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Hi Cindi!! that's good........so i am assuming your daughter will not get the mmr vaccination......i've actually watched a special on dateline that they did, there was a guy that believed his son did get autism from that shot and he wanted to sue the governmet......i remember him saying his child was "normal" and then after the shot things started happening.......(i do believe this was on dateline, if not, it was 60 minutes) but it's definately something i've thought.....i know ben has downs, but i know i don't want to make it worse ........is there something else that your daughter could get in place of the mmr shot?

my son had one of those shots and it made him even worse than he was before gonk after the shot he slept for almost 3 days straight! i had to try to wake him just to feed him... now i think they should do more research on this.... if i would have known about all this i never would have let him get it. However in NY state(where i live) its illegal not to make your children get these vacinations which i think is total bulls%$t! They cant even go into playgroups or daycare or school unless they have everysingle shot...they make you turn in something from their doctor saying theyve had all their shots. Land of the free my @$$! scream sorry .....it just makes me angry gonk

i know its scary.. i think we should go back to the olen days when shots were evenly spaced and given seperately.. i think it was much safer 3nodding

Heres an interesting topic whats everyones views on circumcition(sp? =removal of foreskin shortly after birth) Some doctors do this without and anethetics(sp) or pain relievers which i think is barbaric... what do you all think?

There is no link to the vaccines themselves and autism. Period. What causes autism is the mercury that was used to line the bottles of the MMR vaccine. But the US no longer uses suppliers that coat bottles with mercury. You are talking about old scientific data.

"Current scientific evidence does not support the hypothesis that measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, or any combination of vaccines, causes the development of autism, including regressive forms of autism. The question about a possible link between MMR vaccine and autism has been extensively reviewed by independent groups of experts in the U.S. including the National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine. These reviews have concluded that the available epidemiologic evidence does not support a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism.

Here is a list of the studies
Epidemiologic studies have shown no relationship between MMR vaccination in children and development of autism:

In 1997, the National Childhood Encephalopathy Study (NCES) was examined to see if there was any link between measles vaccine and neurological events. The researchers found no indication that measles vaccine contributes to the development of long-term neurological damage, including educational and behavioral deficits (Miller et al., 1997).

A study by Gillberg and Heijbel (199 cool examined the prevalence of autism in children born in Sweden from 1975-1984. There was no difference in the prevalence of autism among children born before the introduction of the MMR vaccine in Sweden and those born after the vaccine was introduced.

In 1999, the British Committee on Safety of Medicines convened a "Working Party on MMR Vaccine" to conduct a systematic review of reports of autism, gastrointestinal disease, and similar disorders after receipt of MMR or measles/rubella vaccine. It was concluded that the available information did not support the posited associations between MMR and autism and other disorders.

Taylor and colleagues (1999) studied 498 children with autism in the UK and found the age at which they were diagnosed was the same regardless of whether they received the MMR vaccine before or after 18 months of age or whether they were never vaccinated. Importantly, the first signs or diagnoses of autism were not more likely to occur within time periods following MMR vaccination than during other time periods. Also, there was no sudden increase in cases of autism after the introduction of MMR vaccine in the UK. Such a jump would have been expected if MMR vaccine was causing a substantial increase in autism.

Kaye and colleagues (2001) assessed the relationship between the risk of autism among children in the UK and MMR vaccine. Among a subgroup of boys aged 2-5 years, the risk of autism increased almost 4 fold from 1988 to 1993, while MMR vaccination coverage remained constant at approximately 95% over these same years.

Researchers in the U.S. found that among children born between 1980 and 1994 and enrolled in California kindergartens, there was a 373% relative increase in autism cases, though the relative increase in MMR vaccine coverage by the age of 24 months was only 14% (Dales et al., 2001). For more on this study, see California Data on Theory of Autism and MMR Immunization.

Researchers in the UK (Frombonne & Chakrabarti, 2001) conducted a study to test the idea that a new form, or "new variant," of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) exists. This new variant IBD has been described as a combination of developmental regression and gastrointestinal symptoms occurring shortly after MMR immunization. Information on 96 children (95 immunized with MMR) who were born between 1992 and 1995 and were diagnosed with pervasive developmental disorder were compared with data from 2 groups of autistic patients (one group of 98 born before MMR was ever used and one group of 68 who were likely to have received MMR vaccine). No evidence was found to support a new syndrome of MMR-induced IBD/autism. For instance, the researchers found that there were no differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups with regard to when their parents first became concerned about their child’s development. Similarly, the rate of developmental regression reported in the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups was not different; therefore, there was no suggestion that developmental regression had increased in frequency since MMR was introduced. Of the 96 children in the first group, no inflammatory bowel disorder was reported. Furthermore, there was no association found between developmental regression and gastrointestinal symptoms.

Another group of researchers in the UK (Taylor et al., 2002) also examined whether MMR vaccination is associated with bowel problems and developmental regression in children with autism, looking for evidence of a "new variant" form of IBD/autism. The study included 278 cases of children with autism and 195 with atypical autism (cases with many of the features of childhood autism but not quite meeting the required criteria for that diagnosis, or with atypical features such as onset of symptoms after the age of 3 years). The cases included in this study were born between 1979 and 1998. The proportion of children with developmental regression or bowel symptoms did not change significantly from 1979 to 1988, a period which included the introduction of MMR vaccination in the UK in 1988. No significant difference was found in rates of bowel problems or regression in children who received the MMR vaccine before their parents became concerned about their development, compared with those who received it only after such concern and those who had not received the MMR vaccine. The findings provide no support for an MMR associated "new variant" form of autism and further evidence against involvement of MMR vaccine in autism.

Madsen et al. (2002) conducted a study of all children born in Denmark from January 1991 through December 1998. There were a total of 537,303 children in the study; 440,655 of the children were vaccinated with MMR and 96,648 were not. The researchers did not find a higher risk of autism in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated group of children. Furthermore, there was no association between the age at time of vaccination, the amount of time that had passed since vaccination, or the date of vaccination and the development of any autistic disorder. Though there were many more vaccinated than unvaccinated children in the study group, the sample was large enough to contain more statistical power than other MMR and autism studies. Therefore, this study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR vaccination causes autism.
DeStefano et al. (2004) conducted a study to see if there was a difference in the age at which children with autism and without autism received their first MMR vaccination. The study's findings showed that children with autism received their first MMR vaccination at similar ages as children without autism.



I hate non vaccinators because they are essentially putting my child at risk. Say my daughter is on a sports team later. Well if she ends up going to Vachon Island (Where TONS of parents are not getting their children vaccinated) she could get something. I think it's disgusting that these non-vaccinators would put their own children at risk let alone mine.

Unless you ACTUALLY have religious problems with vaccination GET your KIDS VACCINATED!

wow nopenname, you definately did some research, thank you for contributing....i definately forgot about the mercury thing.......that they talked about.......i'll have to do some research myself..once agian thank you.......

Well, I too wondered about all this stuff about Autism and MMR vaccinations when Lissa was still in utero, the scientific research I've found clearly shows that there is no link.