Welcome to Gaia! ::

The Japanese Student Guild

Back to Guilds

The place to learn about Japan and all facets of Japanese culture 

Tags: Japanese, Student, Guild 

Reply Japanese Popculture
Tell me the do's and don'ts please Goto Page: [] [<] 1 2 3 ... 4 5 6 7 [>] [»|]

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

IdiotbyDefault
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:04 am


keviprincess246
Hey, my question is, what do they have against bigger people? is it true that they think all Americans are fat? like, if a plus sized model went to Tokyo, would she be insulted a lot? sorry, but this is really intriguing.


I don't think she would be insulted much at all unless the people she was hanging with found some other beef about her. As someone once mentioned (and I'd hate to confirm it, but...) if someone doesn't like you in Japan, it's likely that they will not be assertive and say it in your face, but behind your back. It's just a way of social conduct that is less direct. When people might refer to her as "big" (especially if there are two foreigners that have the same name, but have visible differences), then as a language, you would be described when being talked about to separate you from the other person with the same name. I've seen it done anyway. But, other than that, I don't think someone would be insulted like that like they would in a more direct, in your face culture like America.

Most countries I think probably think the average American is fat or heavy-set. I was sure an exception, but it is basically whatever our culture (aka music, dramas, sitcoms, movies) portrays us as will get the most attention from other people in other countries. Much in a way some people here think that Japan is exactly like what it is in Anime and school girls and catgirls run amok in the streets, which is so not true at all. It's what our products of our countries determines what others outside our own culture think of us.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:07 am


ok....I´m going to Japan this August and my main problem is...my host family

- what would be a good gift? Does every memeber of the family requires a gift, and if there are children would toys be ok? (I thought about a cuddle toy from "Die Maus" which is a famous tv programm here and also know in Japan....somehow)

- what I´m going to do with the children? stupid question I know...but I mean er...something like the first meeting

- who is greeted first? the hostfather or mother? or doesn´t this matter at all?

I really want to make a good impression and I don´t want to be rude, since I will stay 3 months...

also what should be taken to Japan? I mean from technical devices or clothing or whatever...is there something I should totally bring along from my homeland?

rumi-hinata


Koiyuki
Vice Captain

Mind-boggling Codger

1,500 Points
  • Signature Look 250
  • Dressed Up 200
  • Bunny Spotter 50
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:43 am


rumi-hinata
ok....I´m going to Japan this August and my main problem is...my host family

- what would be a good gift? Does every memeber of the family requires a gift, and if there are children would toys be ok? (I thought about a cuddle toy from "Die Maus" which is a famous tv programm here and also know in Japan....somehow)


    arrow Take something from home that isn't easily found in Japan

    arrow Take lots of things to give over the course of your stay

    arrow Wrap it good(if available ask someone in store to wrap it for you). If you wrap it yourself, use pastel colors and no bow. Subtlety is key in many activities in Japan, including gift giving

    arrow If you wrap it fancy, keep it in a shopping bag until you give it(to not embarrass yourself or them before the gift is even given)

    arrow Give it at the end of your time there. End. This is important if you don't want to be involved in the back and forth of being shamed by not giving anything part of gift giving in Japan.

    arrow If it's for one person, keep it private. If it's for a group, have the group around when the time comes. If you do get involved, do try to reciprocate

    arrow Use both hands to present it

    arrow Talk down the gift. In that you show your relationship holds more priority than the gift you're giving them

    arrow Don't give older and younger people the same thing

    arrow Do not, I repeat, DO NOT GIVE ANYTHING IN MULTIPLES OF 4S OR 9S. Those numbers have very negative associations in Japan, like the number 13 has here(especially 4, which can be a homonym of the word for death)


rumi-hinata
- what I´m going to do with the children? stupid question I know...but I mean er...something like the first meeting


Treat them as you would children of your own country: with politeness and kindness.

rumi-hinata
- who is greeted first? the hostfather or mother? or doesn´t this matter at all?

