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 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:32 am
Recent posts have me thinking of the whole quaker mentality. The one where if it feels good, it's BAD! Because God doesn't want you to feel good about anything! If people start going that far with it, I just refer them to Pope Innocent IV and call it a day.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:01 am
Zen Marie Balthazar Recent posts have me thinking of the whole quaker mentality. The one where if it feels good, it's BAD! Because God doesn't want you to feel good about anything! If people start going that far with it, I just refer them to Pope Innocent IV and call it a day. Want to avoid that mindset. Don't want to go to the other extreme "if it feels good it's right" either.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:56 am
Zen Marie Balthazar Recent posts have me thinking of the whole quaker mentality. The one where if it feels good, it's BAD! Because God doesn't want you to feel good about anything! If people start going that far with it, I just refer them to Pope Innocent IV and call it a day. Too much of a good thing is bad, too little of a good thing and something is missing. In all things, balance is key.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:26 am
Had a flashback today of some of my "sex education" growing up. While my parents taught me the basic mechanics when I was like 5-6, I really got the heavy dose of this insanity when I was 11, after my Dad got injured and I was in my mom's care.
I remember some girls about 13-15 talking to me when I was 11 and I was waiting in the Doctors office with my Mom. My mom got very upset with me talking with these girls and told me not to talk to them and that they were the "wrong kind of girls". I don't know what she meant by that but I was very hurt since it seemed like girls were normally repulsed by me.
I remember when I told my mom about having my first wet dream and being confused and scared since it wasn't urine and that was the only thing I knew at the time that came out of my privates. I told her that I was having a dream of some kind and then I started thinking about this girl I had a crush on. She gave me a sad look and said that I was going to stop loving her soon.
I remember my Mom telling me about how horrible men were and that the only thing they cared about was sex. That my dad was no different and was probably the worst of them all. I remember feeling shame for being a guy and feeling ashamed when I started having any sort of sexual feelings.
I know that most of this was just my mom's insanity taking root. While I understand that she cared about me and was looking out for me it messed up my outlook for quite a while especially after her passing since she had drilled a distrust of male role models into me.
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:02 pm
rmcdra Had a flashback today of some of my "sex education" growing up. While my parents taught me the basic mechanics when I was like 5-6, I really got the heavy dose of this insanity when I was 11, after my Dad got injured and I was in my mom's care. I remember some girls about 13-15 talking to me when I was 11 and I was waiting in the Doctors office with my Mom. My mom got very upset with me talking with these girls and told me not to talk to them and that they were the "wrong kind of girls". I don't know what she meant by that but I was very hurt since it seemed like girls were normally repulsed by me. I remember when I told my mom about having my first wet dream and being confused and scared since it wasn't urine and that was the only thing I knew at the time that came out of my privates. I told her that I was having a dream of some kind and then I started thinking about this girl I had a crush on. She gave me a sad look and said that I was going to stop loving her soon. I remember my Mom telling me about how horrible men were and that the only thing they cared about was sex. That my dad was no different and was probably the worst of them all. I remember feeling shame for being a guy and feeling ashamed when I started having any sort of sexual feelings. I know that most of this was just my mom's insanity taking root. While I understand that she cared about me and was looking out for me it messed up my outlook for quite a while especially after her passing since she had drilled a distrust of male role models into me. reminds me of my mom & dad,my dad and Mom thought that most men are nothing but scum...only wanting in womens pants...my mom got upset..cause i said,women are no better...there is lustful men,and there is lustful women..clear fact,look in porn,...I see men who are nice,just as much as women,i see women just as mean as men..it balances out..yes i tend to hate towards men...but thats because i'm more around them(douche bags) Now i've seen some women just as bad..and i dislike them even more so.. Its pretty much like this,a Smooth Katana,Shines,not leaving any trace,of rust or anything,every thing shines. This is the nicer people,who really do try to be good people.. then there is the Katana,that is curved right,but has rust,dints in the blade,showing much of its problems..these are what i consider the people who are nice(but have a agenda) in mind,you can see them by there fruits
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:32 pm
rmcdra a distrust of male role models into me. Haven't I been a good role model for you?
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:46 pm
deadmanjay rmcdra a distrust of male role models into me. Haven't I been a good role model for you? 
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:52 pm
rmcdra deadmanjay rmcdra a distrust of male role models into me. Haven't I been a good role model for you? I thought so...
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:06 pm
to be honest, and I know my mother would rise out of her grave and slap me for saying so... and about 15 other people would.... I just don't care anymore. Both, genders are clinically insane in my opinion.
