias!


Very even handed. One shout out for the New Adventures generation, and one to the EDAs. smile
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:51 pm


My favorite is Doctor/Rose. It can be any Doctor. It doesn't really matter to me as long as it is a Doctor. ... If its more than one it is a little more interesting. Nine/Rose is one of my favorites though.

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