If you're talking about the order of rank, it's father, then mother.

rumi-hinata
I really want to make a good impression and I don´t want to be rude, since I will stay 3 months...

also what should be taken to Japan? I mean from technical devices or clothing or whatever...is there something I should totally bring along from my homeland?


Again, bring things that can't be found easily in Japan or would be expensive to get in their country(like Abercrombie and Fitch. Seriously, it's hideously expensive to get over there)
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:13 am


Koiyuki

arrow Give it at the end of your time there. End. This is important if you don't want to be involved in the back and forth of being shamed by not giving anything part of gift giving in Japan.


Thank you for all the tips ^^

about giving a gift at the end, I always thought you´d give it at the beginning? I know you kind of explained it why, but I´m not sure I understood it in the right way...

Would food generally be better than clothing/toys ect.(also something I heard)?

rumi-hinata


Koiyuki
Vice Captain

Mind-boggling Codger

1,500 Points
  • Signature Look 250
  • Dressed Up 200
  • Bunny Spotter 50
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:22 am


rumi-hinata
Koiyuki

arrow Give it at the end of your time there. End. This is important if you don't want to be involved in the back and forth of being shamed by not giving anything part of gift giving in Japan.


Thank you for all the tips ^^

about giving a gift at the end, I always thought you´d give it at the beginning? I know you kind of explained it why, but I´m not sure I understood it in the right way...

Would food generally be better than clothing/toys ect.(also something I heard)?

Hmm, save bigger, more lavish gifts for the last legs of your stay. And it depends on the food. If it's some common chocolate then maybe not, but if's a kind of food that is typically only found or is a strong suit of your country I would think they'd be appreciative, especially since one part of the Japanese culture is the INTENSE love and appreciation they have for food, from where and how it's caught to how it's cooked and presented.

If you're looking for nonperishables, clothes are the way to go
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:15 am


Koiyuki

Hmm, save bigger, more lavish gifts for the last legs of your stay. And it depends on the food. If it's some common chocolate then maybe not, but if's a kind of food that is typically only found or is a strong suit of your country I would think they'd be appreciative, especially since one part of the Japanese culture is the INTENSE love and appreciation they have for food, from where and how it's caught to how it's cooked and presented.

If you're looking for nonperishables, clothes are the way to go


Ah, now I understand ^^ thanks again!

So I guess for the first meeting some expensive chocolate or something like this and at the end....something....bigger *sigh* thank god I have time till august to think about something...

^^ I will tell how it went *g*

rumi-hinata


Terix_FM

2,850 Points
  • Conversationalist 100
  • Forum Sophomore 300
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:32 pm


gonk omg this forum was so helpful! so im secretly bumping this in hopes that it wont die.

im supposed to be going there to study abroad so is there anything i should know about how to talk to teachers and fellow students before i go?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:21 pm


Terix_aptor
gonk omg this forum was so helpful! so im secretly bumping this in hopes that it wont die.

im supposed to be going there to study abroad so is there anything i should know about how to talk to teachers and fellow students before i go?


Generally with students you're formal when you first meet, then grow more informal as you become more buddy buddy with 'em. With teachers you're always polite. Always. No exceptions

Koiyuki
Vice Captain

Mind-boggling Codger

1,500 Points
  • Signature Look 250
  • Dressed Up 200
  • Bunny Spotter 50

Ose_93

Dedicated Friend

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:27 pm


If you feel the need to bow at any time to a person in a shop or whatever, don't go to low. Since they are serving you, they need to go lower than you did.

Eat all your food.

Do not say "bless you" or anything of the sort when someone sneezes, it's rude.
I wasn't aware of that, my friend told me it was rude to point out someone had sneezed, sorry
sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:16 am


IdiotbyDefault
Foxkilth
Dylan of Argentina
I've heard that you should eat everything on your plate and that you should slurp some foods, like noodles.


