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 Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:46 pm
Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 Wow, this thread has grown like an American when a even larger burger comes out. I'm an atheist but I believe in reincarnation up until a certain point in soul progression when the souls color changes from yellow to blue. Well, it's not actually the souls color, it's a projection from a bunch of small lights connected to a robot in another dimension that is the soul. LOL But my belief DOES have scientific ground. A psychologist was hypnotizing people to find out about the afterlife and they stumbled upon a key word. The word was "group", apparently souls hang out in groups. He used this keyword to find out more about the afterlife by hypnotizing other people. They also all agree with the facts that he may provide from other cases too. I've just mixed those belifs with my scientific knowledge of physics(which isn't like that stupid mythology-like theory those morons(quantum physicist) have) and got a result that makes sense. I've just told you part of my understanding of the afterlife. I think the book is called "The journey of the souls" and it has a sequel. Oh hey, I found an online copy of the book, here's the link(The amount of pages you can see is limit sadly, if you want to read more you could try buying the book): Journey of the souls smile Ahah...hah...ha...uh. Wait, you were serious? eek
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:49 pm
The Iron Magus Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 Wow, this thread has grown like an American when a even larger burger comes out. I'm an atheist but I believe in reincarnation up until a certain point in soul progression when the souls color changes from yellow to blue. Well, it's not actually the souls color, it's a projection from a bunch of small lights connected to a robot in another dimension that is the soul. LOL But my belief DOES have scientific ground. A psychologist was hypnotizing people to find out about the afterlife and they stumbled upon a key word. The word was "group", apparently souls hang out in groups. He used this keyword to find out more about the afterlife by hypnotizing other people. They also all agree with the facts that he may provide from other cases too. I've just mixed those belifs with my scientific knowledge of physics(which isn't like that stupid mythology-like theory those morons(quantum physicist) have) and got a result that makes sense. I've just told you part of my understanding of the afterlife. I think the book is called "The journey of the souls" and it has a sequel. Oh hey, I found an online copy of the book, here's the link(The amount of pages you can see is limit sadly, if you want to read more you could try buying the book): Journey of the souls smile Ahah...hah...ha...uh. Wait, you were serious? eek Yeah...
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:09 pm
Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 Wow, this thread has grown like an American when a even larger burger comes out. I'm an atheist but I believe in reincarnation up until a certain point in soul progression when the souls color changes from yellow to blue. Well, it's not actually the souls color, it's a projection from a bunch of small lights connected to a robot in another dimension that is the soul. LOL But my belief DOES have scientific ground. A psychologist was hypnotizing people to find out about the afterlife and they stumbled upon a key word. The word was "group", apparently souls hang out in groups. He used this keyword to find out more about the afterlife by hypnotizing other people. They also all agree with the facts that he may provide from other cases too. I've just mixed those belifs with my scientific knowledge of physics(which isn't like that stupid mythology-like theory those morons(quantum physicist) have) and got a result that makes sense. I've just told you part of my understanding of the afterlife. I think the book is called "The journey of the souls" and it has a sequel. Oh hey, I found an online copy of the book, here's the link(The amount of pages you can see is limit sadly, if you want to read more you could try buying the book): Journey of the souls smile Ahah...hah...ha...uh. Wait, you were serious? eek Yeah... Wow. That's pretty crazy.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:11 pm
The Iron Magus Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 The Iron Magus Laff70 Wow, this thread has grown like an American when a even larger burger comes out. I'm an atheist but I believe in reincarnation up until a certain point in soul progression when the souls color changes from yellow to blue. Well, it's not actually the souls color, it's a projection from a bunch of small lights connected to a robot in another dimension that is the soul. LOL But my belief DOES have scientific ground. A psychologist was hypnotizing people to find out about the afterlife and they stumbled upon a key word. The word was "group", apparently souls hang out in groups. He used this keyword to find out more about the afterlife by hypnotizing other people. They also all agree with the facts that he may provide from other cases too. I've just mixed those belifs with my scientific knowledge of physics(which isn't like that stupid mythology-like theory those morons(quantum physicist) have) and got a result that makes sense. I've just told you part of my understanding of the afterlife. I think the book is called "The journey of the souls" and it has a sequel. Oh hey, I found an online copy of the book, here's the link(The amount of pages you can see is limit sadly, if you want to read more you could try buying the book): Journey of the souls smile Ahah...hah...ha...uh. Wait, you were serious? eek Yeah... Wow. That's pretty crazy. What is crazy??? Me???
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:36 pm
That's a psychologist's book.
Psychology isn't a real science.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:42 pm
Zi's right. Try something quantifiable instead.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:00 pm
I'm glad you agree, Ilaf, dear.
