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 Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:01 am
Balcerzak Lady Willow Black Alexi Terianis Lady Willow Black Chocolate Kisses over at (107|-42) must die. scream Oh? Why and how quickly? I'll see what I can do. No, I'm not in the top five. I fight for my spot in the top ten, if I'm lucky. I grow slowly, and I could blame that, but it's not really that. I care more for the battle in these games than the economy, so I'm slow most of the time. He has attacked me eleven times in three days. I want his town burned, his children sold as slaves, and his women made to wear unflattering dresses. stare What was the size of his largest army, and has he been using scouts? Sometimes all you can do is defend, especially against people with big friends. sad I am more than happy to contribute some defenders if you need, however. Between us, I am sure we can make you an unattractive target for Chocolate Kisses.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:35 am
Aye, i'm starting to have a surplus of supplies, i'll train up Paladins tomorrow and then send them your way, Will.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:41 am
Wow, I just read the battle reports and his alliance info. burning_eyes Um, yah.
Maybe for now you are going to have to send any units you build to someone else as you make them, and keep your cranny up. After a few days, he will probably get bored of trying. If not, maybe Arc can show some of his winning ways and get you an NAP... we have a few alliances in common with TF - 3, so it might be possible. Until then, I am afraid you will either have to be friendly with him or ignore him. sad
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:17 am
Will, there're 82 Thunders headed your way. It's a 12 hour ride, but they're coming. It's all the cavalry I have.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:39 am
I'm massing tuetonic knights. But right now, I'm considering taking the moment to research spearmen. They're slower, but with my barracks the level it is, I could probably get a metric ton and a half in about two days. How much wheat do you produce, Willow? I'll try to keep the number below that when I send them. He sent all cavalry, last I checked, so maybe that could make a dent?
(Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for me to get the upgrade, and the long walk. But I bet I could get 100 down to you by the end of the week.)
Edit: Also - I'm finally researching catapults. Soon, I'll start stepping up my resource production again, and I can do some honest fighting.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:38 am
I will be able to start pumping out defensive units again in about 3 days. Level 14 hero's mansion now building... so I need to wait a few hours to be able to upgrade my warehouse again, then the two day push for level 15 and that oasis is mine! pirate
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:24 pm
I'm sending 20 phalanx right now, it's not much but its the best I can do at the moment. They're going to take a while to get there though. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:37 pm
Phoenix Haven
Population: 604
Wood: 1250/hr
> 0 @ Level 11
> 4 @ Level 10
Clay: 1250/hr
> 0 @ Level 11
> 4 @ Level 10
Iron: 1193/hr
> 1 @ Level 10
> 3 @ Level 9
Wheat: 1280/hr
> 3 @ Level 10
> 3 @ Level 9
Level 15: Academy, Main Building
Level 14: Trapper
Level 13: Granary (21400)
Level 12: Marketplace, Warehouse (17600)
Level 11: Trapper
Level 10: Cranny 1 (2000 hidden), Hero's Mansion, Palace, Palisade, Stable
Level 9: Stone Mason
Level 8:
Level 7: Blacksmith
Level 6: Barracks
Level 5: Armory, Brickworks, Flour Mill, Iron Foundry, Rally Point, Sawmill
Level 4: Bakery
Level 3: Embassy
140 Traps
136 Phalanx
9 Swordsmen
01 Pathfinder
01 Hero
Mercenaries:
82 Theutates Thunder enroute to Will
Maint: 920/2085
Intended Build: Funneling 90% of resources to Rising Phoenix
Rising Phoenix
Population: 321
Wood: 689/hr
> 1 @ Level 10
> 1 @ Level 8
> 2 @ Level 7
Clay: 753/hr
> 1 @ Level 10
> 4 @ Level 7
Iron: 625/hr
> 1 @ Level 10
> 2 @ Level 8
Wheat: 534/hr
> 1 @ Level 10
> 5 @ Level 7
Level 11: Granary
Level 10: Cranny, Main Building, Warehouse
Level 09:
Level 08: Trapper
Level 07:
Level 06: Residence
Level 05: Brickworks, Flour Mill, Iron Foundry, Sawmill
Level 04:
Level 03: Barracks, Marketplace
Level 02: Academy
Level 01: Heroes Mansion, Palisade, Rally Point
Defense:
80 Traps
8 Phalanx
Maint: 293/660
Intended Build: Bakery to L5. Max remaining resources. Begin buildup to seige weaponry.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:40 pm
He won't be able to feed defenders. Dragonace catapulted his granery into oblivion (along with his palace, barracks, main building, wall....) burning_eyes Okay, Arc, if you are around I think it is time to practise some well-placed negotiations. This guy obviously has something out for Will, so good luck...
Edit: Or someone else with percieved clout and negotiation skills? He is almost to the point where it would be better to delete the village and start over elsewhere. cry
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:20 pm
Silkara He won't be able to feed defenders. Dragonace catapulted his granery into oblivion (along with his palace, barracks, main building, wall....) burning_eyes Okay, Arc, if you are around I think it is time to practise some well-placed negotiations. This guy obviously has something out for Will, so good luck... Edit: Or someone else with percieved clout and negotiation skills? He is almost to the point where it would be better to delete the village and start over elsewhere. cry Does anyone know WHY?
