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Eudes IV

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:48 am


Bilvy
Lol, yeah, it does look pretty complicated for beginners.
xp
It's probably overwhelming for them.
Ohh haha, and whne I said 'véhicule', I actually meant 'voiture'.
sweatdrop
The word just slipped outta my mind so I used véhicule instead for some reason.
Eh, you can always do some research on Wiki? I found this page on Wiki about the difference between Cajun French and the real French. It's kinda interesting.
Erm, and you can always start with "tabarnak" (sp? XD), if it's acceptable on this guild.

Haha it's ok xD
Tabernacle? God... That sounds like Québecois lol.
I don't know anything about Cajun sweatdrop But I think that if you're interested in Cajun, if my memories are good, EI knows some stuffs about it !


Piggelah

This. is. awesome. No, srsly. Ilu for this ~ <3
THE TENSES! THEY ARE CONFUSING! Dx [/random angst]


Haha thanks! And I guess they are ;] Especially if you're not used to have more than 5 tenses lol

Murderous Penguin of DOOM
Merci beaucoup, c'est bien. =]
Cette ete, j'allee au Canada pour un immersion programme, et je dois practice....

Well, clearly my French is horrible. I tried to say something like, I'm going to Canada this summer for a French immersion program and I have to practice. A lot, clearly. I'm making a mini notebook of different little terms like kitty and puppy, now. Would you want to PM in French to give me a little bit of practice? If yes, could you send me a PM? This goes to anyone who knows French or is just beginning like me. Sorry if I'm asking too much.

And sorry about my avatar; my friend and I were having a competition for the sluttiest avvie. I always feel like I have to apologize for it. ^^;;

Have a great day, and thanks for this little guide. It's an amazing summarizer that's really helpful to me.

heart Hilary

Ha no it's not! Some country fellows can't even spell as well lol ;]
The right sentence would be "Cet été je suis allée au Canada pour un programme d'immersion, et je dois pratiquer"

Well, you can PM me but I won't be much on internet before may because of my finals, but I promise I'll try to answer as often as possible lol !

And don't worry about the avi ;]


CreatorVonDark
Chic! Merci pour tout, mon vieux! 3nodding


Ben... De rien? :] Lol Actually it would rather be "ma vieille" for me ;]

diarrhea of the mouth
This is really cool.
I already knew a lot of this because I take French at school (that class is over though, so I'm out of it right now) but I need to practice.

Can you guys explain "ce que", "ce qui", and "donc" to me? I don't understand when you are supposed to use them. I know how to tell them apart but that's about it. Also, could you guys write about the conditonnnel tense (i.e. I would)? I always get that mixed up with imparfait and futur.



Ha... Well "donc" is like "so" , or "therefore" as said Avis... For example if you say "donc je vais faire ceci ou cela" it means "so I'm going to do this or that".

Well... About "ce qui" and "ce que", that's a tough question!

"Ce que" and "ce qui" both means "which" , but the difference is that :
- "ce qui" is the subject : for example, "il a dit que blablabla, ce qui signifie que blablabla" = " he said that blabla which means that blablabla"
- "ce que" is the COD (Complément d'Objet Direct / Direct complement object), for example : "Ils sont partis, ce que je ne veux pas croire" = "they are gone, which I don't want to believe" here "ce que" isn't the subject, it is "je"

Hope it's not too confused XD
Also, on a note, "ce que" can means "what" when it is used this way:
"Ce que voulait dire Y est que..." = " What means Y is that ...."

Ok... You can easily distinguish imparfait, futur and conditionnel : let's take an easy verb "aimer" (love)
- imparfait : You just keep the root, and add the imparfait (ais/ais/ait/ions/iez/aient)
j'aimais / tu aimais ... Nous aimions / Vous aimiez etc

- Futur : root + end depending on the person : erai/ erais/erait/erons/erez/eront .
You can easily notice that it's future because of the "er"
J'aimerai , tu aimeras, il aimera, nous aimerons, vous aimerez, ils aimeront

- Conditionnel can be tricky : you use the "er" that is typical of the future, and add the imparfait ends : which gives
J'aimerais , tu aimerais, il aimerait, nous aimerions, vous aimeriez, ils aimeraient

But watch out, cause people often tend to mix futur and conditionnel with "je" : the difference is only that there's a "s" in conditionnel : j'aimerai [futur] / j'aimerais [conditionnel]

And about how to use them :
- imparfait is used for description or long actions, it's a past form
- futur... Well it's futur ;] it's equivalent to the use of "will" in english
- conditionnel is equivalent to "would" or "could"
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:37 pm


Agathe, tu es retournée ! :]

I'm really angry because I just learned that for the past year, we haven't been using real passé composé since we haven't learned l'accord of verbs to direct objects until now! gonk Mais je sais maintenant. stare

Avis-yam


interior crocodile gator

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:20 pm


I don't know how to make accents on the computer. I'm just making a suggestion about this Nintendo DS game called "My French Coach." It teaches you the pronunciation, spelling, etc. of basic French and it'll give you a little boost if you're looking into or already taking French. I already know the days of the week, and the months, and some numbers.


