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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:51 pm


Gregar828
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Pffft... the Kyuubi itself wants Sev as its' host. Villages can't say otherwise razz


They cannot, but I can. I'm sorry, but I cannot allow the kyuubi to be from Kirigakure. If you would like to apply for the Sanbi, you're more than welcome to. Then you would have a demon within Kirigakure.


So if I change my rpc back to his original village, Konoha... nothing would change, yet he would be accepted?


If you're thinking of cutting all ties with Konoha and residing permanently in Kiri, no that will not be allowed.


Just helping you out. razz

Learn how to read "Gregarian" haha
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:54 am


Gregar828
Stormold
Gregar828
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Pffft... the Kyuubi itself wants Sev as its' host. Villages can't say otherwise razz


They cannot, but I can. I'm sorry, but I cannot allow the kyuubi to be from Kirigakure. If you would like to apply for the Sanbi, you're more than welcome to. Then you would have a demon within Kirigakure.


So if I change my rpc back to his original village, Konoha... nothing would change, yet he would be accepted?


If you're thinking of cutting all ties with Konoha and residing permanently in Kiri, no that will not be allowed.

....Konoha currently has a tyrant running the village, and you expect his RPC to return to Konoha and enjoy what has happened there as well as remain a shinobi there.....by force? Host or not, he probably wouldn't go back of his own volition in the first place. Hell, if Lance's RPC returned to find me gone and some kid who looks like a snake sitting at my desk, do you not think he'd be viable to turn tail and find a new village?

Long story short, you can't really control where his RPC goes and what he's doing. Just as well, you cannot...I repeat gregar CANNOT dictate what an individual's RPC does just because he has a demon. If it were loose and he wanted to apply for it THEN move to Kiri I'd be with you on this one, but even if he wanted to move to Kumo you can't just say he's "not allowed" to do so because he has a demon.

What, you want Kaze to sit in empty Iwagakure with the Yonbi because it's supposed to be there? Demon hosts are going to get displaced, you can't force them to stay in one village because that's where the demon started out.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:38 am


Luo1304
Gregar828
Stormold
Gregar828
Stormold
Pffft... the Kyuubi itself wants Sev as its' host. Villages can't say otherwise razz


They cannot, but I can. I'm sorry, but I cannot allow the kyuubi to be from Kirigakure. If you would like to apply for the Sanbi, you're more than welcome to. Then you would have a demon within Kirigakure.


So if I change my rpc back to his original village, Konoha... nothing would change, yet he would be accepted?


If you're thinking of cutting all ties with Konoha and residing permanently in Kiri, no that will not be allowed.

....Konoha currently has a tyrant running the village, and you expect his RPC to return to Konoha and enjoy what has happened there as well as remain a shinobi there.....by force? Host or not, he probably wouldn't go back of his own volition in the first place. Hell, if Lance's RPC returned to find me gone and some kid who looks like a snake sitting at my desk, do you not think he'd be viable to turn tail and find a new village?

Long story short, you can't really control where his RPC goes and what he's doing. Just as well, you cannot...I repeat gregar CANNOT dictate what an individual's RPC does just because he has a demon. If it were loose and he wanted to apply for it THEN move to Kiri I'd be with you on this one, but even if he wanted to move to Kumo you can't just say he's "not allowed" to do so because he has a demon.

What, you want Kaze to sit in empty Iwagakure with the Yonbi because it's supposed to be there? Demon hosts are going to get displaced, you can't force them to stay in one village because that's where the demon started out.


Return? Stormold's RPC has been inactive for months. If by return you mean allow him to go back to Konoha from Kiri then no, because he should be starting off in Konoha. In addition, Stormold's RPC knows nothing of the new kage, so that is not a legitimate reason to avoid konoha and stay in another village.

Demons cannot be allowed to change their village on a whim. Imagine if every demon host suddenly decided to migrate to one village? Ignoring the fact that that would probably be a metagaming tactic, what do we do now that we have one village so obviously overpowered? The Kyuubi stays in Konoha, or Stormold's RPC can apply for a new demon/bloodline and be a Kirigakure shinobi.

That is completely different. Iwagakure has been destroyed, so the Yonbi has been forced to move there. But ever since the guild has existed, stormold has claimed Konoha residence to get the Kyuubi, only to spend absolutely all time in Kirigakure. Its unfair to Konoha to lose their trademark demon like that, and unfair to any actual loyal Konoha shinobi who may want the Kyuubi.
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:17 am


Gregar828
Luo1304
Gregar828
Stormold
Gregar828
Stormold
Pffft... the Kyuubi itself wants Sev as its' host. Villages can't say otherwise razz


They cannot, but I can. I'm sorry, but I cannot allow the kyuubi to be from Kirigakure. If you would like to apply for the Sanbi, you're more than welcome to. Then you would have a demon within Kirigakure.