I am a scientist. I do actual research and everything. Hell, NASA gives me money for my research.
I don't have a PhD (yet!), but I can tel you the social sciences cannot provide any hard scientific evidence. At all. They can give statistics--but those aren't considered scientific fact.
Even the psychology world doesn't put any stock into hypnotism any more. There's too much of a chance that suggestion from the hypnotist will come into play and muck it up.
So your belief has no scientific ground--which is generally how belief systems work. You can't believe in something that's a fact. It's either real or it isn't. With a god, fairies, or this blue soul belief--there's a grey area between fact or fiction. This is the definition of a belief.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:38 pm
Not you, just some of your ideas. Yeata Zi That's a psychologist's book. Psychology isn't a real science. I'd disagree with you on that. Psychology is a science. However... Yeata Zi I'm glad you agree, Ilaf, dear. I am a scientist. I do actual research and everything. Hell, NASA gives me money for my research. I don't have a PhD (yet!), but I can tel you the social sciences cannot provide any hard scientific evidence. At all. They can give statistics--but those aren't considered scientific fact. Even the psychology world doesn't put any stock into hypnotism any more. There's too much of a chance that suggestion from the hypnotist will come into play and muck it up. So your belief has no scientific ground--which is generally how belief systems work. You can't believe in something that's a fact. It's either real or it isn't. With a god, fairies, or this blue soul belief--there's a grey area between fact or fiction. This is the definition of a belief. You're definitely right about hypnotism. It's an interesting phenomenon, but ultimately unreliable. The Satanic ritual abuse panic was just one of the many documented cases in which hypnotism dug up all sorts of things that turned out to be false. I'd disagree with your definition of "belief," though. A belief is something subjective. Gods, fairies, or blue souls--those all either exist, or they don't. We might have a hard time proving their existence one way or another, but they either exist or they don't--there's no gray area. On the other hand, you have beliefs, like "I believe all children have the right to an education," or "I believe in the philosophy of humanism." These are things that aren't concerned with the nature of the universe, so there's a lot more "grey area" to them.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:01 pm
The Iron Magus Not you, just some of your ideas. Yeata Zi That's a psychologist's book. Psychology isn't a real science. I'd disagree with you on that. Psychology is a science. However... Yeata Zi I'm glad you agree, Ilaf, dear. I am a scientist. I do actual research and everything. Hell, NASA gives me money for my research. I don't have a PhD (yet!), but I can tel you the social sciences cannot provide any hard scientific evidence. At all. They can give statistics--but those aren't considered scientific fact. Even the psychology world doesn't put any stock into hypnotism any more. There's too much of a chance that suggestion from the hypnotist will come into play and muck it up. So your belief has no scientific ground--which is generally how belief systems work. You can't believe in something that's a fact. It's either real or it isn't. With a god, fairies, or this blue soul belief--there's a grey area between fact or fiction. This is the definition of a belief. You're definitely right about hypnotism. It's an interesting phenomenon, but ultimately unreliable. The Satanic ritual abuse panic was just one of the many documented cases in which hypnotism dug up all sorts of things that turned out to be false. I'd disagree with your definition of "belief," though. A belief is something subjective. Gods, fairies, or blue souls--those all either exist, or they don't. We might have a hard time proving their existence one way or another, but they either exist or they don't--there's no gray area. On the other hand, you have beliefs, like "I believe all children have the right to an education," or "I believe in the philosophy of humanism." These are things that aren't concerned with the nature of the universe, so there's a lot more "grey area" to them. hmm..... well he also asked multiple of his clients the same questions to verify the data.Example(not from the book, this is a randomly generated question): --------In 5 separate sessions the man asked the 5 --------different people with no form of communication with --------each other and with out revealing any data from --------previous sessions to the people he's talking to the --------same question to which they all responded the --------same. With all the answers being the same though worded differently but still describing the same things I doubt this is a coincidence. The book convinced me so that is what I believe in. Well...I put the info in it through my mind trying to figure everything out and when I did figure how it's all possible with my understanding of physics I made that my belief. Also I don't think this is like the SRA.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:03 pm
Yeata Zi I'm glad you agree, Ilaf, dear. I am a scientist. I do actual research and everything. Hell, NASA gives me money for my research. I don't have a PhD (yet!), but I can tel you the social sciences cannot provide any hard scientific evidence. At all. They can give statistics--but those aren't considered scientific fact. Even the psychology world doesn't put any stock into hypnotism any more. There's too much of a chance that suggestion from the hypnotist will come into play and muck it up. So your belief has no scientific ground--which is generally how belief systems work. You can't believe in something that's a fact. It's either real or it isn't. With a god, fairies, or this blue soul belief--there's a grey area between fact or fiction. This is the definition of a belief. What type of scientist are you. I hope you aren't a rocket scientist because rockets are really stupid.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:54 pm
