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 Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:07 pm
Next Dollar After M-mann I'm on Summer break now. So I'm free for a loooooong time. oh you kids and your "school" I can post online whenever the hell I feel like it cool Gah I'll kill you!
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:35 pm
Gracchvs why is everyone all "peaceful would be good though [insert random qualification here]" the fact is, yes it would be good, but it isnt a question of maybe. it is a fact that the ruling classes will try to destroy the revolution, so we will have to use force! This guy I like. Revolution has tobe swift, surgical and forceful. There can't be any delay or hesitation or the revolution will get crushed and it's ideals labeled "Radical." Victory is validation enough for the actions involved.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:41 pm
Canas Wainwright Gracchvs why is everyone all "peaceful would be good though [insert random qualification here]" the fact is, yes it would be good, but it isnt a question of maybe. it is a fact that the ruling classes will try to destroy the revolution, so we will have to use force! This guy I like. Revolution has tobe swift, surgical and forceful. There can't be any delay or hesitation or the revolution will get crushed and it's ideals labeled "Radical." Victory is validation enough for the actions involved. I agree most definitly.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:31 pm
now these are some of the people we need here...
thia may change due to future words and deeds...
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:13 pm
It seems painfully obvious to me that we can't use the system to our advantage because the system has been fixed to prevent us from doing just that.
The notion of subtle conversion is foolhardy at best seeing as how Capitalist oriented governments have been working on measures to surpress communism since the 20's.
Revolution is the only answer.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:38 am
Canas Wainwright It seems painfully obvious to me that we can't use the system to our advantage because the system has been fixed to prevent us from doing just that. The notion of subtle conversion is foolhardy at best seeing as how Capitalist oriented governments have been working on measures to surpress communism since the 20's. Revolution is the only answer. Yes, but there needs to be a uniting factor to get people all riled up and ready for a revolution. In the US's current state, most people don't seem too upset over things. The Russians had Czar Nicolas, the Cubans had Batista, in the US and Western Europe there really isn't anything for the majority to get worked up over.
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:07 pm
what is needed is class struggle. a constant policy of class struggle and communist propaganda and agitation.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:47 am
I don't like violence and such. Sadly, history has proven a revolution is needed sometimes. I prefer watching the Bourgeoisie going down by their own mistakes, so the Proletarians can take over, but I think that never will happen on it's own. People have to fight for theirselfs in this world.
A swift revolution is needed. No delays, because the revolution will be crashed then.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:00 am
Revolutions aren't necissarily violent. Let me explain, in the 1918 October Revolution it was a mass strike and bosses were thrown into the streets. But from reading biographies of Lenin, you find that they had guns mostly for show. The real bloodshed and death's came not from the Bolshiviks, but from the reactionaries who fought against them. They new leaders acted accordingly with Trotsky and the Red Army. Death came not from revolution, but from civil war.
It's were you draw the difference, actually, if it was a violent revolution or a bloody civil war...
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:06 am
Yeah I know whee . but we're talking about Russian Revolution now. Sadly enough, revolutions are violent a lot while it's not necissary.
Russian Revolution was a bloody civil war. The reactionaries in Russia just sucked. It was basicly the same as it was in 1905.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:31 pm
hey lucky, what country you from?
and to both takai, and lucky, a violent revolution, in the communist sence, is not violent in the guns and killing sence, but it is violent in the sence that it is using force. may be economic or physical. but it is force. in that defenition, then october was violent.
and no, october was not strikes, that was february.
obctober was the red guards taking key spots in the city. i think there were like 8 deaths...
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:24 am
The Netherlands whee .
The meaning of the February Revolution was a bloodless revolution to abdict Nicholas II. There was only little violence in February. In October, there sure was force. Actualy, the meaning of the whole Russian Revolution was a bloodless revolution, but violence was allowed to be used if it was necissary.
Yep, and the shot of the cruiser Aurora.
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:32 am
Gracchvs hey lucky, what country you from? and to both takai, and lucky, a violent revolution, in the communist sence, is not violent in the guns and killing sence, but it is violent in the sence that it is using force. may be economic or physical. but it is force. in that defenition, then october was violent. and no, october was not strikes, that was february. obctober was the red guards taking key spots in the city. i think there were like 8 deaths... And it was 1917...
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:36 am
Read over that xd . But true, it was a year before WW1 ended.
Also, there were three Revolutions(need to keep that in mind): 1905-1906, 1917 and 1918-1921.
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:50 am
Eh, don't mind me, I'm just a Russian history freak who just happens to be a radical leftist...
Although in Russia radical beliefs were gaining prevalence for years, especially after the 1865 Emancipation of the Serfs. Or at least that's the impression I've been getting from literature of that general time period.
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