NO! Don't eat all of your food. Unless I am thinking if the wrong thing, when you eat all of you food it makes it seem like you are poor. And from what I know, you don't want to look poor. You leave some food off to the side of your plate and you don't eat it even if you really are poor and starving.


I hope you're being sarcastic, lol. rofl Generally, I found that you should eat what your given to the best of your ability, meaning eat as much as possible of what's given to you. Some apartments and houses don't have real decent garbage disposals (or none at all, including my own, which I truly miss having one), so I guess it kind of forces you to eat as much as possible because dealing with stinky food and waiting for the day when food garbage gets picked up gets bad. So, it practicality, eating most or all the food you're given is okay.

Japanese know that since you're a foreigner that the rules regarding certain customs are likely to be broken, and they will be more than happy to correct your or teach you customs. I don't think Japanese would get upset/annoyed if you're trying to learn their customs and use them intently, because I feel that shows that one pays close attention to another's culture and you can't always be perfect the first time, especially if you don't know the customs in the first place.


My thoughts on the whole "Is it okay to eat all your food, or is it looked down upon" question that is asked a lot and a snippet on foreigners and following customs.

Also, saying お大事に after you sneeze is considered okay. It is the closest translation of gesundheit that is used. You would also use the phrase to wish someone you know to get better.

IdiotbyDefault
Crew


Chocolate Willy

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:30 pm


There were many comments posted that needed to be corrected.
I am half Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 8 years, so I know a lot about the culture.


Shukumei Kiyoshi
In a restaurant, you can say 'Itadakimasu' [I recieve./ Let's eat.] before eating, and 'Gochisousama deshita' [It was a feast.] (shows appreciation for the food) after you're finished. It's considered being polite.

'Arigatou' is another useful phrase ^^
Sometimes, so is 'Toire wa doko desu ka?' XD; [Where is the toilet?]

Um, also, if you get on the subway, don't turn your back to the person who's sitting
(if you're standing). It's rude and can be taken for an insult. sweatdrop


Being Japanese, I find the first part wrong.
You would never say those things in a restaurant lol...shows you're a foreigner. You will only use them at your house, someone elses house, or if you're friendly with someone working in the restaurant.
In restaurants, you may sometimes say 'Itadakimasu' , but Japanese people usually never say 'gochisousama deshita'

** Don't say 'gochisousama deshita' shorten it to 'gochisousama' because most people in Japan will use 'gochisousama' **


It's almost like saying grace at a restaurant over here....normally you won't .... unless your family is very religious...and even then you won't....


And the second part about the train.... use common sense.
Would you ever turn your back to someone sitting on a train anywhere???
NO, only people who haven't been on a train would do such a thing...and even then it's not normal...


Hagumi Morita
Yes, Japanese are racist. However, they will not make it obvious, so don't worry. If anything, they'll be really helpful in hopes you tip very well.


This comment really hurts....
Japanese are not racist... some old people just tend to avoid foreigners.
The younger generation will usually love to hang out and talk with you.
And it also shows you never went to Japan because you don't tip....

**Don't say stuff if you have no clue...**

[Romiette]
Some things that come to my mind are:

Do make quiet slurping sounds when you drink something (it shows how much you're enjoying it)
Do fill your dining companion(s)' drinks instead of your own (they fill yours)
Do leave your glass full if you are done


Ok, all of these are wrong....

Do not make a slurping sound when drinking rofl....
Only do this when eating noodles and drinking miso soup...

Only fill your dining companion's drink when it is alcohol.
Every other drink doesn't really matter.
And usually this concept is used for business purposes and for older people.
Young people usually won't do it, so don't do it when you're around young people.

The last comment about leaving the glass full is rubbish. It doesn't matter if you drink it all or leave. If you don't want anymore, and the waiter/waitress tries to pour, just tell them not to pour anymore.

Naztakuan
Be polite. Always bow and address superiors by either -san, -kun, or -sama. Japan is very hierarchical.