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:00 pm
Frozen Glade
Population: 423
Wood: 906/hr
1 @ Level 10
3 @ Level 8
Clay: 818/hr
1 @ Level 10
1 @ Level 9
2 @ Level 8
Iron: 556/hr
1 @ Level 9
3 @ Level 8
Wheat: 213/hr
6 @ Level 8
Level 13: Academy, Main Building
Level 12: Granary
Level 11: Warehouse
Level 10: Cranny, Palace, Hero's Mansion
Level 9: Earth Wall
Level 8: Marketplace
Level 7: Stable
Level 6:
Level 5: Flour Mill
Level 4: Sawmill, Brickworks
Level 3: Blacksmith, Cranny, Barracks
Level 2: Rally Point, Barracks, Stone Mason
Level 1: Armory, Embassy, Siege Workshop
Maint 725/938
Defense
1 Hero(Level 1 Axeman)
100 Phalanx
8 Druidrider
134 Macemen
34 Axemen
2 Scout
2 Ram
Build Plan: Academy to 15, Stable to 10, Wheat field to level 10, start building up a bakery
Winterfell
Population: 103
Wood: 41/hr
1 @ Level 4
Clay: 28/hr
1 @ Level 4
Iron: 19/hr
1 @ Level 3
Wheat: 225/hr
1 @ Level 5
11 @ Level 4
1 @ Level 3
Level 8: Granary
Level 7: Warehouse, Main Building
Level 6: Academy
Level 5:
Level 4:
Level 3: Barracks, Marketplace, Stable, Flour Mill
Level 2:
Level 1: Cranny, Rally Point, Hero's Mansion
Maint: 250/475
Defense
60 Macemen
66 Spearmen
12 Axemen
1 Scout
4 Paladin
Build Plan: Building up resources between Granary/Warehouse and Academy upgrades. Mill to level 4, all wheat fields to level 5, Macemen/Axemen to 100/50.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:39 pm
Elliedoll Silkara He won't be able to feed defenders. Dragonace catapulted his granery into oblivion (along with his palace, barracks, main building, wall....) burning_eyes Okay, Arc, if you are around I think it is time to practise some well-placed negotiations. This guy obviously has something out for Will, so good luck... Edit: Or someone else with percieved clout and negotiation skills? He is almost to the point where it would be better to delete the village and start over elsewhere. cry Does anyone know WHY? Dragonace's Profile It is a game with raiding and pillaging after-all. What did you expect? Everyone sending each other chocolate kisses and stuffed bunnies? Also, I don't yet have anything that can begin to hold a candle to 800 swordmen on the defense, but I'm pumping some more out as I can.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:29 pm
Balcerzak Also, I don't yet have anything that can begin to hold a candle to 800 swordmen on the defense, but I'm pumping some more out as I can. I can't touch that yet. Do you want me to mass the forces I would need to dent it, or start to break it down? I can. I'd be willing to go down for that.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:47 am
Balcerzak Elliedoll Silkara He won't be able to feed defenders. Dragonace catapulted his granery into oblivion (along with his palace, barracks, main building, wall....) burning_eyes Okay, Arc, if you are around I think it is time to practise some well-placed negotiations. This guy obviously has something out for Will, so good luck... Edit: Or someone else with percieved clout and negotiation skills? He is almost to the point where it would be better to delete the village and start over elsewhere. cry Does anyone know WHY? Dragonace's Profile It is a game with raiding and pillaging after-all. What did you expect? Everyone sending each other chocolate kisses and stuffed bunnies? Also, I don't yet have anything that can begin to hold a candle to 800 swordmen on the defense, but I'm pumping some more out as I can. ... I don't dare respond to this in-game, lest I be this a*****e's next target. None of us can cope with the kind of force this guy has fielded. But his stated philosophy triggered some thoughts... spaceFrom a strictly historical perspective, the kind of mayhem you've dealt out is self defeating. Raiders would never dream of destroying mercantile infrastructure (warehouse, granary, administrative, etc.); such actions would vastly diminish the value of the target for future strikes. Barbarian hordes would never think twice about that kind of attack, simply because they're never planning on coming back. But by the same token, the barbarians aren't really interested in anything beyond spendable/easily tradable items. The only reason an attack of this magnitude would be useful for would be vengeance; quite literally bombing the would-be foe into the stone age as 'payment' for some slight (either real or imagined). One-shot attacks also fall into this category, but in a game based on expansionist philosophy (as this one is) it makes little sense as a strategic plan. The scorched earth attack cares little for resources, seeking only to raze the target to the ground, then salting the earth to prevent any chance of rebuilding.
spaceWith this in mind, your response is at best flawed. Raiding and pillaging are two different things. Pillaging would fall mostly under the vengeance attack, while raiding would want to preserve the infrastructer and target only the military capabilities - this approach leaves a sweet, mostly undefended target for future strikes. The raider could then demand danegeld to stave off further attacks, providing the attacker with steady income from a 'client state'. This approach pays off in the long term, as the aggressor state has the option of disregarding the payment, striking again, and then demanding an even higher tribute.
spaceSo again... why?
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:08 am
After looking the reports over, I think I might have an idea.
Everything aside from the Granary/Warehouse is in sync with the typical smackdown to farm status, making me think that he set the Catas to random rather than choosing an actual target.
Though I *am* surprised to not see Will's wheatfields destroyed. That would entirely confirm my suspicions. Looks like Arc has his work cut out, between TF 3 and -RING-.
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