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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:54 pm
Well, I'm not the one that started the conversation. I believe it was you who first introduced the idea. It seems right that you or JoVo should start the topic as you know exactly what it is you want to discuss.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:04 pm
What are you talking about? I don't know what to discuss! JoVo basically took a shotgun to my head and shot me on the last thing I was trying to prove. (Doesn't he do that with everything?)
[Not that it's bad. It's just that JoVo's more educated than everyone else. Or he'd good at convincing. It seems it's a micture of the two with more emphasis on the latter, given the way he writes.]
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:08 pm
I'd have to say he's highly educated in very random topics, a very convincing speaker, has a large vocabulary, and has the ability to charm whoever he's shooting down.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:48 pm
I am mistaken: 1. nios 1. agreeing/aknowledging something. 2. a greeting. 3. describing something - add ly 4. used in conjunction with murr 5. can be added to the end of a word to give it greater meaning 1. going to the movies tonight? nios 2. dude! nios! 3. we did it niosly 4. lets murr niosly 5. that s**t is phatinios Source: Baer, Sep 21, 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:35 am
Nios I'd have to say he's highly educated in very random topics, a very convincing speaker, has a large vocabulary, and has the ability to charm whoever he's shooting down. redface heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:03 am
Do you read every single post? xp
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:23 am
Nios Do you read every single post? xp I really do. I'm a good crew. whee
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:09 am
Astri JoVo Bisexuals and pansexuals, for the most part, comprise the same groups of people. The former word is just more common, and the latter more correct.Well, there's a least one more thing (which I think is worth noting). Those people who identify as pansexual are pretty much gaurunteed to be comfortable with concepts such as transexuality, intersexuality, and etc (and to be willing to allow themselves to be attracted to the people those concepts pertain to). With those who identify as bisexual, there is no such gauruntee. heh... sadly enough, that pertains to myself. I could not imagine myself with someone that sits in the middle. Where they want to be one, or are one, but supposed to be the other. It kinda of ... I dunno, it's such a foreign idea, that you could have someone that looks like a man, but is physically a woman, or vica versa... It would just scare me to find that out after I start something,
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:17 am
Montigo Dominic It would just scare me to find that out after I start something Hopefully they'd tell you beforehand. xp I generally don't talk about my genderqueeredness for this very reason. It's all too confusing and just tends to turn people off. Since I'm not in the market for a life partner at the moment, I don't feel its a necessary part of my acknowledgements.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:22 am
There is always that instance where they want you to love them before they break it to you though. Everyone has their secrets that they don't want to tell people until they are together, and in a loving relationship.
I mean, I'll even say it... My secret, is I'm really not interested in sex from a relationship right now. I'm more likely the one to say no.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:25 am
Montigo Dominic I'm more likely the one to say no. gonk Actually, that can be refreshing for a gay guy to hear. Not that I wouldn't do it on the first date. Just that it'd be nice not to. I met a guy like that recently. I'm hoping I get a second date. That sort is gold, especially if he happens to be hot, which Mark is. heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:34 am
Ya, for that first day, I chose not to attempt to even kiss orry, though it was on his mind xp I mean, ya, it had crossed my mind, but I decided it best to take things slow, I'm just dissappointed that it won't likely go anywhere yet. We really did click, I know we did...
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:08 pm
Yeah I expect a lot of awkwardness in future relationships.... this one is awkward enough...
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:22 pm
Oh, how I've missed this guild! If only I had internet at home and the time to spend on gaia. I am so in need of conversations like this. Anyway, I just wanted to put in my two cents on the topic, as a pansexual genderqueer, though you've all done a great job of explaining.
I identified with bisexuality until about a year or so ago, which is when I started to use the term pansexual for myself. Most people understand bisexual to mean having attractions to men and women. However, pansexuality encompasses attraction to other gender identities, such as genderqueers like myself. This is not to say that bisexuals don't have attractions to alternate genders from man and woman, but pansexuality is a term that acknowledges that there are more than two genders to love.
I myself am open to the possibility of falling in love with any person, regardless of what gender they identify with. I have my preferences, but I don't discriminate partners based on gender.
I also don't descriminate based on sex, either, especially since there is no way I can claim to have knowledge of one's physical sex. I don't even know HOW to determine someone's sex. Is it in combinations of x and y chromosomes? Is it in genitalia? How many combinations are there, anyway? By the way, none of that matters to me anyway. I don't care about someone's chromosomes or genitalia - in a relationship it's all about the personality of the person I'm with.
And as for pleasuring one another - this can be done in such a wide variety of ways, why should I limit it to any particular combination(s) of body part stimulation? I think it's better to leave my options open to new and different experiences, because I never know what will be stimulating until I've tried it (or perhaps thought about it).
Anyway, I've gotten off track and I don't think I've added anything significant to the topic. I hope to have internet at home soon so I can get into more of these conversations, but until then, I <3 you all!
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:15 am
[Q] But it will just derail like this one did, and then more threads will be created to suit Vague's fancy which will derail and lead to more threads... And as the creator of this thread, I'd rather have it derailed then 50 new threads made from derailed threads. =p Maybe we should change the name of this thread. "ED Lite" or something. Montigo Dominic Where they want to be one, or are one, but supposed to be the other. It kinda of ... I dunno, it's such a foreign idea, that you could have someone that looks like a man, but is physically a woman, or vica versa... It would just scare me to find that out after I start something, I dated a hairdresser who was a drag queen with trans leanings. He was a gorgeous woman, but she always got pissed off because I wasn't attracted to her when she was all made up. I complemented her plenty, but she wanted me to be turned on. JoVo Hopefully they'd tell you beforehand. xp I generally don't talk about my genderqueeredness for this very reason. It's all too confusing and just tends to turn people off. Since I'm not in the market for a life partner at the moment, I don't feel its a necessary part of my acknowledgements. So, hopefully the people he deals with will be more honest and forthcoming than you? stare Besides, last I heard you were a FtM trans, and since you have a p***s, and want a p***s, it's less likely to drive people away, whether they understand it or not. I agree about it not being necessary, but my father seems to think I need a boyfriend and it's getting quite irritating. He hasn't tried to set me up, but if he knew any gay boys my age in the city I'm sure he would. JoVo Montigo Dominic I'm more likely the one to say no. gonk Actually, that can be refreshing for a gay guy to hear. Not that I wouldn't do it on the first date. Just that it'd be nice not to. I met a guy like that recently. I'm hoping I get a second date. That sort is gold, especially if he happens to be hot, which Mark is. heart I thought you said he was cute but not interesting? Or interested? Same difference... to quote Harvey Danger "if you're bored then you're boring", I definitely apply this to guys. First dates. *sigh* I had a lovely one recently even though he was a little sick (though I felt a little gypped that I got sick and was sick through pride even though we never kissed sad ). but then some nasty s**t happened and he made me sad and I posted in my journal and we've been out of touch. I should approach him again, I guess...
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