Rice is really good plan but I did sometimes put stuff on it. It isn't that big a deal. The cafeteria ladies regularly made mixed rice dishes so I think that's a matter of preference, like Americans who eat ketchup on their eggs.


Never call your superios by kun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIG MISTAKE
kun is for a little boy, or some one who works below you, or a woman that is younger than you.....

Also, don't use sama.... it makes the person feel like royalty.
Should only be used when you are working for a store and you are calling out someone's name on the intercom(microphone) ...
(this one is complicated)

Always use -san when you're in doubt.

Rice should never be mixed with:
soy sauce
sweets
soup
sauces

Rice can be mixed with/when:
when it's a donburi (rice with different toppings on it, but never actually mix the whole thing into a mess)
natou
daikon oroshi
furikake
(there are more out there, but these are the basics)

**Most of the time don't try to mix or put stuff on rice.**

Kuuryuro

With sticking your chopsticks straight up in your rice...that's not really the rude part (though it is odd). The rude part comes in when you eat the rice that you just offered to the dead (Like stomping on grave-flowers, I suppose = =??).
The American "okay" sign - with which your pointing finger touches your thumb and your other fingers are extended - means "money" in Japan. Its the equivalent of rubbing your thumb across your fingerpads in the American "pay up/money" gesture. On that note, "Thumbs up" signs are just dandy though^_~ and the "come over here" gesture is upsidedown. Cupping your dominant hand the same side of your mouth means you're telling a secret (same as U.S.), in the middle means "sorry", and to the opposite side means you're implying that someone is homosexual (use that one wisely).
Don't whistle at night.


The gesture of actually sticking the chopsticks into rice at an eating place is rude. It's not the eating of the rice that's rude.
You wouldn't try to start praying for the dead at the table...

The ok sign thing is not true. You can use it in Japan. Many Japanese people use it.

But if you don't believe me, just don't use it at all.

The cupping of the hand is actually right and wrong. There are more body gestures involved to actually have those meanings. These are very hard to explain.

Asking one person if another person is homosexual:
using the dominant hand, put hand next to the opposite cheek and then arc your hand. Kind of like a C, kind of like bending your fingers toward your arm (this is basically the opposite of a fist).

Also, there needs to be something said during this action. You have to tell whomever you're talking to "kore?" And when saying this, point out the person you're talking about with your eyes.

Saying sorry:
This version of saying sorry is not used very often.

Make your dominant hand flat/straight (no curves).
Put it about 6. in. away from your mouth and line it up vertically with the middle of the mouth.
Then you also need to bow (not a full one, a quarter one)up and then come straight back up quickly.
Do this several times.
You can say sorry at the same time if the person is close, but if the person is far or if you're in a crowded place, no words need to be said.


IdiotbyDefault



Houses and Bath: Chances are you'll know if the tub is already full of hot water. You wash yourself and such outside the tub. The showerhead usually is long enough for such purpose. This is also why many Japanese bathrooms that have baths have a drain in the floor. After you are washed and rinsed off, you can enter the tub. The same etiquette kind of applies to an Onsen (hot spring) or sentou (public bath).


Ok, you can use the shower, or you can also use the bath water. There are usually bowl looking things next to the bath. This is to scoop up water from the bath. But don't do this technique at an onsen or sentou.


I'm not trying to destroy you, Yes, Japanese culture may be hard. I'm only trying to correct things so people won't feel like a total idiot foreigner...rofl

I can speak Japanese with anyone if they like. I am also looking for students if you're interested.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:50 pm


522rka
There were many comments posted that needed to be corrected.
I am half Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 8 years, so I know a lot about the culture.
IdiotbyDefault



Houses and Bath: Chances are you'll know if the tub is already full of hot water. You wash yourself and such outside the tub. The showerhead usually is long enough for such purpose. This is also why many Japanese bathrooms that have baths have a drain in the floor. After you are washed and rinsed off, you can enter the tub. The same etiquette kind of applies to an Onsen (hot spring) or sentou (public bath).