I declare, I shall never go on a date in my life and forever be single... well except for the part that is linked with God of course... razz
Ladies wait for hours outside malls and stores just to buy something on "sale" (the gas they wasted getting to the mall makes the sale useless...)
My dad and brothers yell at the tv when a ref makes a call they disagree with... (like the ref is going to hear them...)
Personally, I think they should lock everyone up inside an insane asylum...
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:20 pm
Southern_cross_nemesis to be honest, and I know my mother would rise out of her grave and slap me for saying so... and about 15 other people would.... I just don't care anymore. Both, genders are clinically insane in my opinion. I declare, I shall never go on a date in my life and forever be single... well except for the part that is linked with God of course... razz Ladies wait for hours outside malls and stores just to buy something on "sale" (the gas they wasted getting to the mall makes the sale useless...) My dad and brothers yell at the tv when a ref makes a call they disagree with... (like the ref is going to hear them...) Personally, I think they should lock everyone up inside an insane asylum... We're all mixed nuts XD
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:23 pm
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:00 pm
My problem with the sex talk and lack thereof in churches is that masturbation is skipped over completely. I know about what the bible say about sex, marriage and bestiality and such but never once have I seen anything about masturbation.
for most of my life up into the teenage years my only impressions of masturbation were A) it was something boys did B) that it was icky
when a friend of mine started discussing it in the middle of the cafeteria I just stood there like O.o and finally "girls can do that?"
this girl was rather *chough* promiscuous so I figured that it was something like sex that shouldn't be done before marriage and that if I did God would be mad at me for it. It took me years to get over that guilty feeling, and sometimes I still find myself pushing it away.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:45 pm
kiockalan My problem with the sex talk and lack thereof in churches is that masturbation is skipped over completely. I know about what the bible say about sex, marriage and bestiality and such but never once have I seen anything about masturbation. for most of my life up into the teenage years my only impressions of masturbation were A) it was something boys did B) that it was icky when a friend of mine started discussing it in the middle of the cafeteria I just stood there like O.o and finally "girls can do that?" this girl was rather *chough* promiscuous so I figured that it was something like sex that shouldn't be done before marriage and that if I did God would be mad at me for it. It took me years to get over that guilty feeling, and sometimes I still find myself pushing it away. The closest you will get to most discussion on masturbation will probably involve the Story of Onan. Which many pastors seem to use as masturbation is bad when it reality, it was Onan not impregnating his brothers wife that got him killed. So, its really ******** up when people take that story to mean, no touching yourselt.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:21 pm
kiockalan My problem with the sex talk and lack thereof in churches is that masturbation is skipped over completely. I know about what the bible say about sex, marriage and bestiality and such but never once have I seen anything about masturbation. for most of my life up into the teenage years my only impressions of masturbation were A) it was something boys did B) that it was icky when a friend of mine started discussing it in the middle of the cafeteria I just stood there like O.o and finally "girls can do that?" this girl was rather *chough* promiscuous so I figured that it was something like sex that shouldn't be done before marriage and that if I did God would be mad at me for it. It took me years to get over that guilty feeling, and sometimes I still find myself pushing it away. I am a guy and I still feel some guilt concerning masturbation due to upbringing so I can kinda relate. As DMJ brought up, the story of Onan is taken out of context to prohibit it, but it is about "pulling out", not masturbation. The closest you can get to a prohibition against masturbation is that sexual celibacy that is promoted in the New Testament. Catholics and Eastern Orthodoxy, still has this prohibition. Anglicans and Episcopalians tend to be a bit more lenient with this. The only reason I would ever say anything against masturbation is that one does risk sexual objectification of people but that's the risk in general with any non-committed sexual activity. Use your best judgment in regards to this. Don't feel out of place about not knowing that women can masturbate. There appears to be a lot of young women who don't know about this. My fiancee didn't know that women could until we got together.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:14 am
Southern_cross_nemesis to be honest, and I know my mother would rise out of her grave and slap me for saying so... and about 15 other people would.... I just don't care anymore. Both, genders are clinically insane in my opinion. I declare, I shall never go on a date in my life and forever be single... well except for the part that is linked with God of course... razz Ladies wait for hours outside malls and stores just to buy something on "sale" (the gas they wasted getting to the mall makes the sale useless...) My dad and brothers yell at the tv when a ref makes a call they disagree with... (like the ref is going to hear them...) Personally, I think they should lock everyone up inside an insane asylum... lies, paying the gas to drive 7 miles was worth it to save $90 on a pair of boots XD women are tough to date. i always had a hard time finding the personality type i liked in women so i dated mostly men. i knew i didnt want to be with someone who took longer getting ready than i do
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