So if I change my rpc back to his original village, Konoha... nothing would change, yet he would be accepted?


If you're thinking of cutting all ties with Konoha and residing permanently in Kiri, no that will not be allowed.

....Konoha currently has a tyrant running the village, and you expect his RPC to return to Konoha and enjoy what has happened there as well as remain a shinobi there.....by force? Host or not, he probably wouldn't go back of his own volition in the first place. Hell, if Lance's RPC returned to find me gone and some kid who looks like a snake sitting at my desk, do you not think he'd be viable to turn tail and find a new village?

Long story short, you can't really control where his RPC goes and what he's doing. Just as well, you cannot...I repeat gregar CANNOT dictate what an individual's RPC does just because he has a demon. If it were loose and he wanted to apply for it THEN move to Kiri I'd be with you on this one, but even if he wanted to move to Kumo you can't just say he's "not allowed" to do so because he has a demon.

What, you want Kaze to sit in empty Iwagakure with the Yonbi because it's supposed to be there? Demon hosts are going to get displaced, you can't force them to stay in one village because that's where the demon started out.


Return? Stormold's RPC has been inactive for months. If by return you mean allow him to go back to Konoha from Kiri then no, because he should be starting off in Konoha. In addition, Stormold's RPC knows nothing of the new kage, so that is not a legitimate reason to avoid konoha and stay in another village.

Demons cannot be allowed to change their village on a whim. Imagine if every demon host suddenly decided to migrate to one village? Ignoring the fact that that would probably be a metagaming tactic, what do we do now that we have one village so obviously overpowered? The Kyuubi stays in Konoha, or Stormold's RPC can apply for a new demon/bloodline and be a Kirigakure shinobi.

That is completely different. Iwagakure has been destroyed, so the Yonbi has been forced to move there. But ever since the guild has existed, stormold has claimed Konoha residence to get the Kyuubi, only to spend absolutely all time in Kirigakure. Its unfair to Konoha to lose their trademark demon like that, and unfair to any actual loyal Konoha shinobi who may want the Kyuubi.

I don't understand why he should be starting off in Konoha...If his RPC was here last, wouldn't it just make sense for him to make the trek back? And because his RPC doesn't know about the new kage, do you think he'll never know, because he'll know once he's there either way we slice it.

That scenario you posed is completely illogical. Nine RPC's with demons would in no way all migrate to one village without it being obvious that it was happening. Since he's lost his character I can certainly understand the demon staying in Konoha, however if his RPC were to leave Konoha or ANY demon host for that matter were to leave their village for personal reasons of any sort, you cannot force them to stay in that village because "that's the way things are supposed to be." That in itself is metagaming someone elses character into doing what you want, and it is not fair to the person playing the part.

And that situation is no different in the fact that because of certain circumstances he moved from Iwa. I could care less where a demon host moves, as long as the reasoning makes sense. In Sev's case no, there really is no reason for his old RPC had it still existed to move to Kirigakure full time since he could always return for training from Konoha. However, if his RPC still existed and returned to Konoha and found Zin in power and he decided he did not enjoy a dictator for a leader, there would be no reason for you to forcibly detain his RPC in Konoha and tell him he HAS to be there. There is no where in our rule book that states for demon hosts that despite any in our out of roleplay reasons they would have for leaving a village, they cannot do so and performing this action results in them losing their demon.

As I said before using Lance as an example, if his RPC returned to Kirigakure and there was logical reason for him not wishing to stay with the village, would you force Lance to stay in Kiri because he is the Gobi host despite his objections to it, or would you allow his character to leave?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:57 pm


sweatdrop I think I created an imaginary war of "What if". This seems to have spiraled into something I wasn't expecting. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:45 pm


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sweatdrop I think I created an imaginary war of "What if". This seems to have spiraled into something I wasn't expecting. sweatdrop


Luo and I have resolved this issue. There will be no more of these types of posts, don't worry.

Gregar828
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:54 pm


Gregar828


I still feel somewhat responsible for the issue nonetheless. Sorry for the commotion. Let me know if anything becomes of Lance's post. I'll be happy to dig up more information on a logical execution of such a feat.