Ok, you can use the shower, or you can also use the bath water. There are usually bowl looking things next to the bath. This is to scoop up water from the bath. But don't do this technique at an onsen or sentou.


I'm not trying to destroy you, Yes, Japanese culture may be hard. I'm only trying to correct things so people won't feel like a total idiot foreigner...rofl

I can speak Japanese with anyone if they like. I am also looking for students if you're interested.


Lol, good points to add to my post because I didn't put a lot more than needed. I was confused for the longest time why I had two latches (or handles) on my wall for the showerhead when I realized I could take either a shower or traditional bath if I wanted to (and due to me being rush rush rushing out the door, I took a lot more showers than baths. XD). I always thought it would be cool to have a Japanese style bathroom in the sense the the walls are lined with a type of plastic-esque material that makes it simple to wash and you don't have to worry about water leaking from the floor to another part of a two-story house (I can only assume xD).

IdiotbyDefault
Crew


roku-kun1

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:48 pm


522rka
There were many comments posted that needed to be corrected.
I am half Japanese, and I lived in Japan for 8 years, so I know a lot about the culture.


Shukumei Kiyoshi
In a restaurant, you can say 'Itadakimasu' [I recieve./ Let's eat.] before eating, and 'Gochisousama deshita' [It was a feast.] (shows appreciation for the food) after you're finished. It's considered being polite.

'Arigatou' is another useful phrase ^^
Sometimes, so is 'Toire wa doko desu ka?' XD; [Where is the toilet?]

Um, also, if you get on the subway, don't turn your back to the person who's sitting
(if you're standing). It's rude and can be taken for an insult. sweatdrop


Being Japanese, I find the first part wrong.
You would never say those things in a restaurant lol...shows you're a foreigner. You will only use them at your house, someone elses house, or if you're friendly with someone working in the restaurant.
In restaurants, you may sometimes say 'Itadakimasu' , but Japanese people usually never say 'gochisousama deshita'

** Don't say 'gochisousama deshita' shorten it to 'gochisousama' because most people in Japan will use 'gochisousama' **


It's almost like saying grace at a restaurant over here....normally you won't .... unless your family is very religious...and even then you won't....


And the second part about the train.... use common sense.
Would you ever turn your back to someone sitting on a train anywhere???
NO, only people who haven't been on a train would do such a thing...and even then it's not normal...


Hagumi Morita
Yes, Japanese are racist. However, they will not make it obvious, so don't worry. If anything, they'll be really helpful in hopes you tip very well.


This comment really hurts....
Japanese are not racist... some old people just tend to avoid foreigners.
The younger generation will usually love to hang out and talk with you.
And it also shows you never went to Japan because you don't tip....

**Don't say stuff if you have no clue...**

[Romiette]
Some things that come to my mind are:

Do make quiet slurping sounds when you drink something (it shows how much you're enjoying it)
Do fill your dining companion(s)' drinks instead of your own (they fill yours)
Do leave your glass full if you are done


Ok, all of these are wrong....

Do not make a slurping sound when drinking rofl....
Only do this when eating noodles and drinking miso soup...

Only fill your dining companion's drink when it is alcohol.
Every other drink doesn't really matter.
And usually this concept is used for business purposes and for older people.
Young people usually won't do it, so don't do it when you're around young people.

The last comment about leaving the glass full is rubbish. It doesn't matter if you drink it all or leave. If you don't want anymore, and the waiter/waitress tries to pour, just tell them not to pour anymore.

Naztakuan
Be polite. Always bow and address superiors by either -san, -kun, or -sama. Japan is very hierarchical.

Rice is really good plan but I did sometimes put stuff on it. It isn't that big a deal. The cafeteria ladies regularly made mixed rice dishes so I think that's a matter of preference, like Americans who eat ketchup on their eggs.