Laff70 hmm..... well he also asked multiple of his clients the same questions to verify the data.Example(not from the book, this is a randomly generated question): --------In 5 separate sessions the man asked the 5 --------different people with no form of communication with --------each other and with out revealing any data from --------previous sessions to the people he's talking to the --------same question to which they all responded the --------same. With all the answers being the same though worded differently but still describing the same things I doubt this is a coincidence. The book convinced me so that is what I believe in. Well...I put the info in it through my mind trying to figure everything out and when I did figure how it's all possible with my understanding of physics I made that my belief. Also I don't think this is like the SRA. That's not a randomly generated question. That's not even a question. And five people is hardly statistically significant. Aside from that, there are multiple reasons why five different people might answer a question in a vaguely similar way. Not the least of which the fact that the person performing the experiments (and you) want them to be vaguely similar. It doesn't mean his theory is true. You should really try to be more skeptical. It sounds like you've been taken in by a quack. Of course you don't think that this is like SRA. Because you believe in the stuff from the book, while you (presumably) don't believe in SRA. But it sounds similar to it, or to other forms of false memory syndrome.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:55 pm
Laff70 Yeata Zi I'm glad you agree, Ilaf, dear. I am a scientist. I do actual research and everything. Hell, NASA gives me money for my research. I don't have a PhD (yet!), but I can tel you the social sciences cannot provide any hard scientific evidence. At all. They can give statistics--but those aren't considered scientific fact. Even the psychology world doesn't put any stock into hypnotism any more. There's too much of a chance that suggestion from the hypnotist will come into play and muck it up. So your belief has no scientific ground--which is generally how belief systems work. You can't believe in something that's a fact. It's either real or it isn't. With a god, fairies, or this blue soul belief--there's a grey area between fact or fiction. This is the definition of a belief. What type of scientist are you. I hope you aren't a rocket scientist because rockets are really stupid. I'm a biochemist. I work on disease. Currently, I'm working on diabetes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:58 pm
Eh. My argument on belief is usually used to debunk those a** holes who say they believe or don't believe in evolution. There is no believing in evolution. You either except it is a thing that happens, or you ignore it.
It's like not believing in gravity.... or DNA.
Oh, and edit:
Sorry if offend anyone with that. You're not a** holes. I still love you. We just should never talk about evolution together, deal?
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:12 pm
The Iron Magus Laff70 hmm..... well he also asked multiple of his clients the same questions to verify the data.Example(not from the book, this is a randomly generated question): --------In 5 separate sessions the man asked the 5 --------different people with no form of communication with --------each other and with out revealing any data from --------previous sessions to the people he's talking to the --------same question to which they all responded the --------same. With all the answers being the same though worded differently but still describing the same things I doubt this is a coincidence. The book convinced me so that is what I believe in. Well...I put the info in it through my mind trying to figure everything out and when I did figure how it's all possible with my understanding of physics I made that my belief. Also I don't think this is like the SRA. That's not a randomly generated question. That's not even a question. And five people is hardly statistically significant. Aside from that, there are multiple reasons why five different people might answer a question in a vaguely similar way. Not the least of which the fact that the person performing the experiments (and you) want them to be vaguely similar. It doesn't mean his theory is true. You should really try to be more skeptical. It sounds like you've been taken in by a quack. Of course you don't think that this is like SRA. Because you believe in the stuff from the book, while you (presumably) don't believe in SRA. But it sounds similar to it, or to other forms of false memory syndrome. ME not skeptical??? I came up with an alternate theory about mostly everything in quantum physics. Don't you think I'd evaluate this theory(which I did extensively) before believing in it??? I know how dimensions interact with each other. I know what the structural differences of the matter in different dimensions are. I've figured out possible structure of the multiverse(if there is one) and what splits a universe apart into two separate universes. I even know the make up of electrons!!! I AM SKEPTICAL!!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:17 pm
Ehhhh... have you gotten any papers on your physics theories published in a peer reviewed journal?
Because if not--I'm leaning towards thinking your theories are crackpot.
Get some stuff published in SCIENCE or NATURE and turn the physics world up on it's head. Until that point--you totally can't convince me, a non-physicist, that any of your "theories" hold any weight at all.
Not trying to be mean, but theoretical physics is complicated, and a subject that people with PhDs spend thier entire careers on.
Also.... what's the make up of electrons? I've taken a bunch of quantum physics/physical chemistry classes and I am interested to hear what you think they are composed of.
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