The only problem that still remains is that "insanity factor". Obviously the Nine-Tails is a beast of great power desired by all villages. The insanity factor would more then likely be "who the hell gets it!" That's really the only flaw to the entire set up. Obviously other villages could get involved, but it's unlikely due to the inactivity of some. Whoops... sweatdrop I was rambling on. If this needs to be discussed further, shoot me a PM. I don't want a reenactment of what just happened.


I'm just happy neutral grounds where found. smile
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 pm


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Gregar828


I still feel somewhat responsible for the issue nonetheless. Sorry for the commotion. Let me know if anything becomes of Lance's post. I'll be happy to dig up more information on a logical execution of such a feat.

The only problem that still remains is that "insanity factor". Obviously the Nine-Tails is a beast of great power desired by all villages. The insanity factor would more then likely be "who the hell gets it!" That's really the only flaw to the entire set up. Obviously other villages could get involved, but it's unlikely due to the inactivity of some. Whoops... sweatdrop I was rambling on. If this needs to be discussed further, shoot me a PM. I don't want a reenactment of what just happened.

I'm just happy neutral grounds where found. smile


The person who gets it would be whoever applied for it and was accepted.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:57 pm


Gregar828
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Gregar828


I still feel somewhat responsible for the issue nonetheless. Sorry for the commotion. Let me know if anything becomes of Lance's post. I'll be happy to dig up more information on a logical execution of such a feat.

The only problem that still remains is that "insanity factor". Obviously the Nine-Tails is a beast of great power desired by all villages. The insanity factor would more then likely be "who the hell gets it!" That's really the only flaw to the entire set up. Obviously other villages could get involved, but it's unlikely due to the inactivity of some. Whoops... sweatdrop I was rambling on. If this needs to be discussed further, shoot me a PM. I don't want a reenactment of what just happened.

I'm just happy neutral grounds where found. smile


The person who gets it would be whoever applied for it and was accepted.


Right, but they would have to be from Konoha to get the Nine-Tails, but wouldn't turning it into a story arc be a lot more fun then having a gap between it's jiinjuriki? I'm not saying one shouldn't apply for it, but wouldn't working for it in the RP be a lot better then a mini-roleplay sample with no real plot from what's actually going on with-in the Roleplay? It's just something to think about. Besides, I think it would bring some activity to the guild. "Race for the Nine-Tails ACT (?)"
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:13 pm


Don't forget, currently only Yasashii has the capability of coming close to sealing the thing. I don't think we have any S rank sealers, and he is capable of using S rank seals.

Currently an arc for the ninetails wouldn't be productive, since not enough people are sealing masters.

Plus I don't think they've gotten around to updating the kyuubi.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:29 pm


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Currently an arc for the ninetails wouldn't be productive, since not enough people are sealing masters.


Saying that such a feat requires a set amount of Sealing Masters would be to say that you can't assassinate an enemy because they have no assassins.

Sealing requires one sealer. One this big would require a Sealer and several High Chakra Reserve Characters. It's not even jutsu for the others who help... It's hand signs that form into visible chakra. Similar when Naruto had to fight the three tails that broke out of the sealing jutsu that one sealer and 3 medical ninja where preforming.
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm


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Currently an arc for the ninetails wouldn't be productive, since not enough people are sealing masters.


Saying that such a feat requires a set amount of Sealing Masters would be to say that you can't assassinate an enemy because they have no assassins.

Sealing requires one sealer. One this big would require a Sealer and several High Chakra Reserve Characters. It's not even jutsu for the others who help... It's hand signs that form into visible chakra. Similar when Naruto had to fight the three tails that broke out of the sealing jutsu that one sealer and 3 medical ninja where preforming.

You're forgetting that you need a sealer than can create the seal. Which would be an S rank seal, and if memory serves, only Sealing masters can use S rank seals.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:22 pm


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Hey, is your RPC busy right now? And are you going to bed anytime soon? I'm trying to find a place to start with my new Kiri RPC~
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:23 pm


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Hey, is your RPC busy right now? And are you going to bed anytime soon? I'm trying to find a place to start with my new Kiri RPC~


We are running in the park. Me and Lance's character. I'll make a post now and you can just come in and train with us. I'm Sure Lance will pull another training vest out of his sleeve or something. >.<

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:33 pm


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iKaze Arashi
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Hey, is your RPC busy right now? And are you going to bed anytime soon? I'm trying to find a place to start with my new Kiri RPC~


We are running in the park. Me and Lance's character. I'll make a post now and you can just come in and train with us. I'm Sure Lance will pull another training vest out of his sleeve or something. >.<

Eh... Thank's but no thanks~ I was thinking more along the lines of an epic introduction post to have. But keep up the good training, alright? Maybe Gage and Kaze can have a battle some day?
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