Never call your superios by kun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIG MISTAKE
kun is for a little boy, or some one who works below you, or a woman that is younger than you.....

Also, don't use sama.... it makes the person feel like royalty.
Should only be used when you are working for a store and you are calling out someone's name on the intercom(microphone) ...
(this one is complicated)

Always use -san when you're in doubt.

Rice should never be mixed with:
soy sauce
sweets
soup
sauces

Rice can be mixed with/when:
when it's a donburi (rice with different toppings on it, but never actually mix the whole thing into a mess)
natou
daikon oroshi
furikake
(there are more out there, but these are the basics)

**Most of the time don't try to mix or put stuff on rice.**

Kuuryuro

With sticking your chopsticks straight up in your rice...that's not really the rude part (though it is odd). The rude part comes in when you eat the rice that you just offered to the dead (Like stomping on grave-flowers, I suppose = =??).
The American "okay" sign - with which your pointing finger touches your thumb and your other fingers are extended - means "money" in Japan. Its the equivalent of rubbing your thumb across your fingerpads in the American "pay up/money" gesture. On that note, "Thumbs up" signs are just dandy though^_~ and the "come over here" gesture is upsidedown. Cupping your dominant hand the same side of your mouth means you're telling a secret (same as U.S.), in the middle means "sorry", and to the opposite side means you're implying that someone is homosexual (use that one wisely).
Don't whistle at night.


The gesture of actually sticking the chopsticks into rice at an eating place is rude. It's not the eating of the rice that's rude.
You wouldn't try to start praying for the dead at the table...

The ok sign thing is not true. You can use it in Japan. Many Japanese people use it.

But if you don't believe me, just don't use it at all.

The cupping of the hand is actually right and wrong. There are more body gestures involved to actually have those meanings. These are very hard to explain.

Asking one person if another person is homosexual:
using the dominant hand, put hand next to the opposite cheek and then arc your hand. Kind of like a C, kind of like bending your fingers toward your arm (this is basically the opposite of a fist).

Also, there needs to be something said during this action. You have to tell whomever you're talking to "kore?" And when saying this, point out the person you're talking about with your eyes.

Saying sorry:
This version of saying sorry is not used very often.

Make your dominant hand flat/straight (no curves).
Put it about 6. in. away from your mouth and line it up vertically with the middle of the mouth.
Then you also need to bow (not a full one, a quarter one)up and then come straight back up quickly.
Do this several times.
You can say sorry at the same time if the person is close, but if the person is far or if you're in a crowded place, no words need to be said.


IdiotbyDefault



Houses and Bath: Chances are you'll know if the tub is already full of hot water. You wash yourself and such outside the tub. The showerhead usually is long enough for such purpose. This is also why many Japanese bathrooms that have baths have a drain in the floor. After you are washed and rinsed off, you can enter the tub. The same etiquette kind of applies to an Onsen (hot spring) or sentou (public bath).


Ok, you can use the shower, or you can also use the bath water. There are usually bowl looking things next to the bath. This is to scoop up water from the bath. But don't do this technique at an onsen or sentou.


I'm not trying to destroy you, Yes, Japanese culture may be hard. I'm only trying to correct things so people won't feel like a total idiot foreigner...rofl

I can speak Japanese with anyone if they like. I am also looking for students if you're interested.


wait!!! i don't get the homosexual thing. explain that one more time.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:15 pm


roku-kun1

wait!!! i don't get the homosexual thing. explain that one more time.


I suggest looking it up online, you'll find a video or illustration. Better than getting it wrong later, how embarrassing...

Tougenkyou


inukiba32

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:56 pm


Quote:

I can speak Japanese with anyone if they like. I am also looking for students if you're interested.
i n=know alittle japanese but im looking for someone to help me with it
Reply
Japanese Popculture

Goto Page: [] [<] 1 2 3 ... 4 5 6 7 [>] [»|]
 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
Play with GCash
Play with Platinum