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Jafthasleftthebuilding Vice Captain
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 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:09 pm
Sanzoskitsune .... we HAVE been saying that, just in a different way. I have said time and again that taking meat out of a diet is a choice these people make. Xikrai's was better. Lol.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:10 pm
Ascott Yes, but as omnivores we should really eat everything in order to get our ideal diet, surely? Actually, we really don't have to do ANYTHING specific with our diets... Omnivores eat what they come by, or what they need at that moment. (i.e, bear needs protein, bear eats fish). Since we're intelligent enough to get whatever kind of food we need or want, we can just as easily eat beans as cows. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:10 pm
Slim95 Ascott Celestial Burden Indigo Project I am beginning to think that this thread exists less for the purpose of discussing the reasons for/benefits of being a vegitarian, and more to bag on people who have already made that choice. stare Well, some of us are trying to explain why, but it doesn't seem to be gettting through. For the record, I believe in a little thing called CREATION. Have you ever heard of belief in what your religion teaches, Ascott? Yes, we have the right to, but it doesn't mean we should. Here's my opinion on killing animals, if you're going to kill the animal you better use every damn part of it. You use the meat for food, the skin for something, the bones for something, and if you can you better use the sinew as well. You also better have had respect for the animal. Had you mentioned your religion to me, I'd have known that. As you didn't, it was a little hard for me to guess really, wasn't it? Even if you do believe in creation, God put us above all the other animals. We have the right to do what we want to them. Why? Animals are beneath us. No matter what your beliefs are, this is a truth. Oh really? What makes you such a prodigy that you can state such things without a doubt? We're smarter than many animals, no doubt about that, but I'm not sure if intelligence is all there is to superiority...I'd like to think that there's a certain equivalence to the world. I'm saying that it's just rude to tag on things like "No matter what your beliefs are, this is true." That makes it sound...factual. Give it an opinionated tinge, perhaps? *insert "I think" in appropriate place*
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:11 pm
the thing that gets me is people who say they vegetarians eat fish. aren't fish meat?
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:11 pm
Jaft Sanzoskitsune .... we HAVE been saying that, just in a different way. I have said time and again that taking meat out of a diet is a choice these people make. Xikrai's was better. Lol. well poo on you LOL
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:11 pm
Sanzoskitsune Ascott Sanzoskitsune Ascott Sanzoskitsune I'm sorry but this logic is not working for me. People are animals, period. They are not "people" first then animals they are animals end of story. Ah! Caught in a web of deceit! You're Catholic. You follow the teachings of the bible. "God made man in his own image", didn't he? He made us seperate from and above them. How do you reconcile these two beliefs of yours? First, yes I'm Catholic. Second, no I do not follow the teachings of the Bible but thats for another discussion. Yes he supposedly made us above them but that doesn't mean we're supposed to ABUSE them. We are supposed to take care of them. To some people that means not eating them. I still stand by the idea that People=animal You don't follow the teachings of the bible? Then you're not a Catholic. God tells you specifically that we are above other animals. What more information do you need exactly? Don't tell me what religion I am, I know what religion I am and you have NO right to tell me what I follow and what I don't follow. I never ASKED you for information I am simply stating reasons that vegetarians are vegetarians, I never said I was one. Stop making assumptions. Catholics follow the teaching of the bible. That's what Catholicism is about. You don't. You're not part of that religion. It's as simple as that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:12 pm
Viral C the thing that gets me is people who say they vegetarians eat fish. aren't fish meat? Yeah those aren't vegetarians, they're pesticarians or something like that >.> <.< I can't remember the name! Some "vegetarians" just aren't very well informed and just call themselves that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:12 pm
The-Mut-Cat I don't react well to some vegetarians... I, myself, beleive that all animals and people are equal... Therefore, we are all game on the scale of the food-chain. There was a girl I knew (not very bright, imo) who became vegetarian because of the videos and stuff she saw online... A lot of them made by the PETA (never liked them)... So I have for a while associated vegetarianism (veganism, especially...) with her... an instant aversion to the idea >_< I'd need more of an explaination on the health-reasons... :/ you can get the same balance of benefits and complications no matter which diet you choose... Cept the "raw foods" diet... that's just funny! Yeah, that's my stance, more or less.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:12 pm
Ascott Ah, you're a witch. Oh dear. Carry on. ... Why do I not like your tone?
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:13 pm
After I posted my post, I did see that everyone else was saying what I said. Mine was just kinda condensed.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:13 pm
Ascott Sanzoskitsune Ascott Sanzoskitsune Ascott Sanzoskitsune I'm sorry but this logic is not working for me. People are animals, period. They are not "people" first then animals they are animals end of story. Ah! Caught in a web of deceit! You're Catholic. You follow the teachings of the bible. "God made man in his own image", didn't he? He made us seperate from and above them. How do you reconcile these two beliefs of yours? First, yes I'm Catholic. Second, no I do not follow the teachings of the Bible but thats for another discussion. Yes he supposedly made us above them but that doesn't mean we're supposed to ABUSE them. We are supposed to take care of them. To some people that means not eating them. I still stand by the idea that People=animal You don't follow the teachings of the bible? Then you're not a Catholic. God tells you specifically that we are above other animals. What more information do you need exactly? Don't tell me what religion I am, I know what religion I am and you have NO right to tell me what I follow and what I don't follow. I never ASKED you for information I am simply stating reasons that vegetarians are vegetarians, I never said I was one. Stop making assumptions. Catholics follow the teaching of the bible. That's what Catholicism is about. You don't. You're not part of that religion. It's as simple as that. STOP TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT RELIGION I AM! I may not follow the Bible but I follow a lot of the Catholic practices and THAT'S what counts more than anything.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:13 pm
Ascott Ah, you're a witch. Oh dear. Carry on. I don't know what's meant by this statement, but it honestly seems to be one stating you have a problem with witches.... but that doesn't matter right now. You never answered my question. Does "being above animals" give us the right to be cruel to them and beat them to near death. Does it give people the right to be cruel to animals? What if other animals were cruel to people? people are also animals, and using that logic animals also have the right to be cruel to us.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:14 pm
Indigo Project Ascott Ah, you're a witch. Oh dear. Carry on. ... Why do I not like your tone? Because he didn't comment on the rest of her post and zeroed in on that?
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:14 pm
Indigo Project Ascott Ah, you're a witch. Oh dear. Carry on. ... Why do I not like your tone? You're unnecesarily paranoid ^_^
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:15 pm
Ascott Ah, you're a witch. Oh dear. Carry on. i can't help but sense an air of sarcasm/rudeness there, man. neutral um... let's try to stay away from things that'll make you sound like an a**... cot. xd ok you get what i mean. i know you're just genuinely curious but with that must come an open mind to all the answers given, otherwise you're not just curious.. you're curious as to how to prove yourself right. if that made any sense. by the way thanks for ignoring what i said neutral
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