Months=
Jevrier
Fevrier
Mars
Avril
Mai
Juin
Juilliet
Auot
Septembre
Octobre
Novembre
Decembre

Days=
Dimanche
Lundi
Mardi
Mercredi
Jeudi
Vedredi
Samedi

whee
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:46 pm


Boring Soap Opera
I don't know how to make accents on the computer. I'm just making a suggestion about this Nintendo DS game called "My French Coach." It teaches you the pronunciation, spelling, etc. of basic French and it'll give you a little boost if you're looking into or already taking French. I already know the days of the week, and the months, and some numbers.


Months=
Janvier
Février
Mars

Avril
Mars
Juin
Juillet
Août

Septembre
Octobre
Novembre
Décembre

Days=
Dimanche
Lundi
Mardi
Mercredi
Jeudi
Vendredi
Samedi

whee


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Corrections. smile Also, make sure in French they're not capitalised.

That game sounds interesting ! I'd like that. surprised

Avis-yam


419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:19 am


MonOstatos

Haha it's ok xD
Tabernacle? God... That sounds like Québecois lol.
I don't know anything about Cajun sweatdrop But I think that if you're interested in Cajun, if my memories are good, EI knows some stuffs about it !




It's because "Tabarnak" IS Québecois.
Here's an example of Québecois "Mon crisse de char est ********é!" (Char= Voiture) So in English it's quite vulgar. It means without using swearwords, "My darn car is broken!"

Tabarnak can be used the same way

Snipped from wikipedia
Mon ostie de saint-sacrament de câlice de crisse! Non-religious terms may also be strung together in this way, as in mon crisse de char est brisé, tabarnak de câlisse.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:25 pm


I got a book on French verbs out of the library and it's really helped me with the tenses so far. : D

In other news, I can now correctly pronounce and nearly always remember off of the top of my head...
Bonjour! Mon nom est Piggelah. Je suis Américain. Je comprenez et parle en peu l'français. (I think I spelled that all right...)
...after about 2.5 weeks of active study, give or take. Go me! : D

Piggelah


Eudes IV

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:50 am


Avis-yam
Agathe, tu es retournée ! :]

I'm really angry because I just learned that for the past year, we haven't been using real passé composé since we haven't learned l'accord of verbs to direct objects until now! gonk Mais je sais maintenant. stare

Haha X'D But then, what was it ?!



Piggelah
I got a book on French verbs out of the library and it's really helped me with the tenses so far. : D

In other news, I can now correctly pronounce and nearly always remember off of the top of my head...
Bonjour! Mon nom est Piggelah. Je suis Américain. Je comprenez et parle en peu l'français. (I think I spelled that all right...)
...after about 2.5 weeks of active study, give or take. Go me! : D



Lool are you learning so quickly that you already know slang? [" l'français "] ;D
Well, you're doing good!
Just two things, I think you're rather américainE than américain (or maybe you've got things to hide? ;] ), and it's "je comprends" (and vous comprenez!).
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:35 pm


Thanks this is very helpful, I'm currently learning French through some audio discs but this helps a lot when it comes to spelling what I'm saying xd

`K.i.T.


Eudes IV

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:23 am


`K.i.T.
Thanks this is very helpful, I'm currently learning French through some audio discs but this helps a lot when it comes to spelling what I'm saying xd


Indeed, that might be important to know how to spell words, especially since written french may... "look" different from spoken french XD
Anyways, if you have any suggestion about something I should do or change, please tell me!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:21 am


VII ) Conjugation


2 ) Conditional mode


a) Conditionnel présent



So I guess it was time to make a note on conditional tenses!


The conditional present is easy to learn as long as you know how to use futur [future] and imparfait [past] : it's a mix of these both tenses.

Conditional = radical of the future + end of the imparfait

Example : They would do : ils feraient
- the radical of the future form of "do" : ils feront
- + the end of the imparfait aient

= ils feraient

So, take a verb as croire [believe] :

Je croirais
Tu croirais
Il croirait
Nous croirions
Vous croiriez
Ils croiraient


N.B : It is very important to remember the "s" for the 1st person of the singular : if you forget this "s", it simply is a future : je ferai [I will do] =/= je ferais [I would do] !



b) Conditionnel passé



The conditionnel passé is the equivalent of "... would have" or "...would be".
In this case, you have : auxiliary [conditional] + verb [past participle]

Example : J'aurais [auxiliary] voulu [verb] = I would have wanted

Which would give :

J'aurais voulu
Tu aurais voulu
Elle aurait voulu
Nous aurions voulu
Vous auriez voulu
Ils auraient voulu

N.B : to know which auxiliary you should use, check this note

Eudes IV


snubsnub

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:19 am


Thanks a bunch for the lessons (: They're very useful !

Merci beaucoup !
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:56 pm


If I could suggest something?

Maybe you should introduce people to the irregular stems for the simple future and the conditional, since they are the same. And then explain the difference between the two.
I noticed that you were missing some stems of very common verbs (unless I overlooked this completely) such as savoir, recevoir, apercevoir, etc.

kaynick007


ThuckFat

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:18 am


Great lessons. There are a few new things and many things I forgot. There is one thing you could add though (unless it's not yet there and I totally missed it).

That's when the tenses should be used e.g.:
imperfait is used to describe an action in the past, that wasn't completed whereas passe compose is used to describe a completed action in the past.

*thumbs up* to you 4laugh
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